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LOL...I could only take about 6 minutes of watching that yellling back and forth.

GG

Gotta convert the lost souls man! Gotta save 'em!

Amaya wrote:Gotta convert the lost souls man! Gotta save 'em!

Lets tag team. You save (or de save) them, and I'll roll while they are distracted. PROFIT!

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

generalgrog wrote:Unfortunately I didn't make it. It rained for most of it. Some of the videos are starting to trickle out onto youtube where you can see the athiest evangelicals picking on Christians that showed up.


GG

Why would Christians have attended a rally for Atheists?


You don't suppose it was to troll the unbelievers now, do you???

I was actually planning on going in "stealth mode". I was curious to see what people like dawkins had to say. I certainly had not planned on wearing the JESUS shirt like the evangelist above. Thats just like smearing yourself with honey and lying down on an ant hill.

GG

Let the Old Testament wrath begin!

Repent or die!

*zaps Vegas*

Angel whispers to God, "Um...big guy...you're supposed to offer forgiveness first."
God laughts, "Whatever brah, they're not Jews!"

Amaya wrote:Let the Old Testament wrath begin!

Repent or die!

*zaps Vegas*

Angel whispers to God, "Um...big guy...you're supposed to offer forgiveness first."
God laughts, "Whatever brah, they're not Jews!"

No school, like old school...wait, not Vegas!

What about Atlantic City?

Amaya wrote:What about Atlantic City?

I thought it had already been smote by Life.

Does this one have a open bar also?? If I lived closer I would be all over that.

What does any of this achieve, honestly?

You turn up for a rally saying you want equality, and layer the thing with a heavy dose of assumed superiority, and some people from a religion turn up and you yell at each for a bit. Everyone goes home convinced they have to keep fighting for the right to be left alone. Which makes no sense, if they'd never attended the rally no-one would have known they were atheist, or even thought to ask them the question.

Now, people from both groups getting together, and holding a rally for pluralism. That makes some damn sense.

Frazzled wrote:Corrected your typo.

Which is why these sorts of things are doomed to failure. There are no hot, crazy atheist girls, like there are hot, crazy hippies/socialists/evangelicals, so why would any guy ever turn up to one of these things? Only vocal atheist chicks I've met were shrill and extremely not hot. So the rallies would have to be complete fail.

sebster wrote:Which is why these sorts of things are doomed to failure. There are no hot, crazy atheist girls, like there are hot, crazy hippies/socialists/evangelicals, so why would any guy ever turn up to one of these things? Only vocal atheist chicks I've met were shrill and extremely not hot. So the rallies would have to be complete fail.

There are hot, crazy atheist chicks too. I think you see fewer of them just because you see fewer people in general gathering as atheists, per se.

Monica Belluci and Rose Byrne are both agnostics, and totally hot.

I believe Sebster meant "athiest girl" as "girl who goes to athiest rallies with a loadspeaker."

I would go if there was one in my city.

It's fun gathering with like-minded people and counter-trolling trolls.

Here in the UK, we don't have reason rallies, because 39% of the population identify as Atheist, compared to America's 9%. It's really a non-issue here.

Melissia wrote:If we have theistic rallies, it only makes sense that we'd have atheistic ones.

Aiight. Let's take that one step further then.

Let's organise a White Pride parade. See how far that goes...

Scrabb wrote:I believe Sebster meant "athiest girl" as "girl who goes to athiest rallies with a loadspeaker."

Oof. Any chick willing to go to a rally and shriek about imaginary sky wizards into a megaphone, pro or con, is a nonstarter for me.

Mannahnin wrote:There are hot, crazy atheist chicks too. I think you see fewer of them just because you see fewer people in general gathering as atheists, per se.

Oh, there's hot women of all kinds. And there's crazy in everything, I'm certain atheism isn't exempted. And in most cases crazy and politically active are about the worst things you can find in a person, so much so that they're not worth it, no matter how hot they are.

But there's a special kind of girl that is crazy in the perfect way, that you find at some kinds of rallies. If you've been to a rally and found this kind of girl then you'll know what I'm talking about (and if you've been to an environmental rally you most definitely will have found this kind of girl). And trust me when I say that kind of girl is why a whole lot of the guys attend these things. They may not admit, not even to themselves, but seriously, they aren't there because there's a really pressing need to burn an effigy of the minister for youth affairs.


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H.B.M.C. wrote:Aiight. Let's take that one step further then.

Let's organise a White Pride parade. See how far that goes...

So by one step further you mean 'let's take a great big leap into the land of non sequitur'. Seriously, what in the feth does an atheism rally have to do with white pride?

sebster wrote:So by one step further you mean 'let's take a great big leap into the land of non sequitur'. Seriously, what in the feth does an atheism rally have to do with white pride?

Really not the point I was making. Let me try and explain:

Mel said that if there can be religious parades, why not a specifically non-religious one? To me, that's a perfectly legitimate thing to say, and I can't disagree with her. But I wonder what folks would say if you applied that to race. We do have black pride parades, so why not a white pride parade? Where's the 'line', so to speak, when being proud of and/or wanting to support something in 'parade format' becomes incorrect or inappropriate?

[EDIT]: Oh, and this would be tangential, not non sequitur. Just FYI.

sebster wrote:
...Which is why these sorts of things are doomed to failure. There are no hot, crazy atheist girls, like there are hot, crazy hippies/socialists/evangelicals, so why would any guy ever turn up to one of these things? Only vocal atheist chicks I've met were shrill and extremely not hot. So the rallies would have to be complete fail.

Bitches be strident?

generalgrog wrote:I certainly had not planned on wearing the JESUS shirt like the evangelist above. Thats just like smearing yourself with honey and lying down on an ant hill.

GG

Wearing the jesus shirt aaaand arguing with the attendees, that's more akin to jumping up and down on the anthill repeatedly and then bleating because you got bitten. It was trolling.

Ouze wrote:Monica Belluci and Rose Byrne are both agnostics, and totally hot.

Agnostics aren't atheists. They are just fence sitters. Sorry, no Belluci for you.


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MeanGreenStompa wrote:

generalgrog wrote:I certainly had not planned on wearing the JESUS shirt like the evangelist above. Thats just like smearing yourself with honey and lying down on an ant hill.

GG

Wearing the jesus shirt aaaand arguing with the attendees, that's more akin to jumping up and down on the anthill repeatedly and then bleating because you got bitten. It was trolling.

So? Welcome to free speech 101.

Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences.

Unfortunately some people seem to think freedom of speech means exactly that - the freedom to say whatever the hell they like without any repercussions.

Frazzled wrote:

Ouze wrote:Monica Belluci and Rose Byrne are both agnostics, and totally hot.

Agnostics aren't atheists. They are just fence sitters. Sorry, no Belluci for you.

They are, actually.

I daresay it's the other way around. Let me explainoose.

I am agnostic about God(s) in the same way I am agnostic about the Easter Bunny. I can't scientifically disprove the Easter Bunny, or God, but I live my life with the 99.9% estimate that He/She/It is not there, until such time as new evidence is revealed, like a monster rabbit emerging from behind me as I type this and pushing my face into the keyeajfelkajfkleahgke;alwfjkle;ajgljealkfhlkewahgoiaehroighealfjeklwfjlajgkleawglawehgoiaefkfa

fluffstalker wrote:I daresay it's the other way around. Let me explainoose.

I am agnostic about God(s) in the same way I am agnostic about the Easter Bunny. I can't scientifically disprove the Easter Bunny, or God, but I live my life with the 99.9% estimate that He/She/It is not there, until such time as new evidence is revealed, like a monster rabbit emerging from behind me as I type this and pushing my face into the keyeajfelkajfkleahgke;alwfjkle;ajgljealkfhlkewahgoiaehroighealfjeklwfjlajgkleawglawehgoiaefkfa

Yes. You're an atheist. The vast majority of atheists would start believing in deities if empirical evidence that they existed were actually to be discovered.

You do not believe in deities. Saying, "Well, I can't prove they don't exist," doesn't make that any less true, it simply means you refrain from asserting they do not exist. "Strong" atheism vs. "weak" atheism.

Well I was more responding to the post by Frazzled, but yes, you are correct, and I refer to myself as an atheist as well, it's easier than saying 99% agnostic. Also I have no problem asserting the chance that a deity may or not exist, I just try to avoid statements like, I don't believe in God, or God absolutely doesn't exist, because it's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of insufficient evidence. I just say, I find the idea of a deity unlikely in the extreme.

It may sound overly nitpicky but when it comes to theists they may pick up on anything and accuse you of being just as dogmatic as they are if you don't use the correct terms.

fluffstalker wrote:Well I was more responding to the post by Frazzled, but yes, you are correct, and I refer to myself as an atheist as well, it's easier than saying 99% agnostic. Also I have no problem asserting the chance that a deity may or not exist, I just try to avoid statements like, I don't believe in God, or God absolutely doesn't exist, because it's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of insufficient evidence. I just say, I find the idea of a deity unlikely in the extreme.

It may sound overly nitpicky but when it comes to theists they may pick up on anything and accuse you of being just as dogmatic as they are if you don't use the correct terms.

Of course. Theists have an easier time of things if they can frame atheists as actively denying their god rather than simply not believing in gods.

Agnosticism is atheism, provided we define atheism as it should be defined - lack of belief in supernatural deities.

Seaward wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Ouze wrote:Monica Belluci and Rose Byrne are both agnostics, and totally hot.

Agnostics aren't atheists. They are just fence sitters. Sorry, no Belluci for you.

They are, actually.

He's right like Frazz, I'm agnostic, I accept that there might be a God, I just doubt there is, and ill happily change my mind if I see any good reason to.

Hardly makes me a fence sitter does it? That's like implying that agnostics think a Christian God is as likely as No God.