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I need my soulblight!

So get within 24" of you'r target but not the frog seems to work for everyone else. Even if he is in the target unit you can still do that.

Maybe. I only play Lizzies at tournaments and my record against them is 1 win 6 loss. I hate that book with all my heart. One time I played lizards all three games... Got dead last.

Anywho back on topic I think EMpire needs more playtesting before it is on the voting list

WAAC players will ruin you'r fun no matter what they play so stop picking on ma army

Johnny-Crass wrote:.

Anywho back on topic I think EMpire needs more playtesting before it is on the voting list

I agree. Maybe I'll have to ask this question again in a few months to see if attitudes changed any.

I just noticed that every 8th Ed Army Book is 96 pages except for O&G (the initial 8th Ed one). Wonder if that's a policy now or something...

HoverBoy wrote:WAAC players will ruin you'r fun no matter what they play so stop picking on ma army

I just hate cupped hands with a passion.

Never used 'em

HoverBoy wrote:Never used 'em

I have. They are hilarious.

I would have to say the new ogres are the best improvement over its old counterpart. Great list of options that are mostly viable. Lots of flavor and variety in the army that suits their character.

Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

HoverBoy wrote:Never used 'em

I have. They are hilarious.

Oh yeah, great for trolling TK and VC players.

"Oh look, I have a miscast. Now your hierophant/general has it. And he rolled snake eyes for the effect. Bye bye."

What can I say? I'm kinda evil.

Also, I get to roll the miscast before I use it.

Crazy_Carnifex wrote:What can I say? I'm kinda evil.

Also, I get to roll the miscast before I use it.

Oh really? I thought you shifted it before resolving the miscast.
Huh, I should really reread the arcane items section in my LM army book. Its a bit neglected methinks.

It's in the FAQ. Its fun, as there are one or two results that slann can take, allowing you to save it for the really bad results.

Only if you have throne up too

Well does throne counter Cupped as you ignore it on a 2+ or since you choose the stacking you bounce it first?

The FAQ says – the player who's turn it is decides the sequence (insert evil laughter).

Stupid Lizard book

More like stupid FAQ before it was quite clear thrones happens before rolling the miscast hands after. So you could never choose.
But noooo, the guys at GW just got up one morning and thought hey WoC and Skaven have damaging spells that can be cast into combat lets give another old book some stupid uberpower it was never intended to have, HERP DERP!!!1!

I don't really see how the Skaven book is OVERpowered. Sure, they're powerful, but playing them is like riding a 2 wheeler for the first time, you're gonna fall a couple times. They're not some giant tri-wheeled hog with 4 different machine guns, wheels made out of razor blades, and an exhaust pipe that shoots fire.

I didn't say that but i do say casting 13th into combat is way wrong.

HoverBoy wrote:I didn't say that but i do say casting 13th into combat is way wrong.

Not as bad as miscasting, altering the results and putting the worst result on my General.

Which is not how it was mean't to be for either army IMO.

LordTyphus wrote:I don't really see how the Skaven book is OVERpowered. Sure, they're powerful, but playing them is like riding a 2 wheeler for the first time, you're gonna fall a couple times. They're not some giant tri-wheeled hog with 4 different machine guns, wheels made out of razor blades, and an exhaust pipe that shoots fire.

Considering they used to be worse in 7th (All hits with the ratling gun autohit *shiver*)

Not to mention they have the cheapest, most effective horde unit in the game, one of the most powerful monsters ingame, not to mention a vast number of artillery that can provide a skaven gunline, one of the most boring armies to face. So not only is it a painful fight, it's likely to be very boring.

LordTyphus wrote:I don't really see how the Skaven book is OVERpowered. Sure, they're powerful, but playing them is like riding a 2 wheeler for the first time, you're gonna fall a couple times. They're not some giant tri-wheeled hog with 4 different machine guns, wheels made out of razor blades, and an exhaust pipe that shoots fire.

They do have that-the doom wheel. And if you don't think they aren't too powerful, you haven't faced someone running a bell with seer, skalm, an engineer with a doom rocket (use math, it's busted and it works), a Hellpit and two Doomwheels, plaguemonks with a priest/furnace, censor bearers, and hordes of clanrats. I have a friend who runs that list and he wins 99% of the time with it. He's done tournaments too-he takes first or second at every tournament he goes to. Rats are sick. A new player, knowing just the rules, should be able to win with that list. Not many armies can say the same.

LordTyphus wrote:They're not some giant tri-wheeled hog with 4 different machine guns, wheels made out of razor blades, and an exhaust pipe that shoots fire.

Perhaps not, but then what is?

marielle wrote:

LordTyphus wrote:They're not some giant tri-wheeled hog with 4 different machine guns, wheels made out of razor blades, and an exhaust pipe that shoots fire.

Perhaps not, but then what is?

Doomwheel?

Johnny-Crass wrote:

marielle wrote:

LordTyphus wrote:They're not some giant tri-wheeled hog with 4 different machine guns, wheels made out of razor blades, and an exhaust pipe that shoots fire.

Perhaps not, but then what is?

Doomwheel?

Yeah, they literally have what LordTyphus described.

Ok, my analogies get worse and worse as the night progress, I'll admit that.

But when playing with or against a Skaven army and you're/they're not being a "TFG" it tends to be pretty fun, a lot of Skaven units are a gamble (although some are less of one than others) and result in causalities on both sides.

But my opinion doesn't really matter, I play them which means I have a natural bias towards them and I'm not the most skilled player (nor have I played a game in more than a year) so my grasp towards the competitive field is limited

My analogy was ment more to convey the point of " (Unless it's a win at all costs army) it's not autowin, most your rolls are leaps of faith. If a skaven player rolls well after the game your mind will be filled with thoughts of how OP they are, if they roll badly you're gonna have a hard time not laughing your ass off as you wipe the floor with them"

Don't take it personally LordTyphus seems that after i defended the LM so valiantly people just decided to whine about something else.