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I play about 2500 games.

The WAAC gamer we have (or had, I havn't played in sometime)



But to get back on topic, I've found that while I hate fighting them, tomb kings was pretty good, though not really the best. I wish to play out new empire, but we didn't really have one at the club nearby.

Orcs is good fun

I think what Duke was failing to see is that while the book is very wide and varied, you can only fit narrow margins of it into a single list at any time. Most people forget that.

But I maintain they aren't broke, but balanced. Just because a book has a variety of options (which is what drew me to them) doesnt mean their broke. Options mean choices, which means things are added and things left out. I can't run a Demon Prince, a Warshrine, a lvl 4 Tzeentch, 50 warriors, 50 marauders, 10 ogres, 10 trolls, and everything else in one list.

Again, WoC having options makes them a well written and balanced book, but hardly OTT or OP. They are far more closer to balanced than not.

I have TK's too.. and I greatly miss my old book. I still play it when I can get someone to agree. If only I still had incantations! I really like some of the TK special characters in 8th however, and I think they did the right thing with Khalida, seeing how much they dropped the price of skeleton archers.

Honestly i agree that they're balanced aside from the marauders.
No army can match them for the same points, and some pay times that for far worse.

True. That said, I've tried several times to win with Marauder hordes and I always fail miserably!

I haven't figured out the right support pieces yet.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Define best.

Do you mean easiest to use?

Most damaging potential?

Its really difficult to tell imo.

Well best usually means easiest to win with.

zeekill wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Define best.

Do you mean easiest to use?

Most damaging potential?

Its really difficult to tell imo.

Well best usually means easiest to win with.

So you are asking for the most point and click army that requires hardly any tactical thought then?
Ok, got it.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

zeekill wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Define best.

Do you mean easiest to use?

Most damaging potential?

Its really difficult to tell imo.

Well best usually means easiest to win with.

So you are asking for the most point and click army that requires hardly any tactical thought then?
Ok, got it.

well, zeekill isn't the OP

I think what OP was asking for is the best "makeover" - i.e. balanced, was addressed the best, etc.

Dr. Cheesesteak wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

zeekill wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Define best.

Do you mean easiest to use?

Most damaging potential?

Its really difficult to tell imo.

Well best usually means easiest to win with.

So you are asking for the most point and click army that requires hardly any tactical thought then?
Ok, got it.

well, zeekill isn't the OP

I think what OP was asking for is the best "makeover" - i.e. balanced, was addressed the best, etc.

Yea don't mistake me for the OP. I was just saying what I thought "best" means

Oh yeah, you have a point
With so many Empire threads flying around, it gets confusing who made what.

rockerbikie wrote:

HoverBoy wrote:WAAC players will ruin you'r fun no matter what they play so stop picking on ma army

I just hate cupped hands with a passion.

I have used Cupped Hands 7 times.

And rolled a "1" EVERY time.

I have never actually seen it work.


Anyway, I voted for VC. They are so much more flexible and usable compared to the old book. They are actually fun to fight now!

Unless my math is wrong.. there's a .0006291456% chance of that happening..

.16 to the 6th?


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Oh wow. You actually said 7 times. Even stranger is every time youve ever seen the item used it's not gone off.

My gamestore must be your cosmic foil, because I've only seen it fail once. ( earlier tonight actually. )