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Biomancy seems like a cure-all for any DH party, so in our games, I make sure that the person receiving said healing is rather *quite* aware of the caress of the Warp on their injured flesh while receiving such healing. This has caused some characters to have a "only if I'm going to die immediately" clause with the psyker, resulting in many of them making-do with whatever mundane medical care they can receive.

I've also, for balance reasons, established a house rule that once a character receives psychic healing, he cannot benefit from further psychic healing until he/she is again wounded. So if a guy takes 20 points of damage in a battle, leaving him with 3 remaining Wounds, and is healed by the biomancer for 10 points, he has 13 Wounds remaining until he again takes damage, and the psyker can start again. This prevents the psyker from just completely using the power fettered (no risk of Perils of the Warp) until he's completely healed everyone in the party after every bar-brawl.

Psienesis wrote:Biomancy seems like a cure-all for any DH party, so in our games, I make sure that the person receiving said healing is rather *quite* aware of the caress of the Warp on their injured flesh while receiving such healing. This has caused some characters to have a "only if I'm going to die immediately" clause with the psyker, resulting in many of them making-do with whatever mundane medical care they can receive.

I've also, for balance reasons, established a house rule that once a character receives psychic healing, he cannot benefit from further psychic healing until he/she is again wounded. So if a guy takes 20 points of damage in a battle, leaving him with 3 remaining Wounds, and is healed by the biomancer for 10 points, he has 13 Wounds remaining until he again takes damage, and the psyker can start again. This prevents the psyker from just completely using the power fettered (no risk of Perils of the Warp) until he's completely healed everyone in the party after every bar-brawl.

Imo biomancy is quite overpowered, and such rules need to be established, in my exp. templar calix with biomancy can carry a party on his back like no one's busyness. But fluff-wise such powers seem to be rare and highly valued.

Psienesis wrote:It is human nature to view some members of the preferred sex as merely objects.

It's also human nature to murder people you don't like. Shall I get the gun? Misogyny really shouldn't have any place here, and excusing it as "human nature" is just pathetic. For the most part we don't obey "human nature" by your definition of it, we're better than that-- civilized, rather than animalistic.

Saying someone is attractive or even sexy is fine, but making it so that this is the only thing that you see about them is highly disrespectful and disgraceful to yourself.

Melissia wrote:

Psienesis wrote:It is human nature to view some members of the preferred sex as merely objects.

It's also human nature to murder people you don't like. Shall I get the gun? Misogyny really shouldn't have any place here, and excusing it as "human nature" is just pathetic. For the most part we don't obey "human nature" by your definition of it, we're better than that-- civilized, rather than animalistic.

Saying someone is attractive or even sexy is fine, but making it so that this is the only thing that you see about them is highly disrespectful and disgraceful to yourself.

Thank you.

The sisters hospitliers are probably the minor hospital faction in 40k. I think the bulk are handled by "Medicae" Trained medical person of some sort to include doctors, technicians, nurses. Several come to mind:

Nurse from Ultramarines novels in the tyranid invasion of Tarsus Ultra worked in a conventional sounding hospital setting
Ex-guard medic from "thekilling fields" another ultramarines series book (had his hospital made out of a bunch of derilect super IG tanks
Dorden, combat medic / doctor that used to be a family medicine doctor of some sort for his small rural town but now operates on any war zone
There was also another one from "Double Eagle" (part of the Sabbat crusades) that was both a priest and a medicae including demonstrating that to identify them, at least some have a medicae tattoo/electoo on their wrist. Also worked on some small air force base in the middle of the swamp much like most modern forward deployed bases operate today.
From the short story collection of "Let the Galaxy Burn" there was a very good story of a bunch of Medicae under the Deparmento Munitorium going around to sanitoriums looking for a plague cure. Think 1900's sanitoriums with patients locked in single rooms with straight jackets on.. Modern hospitals do not really do this anymore
Another Ex-guard turned doctor turned inquisition agent from "Ravenor omnibus" used to run a back alley shack of a clinic in slums/lower hives (think a barbershop with medicine)


So far I am guessing that probably the bulk of medics belong to the departmento munitorium just like guard

The town doctors and other civilian doctors as such belong to the Administratum

The Ecclecharachy runs the Hospitiler hospitals.

Ad-mechanicus probably has their own servitor/prostethics shops but so far no books talk about them much yet or if there is, I don't know it.

And of course we all know the SM versions. (i.e. insert chapter here and have some healing vats/cyber/bionics shops and you're good to go.

With how tough SM are, you can almost patch them up like Orks. I remember reading somewhere that despite the complexity of SM biology, it's actually easier to be a SM apothacary just cause the SM are so sturdy and can self heal most things. Also don't have to worry about treating women or OBGYN stuff or alot of the things that normal medics have to contend with.


As to the other races.. I'm sure Eldar have hospitals of some sort. Either that or just stand next to webway gate and according to DoW, that'll heal you too lol.
Dark Eldar homoculus are supposedly as good at healing as they are at killing/torture. They specifically mention this in the first Ultramarine book on Pavonis. Though it will take alot to convince them not to hurt you plenty if they decided to patch you back up.
Orks have their Mad doc's and their 'urty syringe.. ya.. imagine a butcher shop and that's probably pretty close, cept grot orderlies!
Necrons - tomb spider fixer upper or stasis vault or res orb or self heal like T-1000 (probably most efficient hospital ever lol)
Tau - probably exist. So far the only references have been from "The Chapter's Due" by the Ultramarines. Etherals apparently can heal you by touch as well. Or at least make you forget the pain.
Chaos Daemons - no such thing! (though supposedly Isha the Eldar goddess might be able to help if you can get to her in nurgle's lair)
Tyranids have no need of hospitals, the ripper swarms will just eat your corpse and make you a new body.
CSM - apparently the Dark mechanicus exist and offer alot of the cyborg upgrades and armor upgrades if you bring them slaves. Can you imagine trying to settle your bill at one of their "hospitals?" So far no mention I can find anywhere of chaos hospitals or healing of any kind. The only one that even comes to mind is Fabius Bile and you'll be as likely to get healed from the mutigen he shoots into you as turn into a chaos spawn of somesort.

Psienesis wrote:Depends entirely on where you live and how much money you have. If you're an up-Hive grand poobah, the hospital you go to is high-tech and extremely nice. If you live in the underhive? You find a corner to die in. There is no hospital. And people will collect your corpse to sell it to the AdMech (or someone else) for use as servitor stock, organ harvesting, or rendering into corpse-starch.

This!

riplikash wrote:As always, it depends on the world. Almost anything and everything you can imagine can exist somewhere in the Imperium, from Canada to hell Nazi Germany to decadant utopia.

Feudal worlds may have shamans and medicine men or apothicaries. Imperial worlds may be exactly like our own, or socialist, or hive like, or ultracapitalist. They may have crazy Star Trek hospitals for the nobility and Civil War bone hackers for the commoners. It may be a company world where everyone works for the corporation and gets treated at the local med station.

Anything you want. The Imperium has very little shared culture between worlds.

And this!

It's good to remember that while 40k is Grimdark (tm) it is not entirely Grimgrimdarkdark. there are charities and religious orders that help the sick and wounded, there are points of light out there.

Of course there are also groups that pose as charities so they can harvest the sick and wounded for demonic rites...

Imperial tech and access very tremendously, at the high end you have people living for centuries, popping their brains into clone bodies and regrowing limbs. At the low end... there's the Emperor's Mercy.

But even lowly guardsmen can get bionics and augmentics that are far beyond what we can do today so the 'typical' level of medical care might actually be higher that the 21st century. But only if you are rich/useful.


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Psienesis wrote:Biomancy seems like a cure-all for any DH party, so in our games, I make sure that the person receiving said healing is rather *quite* aware of the caress of the Warp on their injured flesh while receiving such healing. This has caused some characters to have a "only if I'm going to die immediately" clause with the psyker, resulting in many of them making-do with whatever mundane medical care they can receive.

I've also, for balance reasons, established a house rule that once a character receives psychic healing, he cannot benefit from further psychic healing until he/she is again wounded. So if a guy takes 20 points of damage in a battle, leaving him with 3 remaining Wounds, and is healed by the biomancer for 10 points, he has 13 Wounds remaining until he again takes damage, and the psyker can start again. This prevents the psyker from just completely using the power fettered (no risk of Perils of the Warp) until he's completely healed everyone in the party after every bar-brawl.

I dunno, seems that in most RPGs if you're getting into fights you need some kind of magic cure light wounds mechanic. The simple fact is in real life if you're stabbed, shot, etc you're out for weeks or months. Unless a game has a mechanic where heroes never get hit (due to dodging, luck, fate, whatever) you either need to never get into fights or have a quick and easy way to pop back up.

It's an issue across almost all RPGs.

Dr Mathias wrote:The Adeptus Sororitas have the Orders Hospitalize which provide field surgery for the Battle Sisters, as well as other Imperial non-marine branches. Out of all the options, they're who I'd like to have working on me.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Orders_Hospitaller#.T9fARxzWpcQ

Yeah, when I read about them, the first thing I though was that is there are no male Doctors in the IG. Field medics sure, but they just stabilize you for transport to the closest M*A*S*H (Mobile Adepta Sororitas Hospital) where the sisters there perform surgery, tend to you in recovery, then send you back to the battle.

Yeah, when I read about them, the first thing I though was that is there are no male Doctors in the IG. Field medics sure, but they just stabilize you for transport to the closest M*A*S*H (Mobile Adepta Sororitas Hospital) where the sisters there perform surgery, tend to you in recovery, then send you back to the battle.

I think this is yet another one of those people in power armor stepping in to take all the glory sorta thing while the lowly Munitorium docs just suck it up and work in the administritum run hospitals while the ecclechariachy paint the most murals thus get all the credit.

Which would look better? some bleary eyed guy with a beard from lack of shaving for the past few days tending triage/inpatient care (think guy from scrubs) or some power armored possibly depicted with a halo sister tending to you for a picture on the recruiting poster???

So basically there is an army of all-female doctors who patch up and look after the IG wherever they go?

Xendarc wrote:So basically there is an army of all-female doctors who patch up and look after the IG wherever they go?

No. I'm pretty sure Hospitallers serve only in Imperial Crusades or provide support for Ecclesiarchal mercy missions and charities. Oh, and their sisters in the militant orders. Guard regiments have their medical units, and the Astartes have Apothecaries. The Mechanicus, Navy, etc. should have their own as well.

The Mad Tanker wrote:

Dr Mathias wrote:The Adeptus Sororitas have the Orders Hospitalize which provide field surgery for the Battle Sisters, as well as other Imperial non-marine branches. Out of all the options, they're who I'd like to have working on me.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Orders_Hospitaller#.T9fARxzWpcQ

Yeah, when I read about them, the first thing I though was that is there are no male Doctors in the IG. Field medics sure, but they just stabilize you for transport to the closest M*A*S*H (Mobile Adepta Sororitas Hospital) where the sisters there perform surgery, tend to you in recovery, then send you back to the battle.

Hawkeye would have a field day

sudojoe wrote:

Yeah, when I read about them, the first thing I though was that is there are no male Doctors in the IG. Field medics sure, but they just stabilize you for transport to the closest M*A*S*H (Mobile Adepta Sororitas Hospital) where the sisters there perform surgery, tend to you in recovery, then send you back to the battle.

I think this is yet another one of those people in power armor stepping in to take all the glory sorta thing while the lowly Munitorium docs just suck it up and work in the administritum run hospitals while the ecclechariachy paint the most murals thus get all the credit.

Which would look better? some bleary eyed guy with a beard from lack of shaving for the past few days tending triage/inpatient care (think guy from scrubs) or some power armored possibly depicted with a halo sister tending to you for a picture on the recruiting poster???

Not all sisters where power armor, only the Orders Militant do I believe.

Sisters hospitaller don't wear powered armor in most cases. They have what are referred to as shield robes, which provide flak armor / light carapace levels of protection.