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I'll be picking up the Gamer's Edition, but I agree that it's a rulebook too big to take to your regular game, at least for people who rely on walking and public transit like myself. I'm still getting it for the fluff, art, and so on, and so I can read up on the rules at home before the starter comes out with a nice portable ruleset.

I ordered the Gamer's Edition since I figured I'm getting the satchel, dice with cool Lasgun power pack, and the little Servo-skull markers tossed in with the book for an extra 50 bucks or so. Seems like a decent deal to me since I need the book anyways.

Davor wrote:

SlaveToDorkness wrote:After googleing "Skylander" I really don't see your point. Those are clearly Toys.

See, I find it extremely annoying to play against someone who doesn't have the rule book or make an effort to know the rules. Asking to look up something in mine mid-game drives me nuts.

Then why complain about the price?

Please show me where I complained about the price?

I know it's a toy, but so is GW. They are plastic TOY soldiers. Yes it's a hobby. It's an expensive hobby. I complain about the prices as well but accept it. It's either accept it or get out. I just find it funny when people keep complaining about the price but are still in the hobby.

But you must still acknowledge the vast difference in a model kit made to be customizable and detailed as opposed to toys like those.

I agree, someone who doesn't have the book and REFUSES to buy the boo and the keeps asking to "look something up in mid game" or even "out of game" really bugs me. It's one thing not having the money now but will get it later, but it's another thing to refuse to buy it and still wanting to look at it.

Exactly. My favorite is asking questions on the forums to get some rules that way. lol

After buying the 8th Edition Fantasy BRB filled with bolded text to highlight main points of the rules better laid out, lots of diagrams, and lots of art, I will be purchasing a 6th Edition 40k BRB.

My only gripe from the 8th Ed book that I hope you addressed this time GW, is that you have put the Terrain Generation Table next to the section dealing with Terrain this time.

Bought collectors and gamers - well, between myself and husband we did. Bag looks half decent, and my current one is wearing out anyway, and only way to get the new lasgun packs before end july....

I bought the Big Beige Book (I like this, BBB), in the gamer's edition. However, I run a group of 12+ weekly 40k players, so I kinda need the book ASAP. We'll wait unit the end of August to even start playing 6e, and I'm encouraging all of them to get the little book when it comes out from the starter set.

So, out of the 8 of us that will actually buy a rule book in the group, only 1 (me) will most likely get the BBB.

Our gaming group has decided to pool our money and buy a community BRB and wait for the box set for individual books and hopefully the box will have some good models in it.

I'll more than likely wait for the starter set to come along. I usually buy these anyway as they are good value, regardless of the armies you collect you can just sell them on and turn a profit. If I bought the hardback now then when that did drop in the shops my BBB would be obsolete as they are a pain for transporting and flicking through unlike the smaller one.

I'm interested in what 75 dollars can buy me of 40K 2nd edition off Amazon or Ebay, frankly.

I was on the phone this morning dithering as to buy the thing or not with Neal from the Warstore. I had $75 to spend per the wife...I bought 2x Dust Tactics Axis Zombies, Apes and another unit...then I cried, risked death, bought the 6th ed basic edition and that fething skull servitor tape measure...now I owe Neal $150 and my wife is gonna have my legs broke!?!?!?!

SlaveToDorkness wrote:It would be the same price as the hardcopy so it would do nothing to stop piracy. They will wait a few months then release it in a digital form.

For those of you waiting on the boxed set version, how are you going to play until then, or will you not?

Will not. Local store staff knows its a crazy sale for fans, and know better than to push 6th edition on us in stores
prior to the starter set release.

Fancy expensive book? very no desu.

starter set? yep, count me in for a few.

I'm going to wait to get the starter box, depending on what it contains it might mean the start of a new project for me. I don't feel like dropping $90 on a big book when for 100 or so I can get a more manageable one with some models included.

Not being able to play for a while doesn't really matter to me because I won't return to living somewhere that isn't in the middle of the forest for over a year.

In the meantime I can get acquainted with the new rules, plus I could start collecting some Warmachine or something because the group back in the city is starting that now.

Sorry I just can't cope without the artwork and huge background to read.

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YakManDoo wrote:I was on the phone this morning dithering as to buy the thing or not with Neal from the Warstore. I had $75 to spend per the wife...I bought 2x Dust Tactics Axis Zombies, Apes and another unit...then I cried, risked death, bought the 6th ed basic edition and that fething skull servitor tape measure...now I owe Neal $150 and my wife is gonna have my legs broke!?!?!?!

That's pretty sad if you can't even spend your own money on stuff you want and instead you are whipped by your wife. Buy whatever you want dude, unless of course you're not making money.

Honestly I don't blame people who are waiting for the starter set, that's the important thing if you want to play the game! I like the big rulebook 'cause it has lots of pretty pictures n' stuff.

Vladsimpaler wrote:That's pretty sad if you can't even spend your own money on stuff you want and instead you are whipped by your wife. Buy whatever you want dude, unless of course you're not making money.

Yeah, everyone knows that the secret to a happy relationship is 'Do what you want...'

I know of quite a few people (not just gamers) who have a 'hobby budget'... it's not a matter of being 'whipped' so much as paying the bills taking precedence.

It's called an attempt at humor for Christ's sake. I bought the preorder AND I bought my Dust stuff AND pissed off my wife in the process of doing what I really wanted to do. The key to being happily married is not impulse buying plastic crack and its overpriced, poorly written, badly designed and SUPER AWESOME GOTTAHAVEITNOMATTERWHAT rulebook. That tape measure makes me giggle.

I DID do what I wanted to do AND it got me in trouble with my wife (not really.) Sheesh...

Goldshield wrote:
After buying the 8th Edition Fantasy BRB filled with bolded text to highlight main points of the rules better laid out, lots of diagrams, and lots of art, I will be purchasing a 6th Edition 40k BRB.

My only gripe from the 8th Ed book that I hope you addressed this time GW, is that you have put the Terrain Generation Table next to the section dealing with Terrain this time.

Probably wouldn't hurt to get the victory conditions correct either eh?

Several forums and our hobby group distinguish the two primary GW rule books as...

BBB - Big Black Book - 40k
BRB - Big Red Book - Fantasy

I've ordered the Gamers Edition, if only for the 'Leatherette' bag it comes in. I do wonder what rules will differ though.

I might get the starter box, but not the actual rulebook.

I'm not!

Between Sedition Wars and Transformer import pre-orders, don't have the money.

Plus, it's been over a year since the last time I even played 40K, so it's not worth it.

I'm gonna buy the normal hardcover version, but not the collector's or gamer's edition.

The leather bag from the gamer's edition looks nice, but neither edition provides me with anything I'd pay 60 or 70 extra dollars for.

The reason I'm gonna get the hardcover edition at all, is that my regular opponent has poor vision - it's been a while since she got new glasses, and her prescription is probably out of date - and she can't read the text in the mini-rulebooks. I know this because I got the AoBR boxed set after a while, and she could read neither the minibook it contained, nor the minibook from the WHFB IoB set.

Unless someone decides to buy me one, it's not happening. I hated buying D&D books. Expensive as hell, and a pain in the ass to carry around. And now this huge thing? And it's $75? Not gonna buy it.

I won't be. I know 2 people who will definitely get it - I'll just get my boss to teach me 6th Ed. as he will be buying it. Besides I'm saving up for the FFG 'Only War' rulebook which is out later this year.

insaniak wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:That's pretty sad if you can't even spend your own money on stuff you want and instead you are whipped by your wife. Buy whatever you want dude, unless of course you're not making money.

Yeah, everyone knows that the secret to a happy relationship is 'Do what you want...'

I know of quite a few people (not just gamers) who have a 'hobby budget'... it's not a matter of being 'whipped' so much as paying the bills taking precedence.

wise words.

most wives will hate 40k and think it is a waste of money... even geek wives ( I met my wife playing WoW at a guild party... 5'11" blonde hair blue eyes legs for days and a buck twenty so no not what is was expecting to meet there) we play lots of games together but she thinks it is a waste of money but she realizes its something i like so we... compromised

learning to compromise will do you wonders, basically we agreed to a box a month, and if i do any extra work which i like to do (I have a builder's license so installing appliance fixing electrical problems, building/fixing decks/stair things like that) above and beyond my normal 40 hour a week job I get to spend 1/3 of that on 40k or whatever i want assuming we can afford it... but as said the mortgage and basic bills come first.

i ended up ordering the gamers edition assuming my flgs can get it in hoping the bag is decent quality.

i get why people will wait for the small version... whats funny to me though is GW not releasing the digital edition at launch and instead making people buy a hard copy then likely release the digital to make carrying it easier and then a few months later we'll get the little rulebook... though it'd be kind of funny (in a demented sort of way mind you) if the mini version was a simplified version .. not the full rules and not tourney legal just basics of the game to teach beginners... hopefully they don't but it'd be something in the GW profit wheelhouse.

I got the gamers edition because I like the extras and I really want a copy of the new rules to read. I will probably buy the small book when they come out for one to haul around with me.

insaniak wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:That's pretty sad if you can't even spend your own money on stuff you want and instead you are whipped by your wife. Buy whatever you want dude, unless of course you're not making money.

Yeah, everyone knows that the secret to a happy relationship is 'Do what you want...'

I know of quite a few people (not just gamers) who have a 'hobby budget'... it's not a matter of being 'whipped' so much as paying the bills taking precedence.

Whoops, I forgot the secret to a real happy relationship is "do what your wife/girlfriend says and don't think for yourself".
And it's not even like he said that he was going over budget, he was going over some budget that his wife set for him. If bills are getting paid and he worked for his money then he deserves to splurge a little. It's not as if he went to go get a Tau Manta or something

YakManDoo wrote:It's called an attempt at humor for Christ's sake. I bought the preorder AND I bought my Dust stuff AND pissed off my wife in the process of doing what I really wanted to do. The key to being happily married is not impulse buying plastic crack and its overpriced, poorly written, badly designed and SUPER AWESOME GOTTAHAVEITNOMATTERWHAT rulebook. That tape measure makes me giggle.

I DID do what I wanted to do AND it got me in trouble with my wife (not really.) Sheesh...

Haha, key word being attempt there.
And I'm sure that your wife buys stuff that you think is crap too, so in the end who really cares? Just use that as ammo for next time. Of course if you're not paying bills because you went over budget then that's one thing. But if you're not then it's nothing and you'll be fine.

Unless I end up at the store drunk again, and buy it on impulse, I probably won't be purchasing the big book.

I'll just download it when I can (probably like 48 hours after release day), and if I like what I see, I'll buy the starter box.

The Gamer's Edition looked tempting for a moment, until I realized you only get a set of regular dice as opposed to all the objective/damage/AP markers. So $50 for a flimsy faux-leather purse with two tin badges? Pass.

Dannyevilguy wrote:After all that fuss they made about digital releases, kinda suprised they aren't releasing a digital version right off the bat. Would theoretically help cut down on piracy. Some money is better than no money from your customers.

Considering their digital versions are more expensive than the print ones, I doubt it will curb piracy.

The biggest thing curtailing the piracy of the digital version is it being exclusive to the Apple devices.

Vladsimpaler wrote:Whoops, I forgot the secret to a real happy relationship is "do what your wife/girlfriend says and don't think for yourself".

Yeah, compromise and communication is for wimps.

And it's not even like he said that he was going over budget, he was going over some budget that his wife set for him. If bills are getting paid and he worked for his money then he deserves to splurge a little. It's not as if he went to go get a Tau Manta or something

Or it's possible you're taking a throwaway comment just a little more seriously than it was intended...

The tape-measure is the biggest disappointment. It's such a cool idea, and they ruin it by making it look like a cheap toy. It will probably break after 3-4 games like the regular GW tape measure.

Now, if instead of a cheap plastic red button on the eye, they made the eye an actual laser pointer so you could check LOS, that I would pay money for.