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I had a friend like that when I was younger and oddly enough he played chaos also. You need to let him know you will no longer play him if he continues to lose his temper and if he ever throws a model at you again you will beat his That is completely unacceptable. I know you don't have a lot of people to play with and he is your roommate but you have to stand up for yourself. Of course check yourself, make sure you aren't being a while you play, not being condescending or a rules lawyer - there are always two sides to every story and all we are hearing is yours.

You might also explain to him by losing his temper over little things he is bound to lose the game. Losing his temper I am sure causes him not thin clearly and more likely too lose. I have been massacred on turn 1 then have the rest of the game go right for me before(and vice versa), if i lost my cool on turn one I would have surely lost. On the other hand knowing he loses his temper you can use that to your advantage if you ever wish to play with his mind.

Do not play with this person any more. Not playing at all is preferable to playing someone like this.

Im with this guy.

We wrote:I had a friend like that when I was younger and oddly enough he played chaos also. You need to let him know you will no longer play him if he continues to lose his temper and if he ever throws a model at you again you will beat his That is completely unacceptable. I know you don't have a lot of people to play with and he is your roommate but you have to stand up for yourself. Of course check yourself, make sure you aren't being a while you play, not being condescending or a rules lawyer - there are always two sides to every story and all we are hearing is yours.

You might also explain to him by losing his temper over little things he is bound to lose the game. Losing his temper I am sure causes him not thin clearly and more likely too lose. I have been massacred on turn 1 then have the rest of the game go right for me before(and vice versa), if i lost my cool on turn one I would have surely lost. On the other hand knowing he loses his temper you can use that to your advantage if you ever wish to play with his mind.

He actually saw several turns ahead on plans I hadn't even thought of, while hes mad he seems to be a very good strategist.

Flipping out at the game is one thing. Flipping out on you is another.

Height issues you say? I deal with people like this all the time. I'm 6' 4".

If he can't handle his toys dying to pretend bullets this isn't the game for him.

Best remedy:

Stop playing. Completely. When he wants you to play say "You took the fun out of it".

Don't be a jerk about it. Just be casual and distract yourself by painting or switching to another hobby for a few weeks.

Let him cool his jets.

I have rage issues but all my friends know a simple trick to calm me down.

Me- " ing I ing hate people who do that. Did you see that just cut off like three people in a row! 's lucky I don't have a gun! !!!! !!!!!!!"

Friends (usually know nothing about 40k)- "Tell me about Space Marines?"

Me- "Oh, well you see it all starts with a mysterious man known only as the Emperor..."

Their eyes glaze over but I'm sure they prefer me babbling about make-believe than hearing me scream profanities out the window.

Sounds like a classic case of SAMS (Small Angry Man Syndrome).

And small here doesn't just relate to height, but people who are in some way small, petty people who can't cope with the world unless it lets them win.

Most people suffer it to some degree but this guy sounds like a reasonably serious case. I'd agree with the comments about filming your games; you just have to watch out how you do it so he doesn't see it as you victimising him - deliberately provoking him into fits of rage so you can then belittle him with the film later.

TheAvengingKnee wrote:Mostly gaming in general, he gets mad when he got trounced in some video games as well.

He also get a bit mad about any kind of height comment.

He crushed me every game of 40k we played for 2 years before I managed to win a single game. Now a lot of our games could easily swing one direction or another depending on what comes in when and tactics.

Sincerely and very seriously, it sounds like he may have a mild social disorder.


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But to answer your question, I'd actually say a response entirely contradictory to what has been suggested is ideal. Stopping playing or calling him out, though logical, would not work on someone with the personality you've described. They will take offense to it, and assume you are being ridiculous/unfair/mean, and it will upset him further.

The way to deal with such a thing is to, quite simply, throw a game. Throw it incredibly obviously. Don't do a single thing right, outright don't shoot, skip entire turns, and do whatever you can to avoid killing a model of his. When he inevitably wins, and confronts you on not playing/trying, ask him which he prefers; an opponent who barely plays and offers no challenge, or an opponent putting forth their best effort and offering a real game to be played.

Eventually, he will end up throwing all his minis at you, then will not have an army to play with.

This guy sounds like a loose cannon. I would avoid playing 40k or any other games with him. Maybe need to sever your ties completely.

Kaldor wrote:

TheAvengingKnee wrote:I just don't know what to do, there aren't a lot of players around so having to not play him would be bad, but he gets angry when he starts to lose or if I manage to get a lucky 1 shot on a land raider.

Do not play with this person any more. Not playing at all is preferable to playing someone like this.

^ this, I'd much rather stay home, paint or read some BL books then go to the FLGS and deal with some man child throwing a tantrum because his match of war dollies isn't going his way.

KalashnikovMarine wrote:^ this, I'd much rather stay home, paint or read some BL books then go to the FLGS and deal with some man child throwing a tantrum because his match of war dollies isn't going his way.

The problem being is that this guy is apparently his room mate.

SilverMK2 wrote:

KalashnikovMarine wrote:^ this, I'd much rather stay home, paint or read some BL books then go to the FLGS and deal with some man child throwing a tantrum because his match of war dollies isn't going his way.

The problem being is that this guy is apparently his room mate.

I missed that... well, same advice, and don't renew your lease with him/find a new roommate when the lease comes up.

timetowaste85 wrote:Calmly set your stuff down, walk over to him, pull your pants and undergarments down (he'll be curious/disturbed at this point as to what's going on), punch him in the stomach, then with the wind knocked out of him, he'll be bent over, slap him with President Johnson across the face. Calmly rezip, walk across the table, and ask if it's time for the next phase. Always does the trick for me. Nobody bitches more than once.

You do this often?

gaovinni wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:Calmly set your stuff down, walk over to him, pull your pants and undergarments down (he'll be curious/disturbed at this point as to what's going on), punch him in the stomach, then with the wind knocked out of him, he'll be bent over, slap him with President Johnson across the face. Calmly rezip, walk across the table, and ask if it's time for the next phase. Always does the trick for me. Nobody bitches more than once.

You do this often?

Tell him to grow the feth up, and if he doesnt like it then give him the Power Fist.

If you don't want to confront him, just refuse to play him. Tell him you'd rather play a different army for a change. That will force him to find other people to play against, and that might encourage him to behave himself. Either that, or they'll put him in his place when he spits the dummy...

TheAvengingKnee wrote:he tossed the model twords me in anger actually managing to hit me with it across the table..

I guess that is the one legit reason to get finecost

Send him to play at the kids table. Some people are just not cut out for this sort of "Social Hobby".

Anger Management counciling and medication might be an idea too.

Since you mentioned he doesn't like height comments, do you think his anger is linked to his height? Surely he cant be that small, do your other room mates treat him differently because of it or something? Either way maybe you should talk to him about it, just tell him height doesn't mean anything and he should let it go. If that doesnt work just pull down your underwear like timetowaste said, that ought to bring a smile to his face, although a punch to the stomach may not. If he throws something at you just throw a bomb at him! Problem solved.

I would agree with the not playing him if he wasn't your roommate. Since you appear to have more than one, I would see if you and your other roommates can talk to him together. Make sure that you're on your best behavior when you play (in case you might accidentally be doing something that pisses him off). He needs some help for his anger issues though, as someone won't just take it nicely later on. Also, he's throwing a model that would cost $75 to replace, and he shouldn't be surprised when vehicles die to crons.

Kevlar wrote:Next time you play holster a smith and wesson on your hip. Refer to when ever he acts up, and give it a feminine name, like Betty.

"Betty doesn't like it when you throw your models at me".

Brilliant!

His isn't acceptable behavior. I wouldn't play him again.

Discuss it with him before the game.

1. It is a game of luck and luck or lack of it will affect the outcome.
2. If he displays such an outburst once again, you will pick up your figs and consider the outburst an admission of defeat. You win and he loses. If he does such a thing on turn 1, consider it a win and offer him a rematch.

I do like the idea of video recording his outbursts from your perspective. Seeing himself in action should be enough to embarass him. If it is not, then tell him you play the game for the challenge and enjoyment and his actions have managed to suck all of that out of the game and you won't play him again.


Another alternative is giving him something to do instead of throwing his stuff at you. Perhaps blow up a paper bag and pop it aside his head. A quick scream. Walking out for a smoke or a soda... It may slow the game down but anything has got to be better than his actions now.

Embarrassment.

I've found that adults act like this because they either don't realize what they look like —video camera might be a good tactic— or they forget that other people are around and watching. (Kids are another story, you're on your own there!)

Honestly, I'd discuss it with your whole FLGS that when he crosses a line like that (throwing models especially) you have everyone stop, including yourself, and look at him in silence until he either calms down or apologizes.

That, or previous posters advice of packing up your things and having him realize there are repercussions for his actions. Act like that? We don't play. Pretty straightforward and puts the ball in his park.

Good luck.

DoW

If he's doing this at a store, the owner/manager needs to step in before it escalates. I've found that LMS isn't very manageable once someone is angry, but someone telling them that flying into a rage = store ban BEFORE an incident can go a long way.

Well, there's a few options:

- Put up with it.
- Deal with him.
- Don't play at all.
- Play with other people.

As others have already said; asking him what's wrong, recording a game or a swift kick to the ol' pork casserole may work.

Can I ask what your reaction was to him throwing his stuff at you? I don't think silence (unless in shock) is appropriate.
A gentle reminder that the existence of the human species does not, in fact, hang in the balance, fate does not have it in for him and that a game is supposed to be fun for both players involved is required.

Failing that, tell him "you win" and pack away your models. If you can't play and enjoy the game, why should he?

To be honest, he sounds like a spoilt little **** who's parents gave him everything poopykins ever asked for - so we should all be angry at the parents, right? I would be utterly devastated to hear my kid acts like that. Can you sell children? Just a thought.

Although I've never actually beein in this position, I generally have a rule regarding people throwing their models at me: either they want me to have them and are choosing the more forceful way to display this exchange, or else they have decided to immediately end our game and prevent any future games. Either way. I live in a major city and am friendly as Hell (Canadian, after all) so I won't have trouble finding another game.

TheCaptain wrote:But to answer your question, I'd actually say a response entirely contradictory to what has been suggested is ideal. Stopping playing or calling him out, though logical, would not work on someone with the personality you've described. They will take offense to it, and assume you are being ridiculous/unfair/mean, and it will upset him further.

But as you're not playing with him, who cares? Let him rage in his own time. Life is too short to spend it playing against douche nozzles.

OP, don't waste your time with this guy.

i generally take a sarcastic approach to most things in order to illustrate the ridiculousness of a situation.

ask him if he's cried enough tears for the tear god. then inform him that his tears only lubricate your necron machinery, increasing your killing power.

tell him that the powers of chaos find his petty-ness and childish nature unbecoming of a future daemon prince, and have turned their backs on him.

I really have to respectfully disagree with everyone whose response has been to mock and/or punish the guy. It is an issue affecting how he functions, therefore it should be dealt with as such, meaning seriously, with set goals and a plan. This recommendation stands even more so if he is your friend. To do any less would be going jack on him.

Kevlar wrote:Next time you play holster a smith and wesson on your hip. Refer to when ever he acts up, and give it a feminine name, like Betty.

"Betty doesn't like it when you throw your models at me".

Heh, I do need to name mine. But seriously if this happened to me I would calmly pack my warhammer stuff without a word of acknowledgement to him, then I would refuse to play with him. If he asked why I won't play with him I would tell him the truth "You act like a three year old when something doesnt go right for you when we play." Now keep in mind I am a bigger guy who is not afraid to niether hop down someones throat, nor am I afraid of a physical altercation with a jackass. But since you are the non confrontational type I would say sit him down with your roommate, if he acts like this in wargaming he probably acts like this in other fields of his life, which is flat out unacceptable.

Evil Lamp 6 wrote:He doesn't sound like a good friend. I would be upfront with him about his anger problem.

Agreed.

Real friends don't throw gak at you when they're losing.