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Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote: I've flirted with nerd girls for advantage in games. There's a story involving a convention, a Yu-Gi-Oh! tourney and a Dark Magician cosplayer that isn't Dakka suitable at all. It's no more cheating to me than using mind games to crush their will to win, which is fairly common on the card playing side.
Which is exactly why I don't play card games: they're rabid with poor sportsmen and petty WAAC'ers.
If someone has to resort to psychological tricks to win a game, all that says is that they're not capable of winning by actually playing the game, and that they're willing to suck the fun out of the experience for their opponent to increase their chance of winning at toy soldiers. It's the wargaming equivalent of those tosser footballers who hurl themselves to the ground if they get within ten feet of an opposing player and roll about on the ground pretending to cry in agony in the hope that the ref wasn't paying attention and grants them a penalty; sad.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
Any game of luck is a game of skill when it comes to bluffing, if you can make the opponent think you care more about objective A than you do Objective B, even though objective B is the lynch pin to your plan you have a good chunk of the battle won. Everyone has had that one defeat where they were bluffed and got their butts handed to them on a platter. So while I disagree with off table distractions, using battlefield bluffs is in my opinion a must to be a good player.
DA 4000 points W/L/D 6e 3/2/0
IG 1500 points W/L/D 6e 0/2/0
And 100% Primed!
I have been married 9 years, if my wife did that I would not even notice. If a female not my wife did that I would probably be tabled on turn 2
Just kidding.
Anyway, I use what I call psychological warfare on my opponents depending on their skill level and the venue. I will pretend I really care about a unit or do subtle things like deploy my hero who is nothing special while making an ominous noice so my opponent thinks he is special.
But it all depends on the situation. Most games we play are open lists so no need for that crap. But sometimes I play people and we agree it is a no holds barred matchup so we do whatever it takes. luckily I play people where we are mature and we can mix it up like that.
Before a tournament, or even a friendly game, I carefully avoid bathing, showering or even changing my clothes for at least a month. That way when we play, my opponent can;t stop gagging and are constantly needing tissues to wipe the tears away from their eyes and cover their nose. I don't cheat - it's just mightily hard for them to concentrate!
Of course, since I don't usually queue up games a month in advance, I just make sure to never bathe or wash my clothes - just in case.
Day 1 Ok, I've tried re-installing my OS, upgrading ram, put new and more expensive graphics card but the pictures still aren't showing. I decided to buy a new computer, oh the excitement.
Day 2 OP, I just spent 6000 dollars on a new top of the line computer, after installing it on my office I clicked on this link again but to no avail, the pictures are still not showing. I'm starting to think there's sorcery involved.
Day 3 Got a new HP printer and printed this thread about 600 times, hoping that in one of those prints the pictures would show, but nothing.
Day 4 I haven't eaten in days, I'm thirsty, but I am stronger than this, my ctrl and R keys stop functioning, I must have clicked them a million times.
Day 5 OP is trolling hard
But seriously, thanks for the pics OP.
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Several years ago, a friend of mine and I attended a MTG sealed deck event held at some VFW hall that allowed smoking. On our way there we picked up some cigars with the intention to cause such a stink that our opponents would be distracted and hopefully make some mistakes. Things didn't really work out for us, as we both lost in the first round, and were asked by the tournament organizer to not smoke while games were in session.
A Town Called Malus wrote:Just because it is called "The Executioners Axe" doesn't mean it is an axe...
azreal13 wrote:Dude, each to their own and all that, but frankly, if Dakka's interplanetary flame cannon of death goes off point blank in your nads you've nobody to blame but yourself!
wowsmash wrote: She never showed them. I never stated that. I said she wore a low cut shirt. This whole thread got blown out of proportion. I will not post pics of my wife on the internet so you can stop asking.
I think you can relax a little pal, it's harmless internet fun. Remember people are more or less anonymous here so, well, yeah, the rest is kinda obvious to say. People aren't seriously asking you to post pictures of your wide (wait for someone to quote this and say I'm wrong though! Though hopefully saying they'll do that will stop them for you. Haha! Double reverse psychology! What'll you do now interwebz!?! )
OT, I haven't used distraction personally, though like the idea of setting up a big hitter unit with a nasty IC somewhere, make a fuss of them to draw my opponenets attention and combat efforts while my scouts slip round the back unharmed and melta everything
wowsmash wrote: She never showed them. I never stated that. I said she wore a low cut shirt. This whole thread got blown out of proportion. I will not post pics of my wife on the internet so you can stop asking.
NO YOU ARE LIE YOU SAID SHE WAS NAKED !!
On a related note, I often pull my willy out and wave it around behind my units when my opponent is shooting at them. I'm convinced they miss more often than not when I'm doing it.
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Which is exactly why I don't play card games: they're rabid with poor sportsmen and petty WAAC'ers.
If someone has to resort to psychological tricks to win a game, all that says is that they're not capable of winning by actually playing the game, and that they're willing to suck the fun out of the experience for their opponent to increase their chance of winning at toy soldiers. It's the wargaming equivalent of those tosser footballers who hurl themselves to the ground if they get within ten feet of an opposing player and roll about on the ground pretending to cry in agony in the hope that the ref wasn't paying attention and grants them a penalty; sad.
Bit of a tl;dr here.
Either that or they've maxed their skill at the game and need a new edge to stay ahead. TBF, card game players used to not get near as butthurt as toy soldier players do so I could be in the thick of it at a top table and we'd shake hands start laughing, calling each other harsh slang afterwards. I can remember one time going against one of the well-known players in this area in the final round of a tourney. The one thing that decided me as the victor was that I drew a good monster, exactly what I needed, but acted like it was a useless card. i looked really disappointed when I drew the card and went "urgh! Go." He immediately turned his existing monsters to Attack which i knew wouldn't kill me, and i knew he wouldn't draw any others as he had a pretty even split on his deck and was running around 20% monsters left undrawn. Next turn I immediately played my big guy and had drawn into another then attacked over both of his little guys that he thought he had safely switched to Attack mode for exact damage. It was my little bluff that influenced him that way.
Wardragoon wrote: Any game of luck is a game of skill when it comes to bluffing, if you can make the opponent think you care more about objective A than you do Objective B, even though objective B is the lynch pin to your plan you have a good chunk of the battle won. Everyone has had that one defeat where they were bluffed and got their butts handed to them on a platter. So while I disagree with off table distractions, using battlefield bluffs is in my opinion a must to be a good player.
wowsmash wrote: She never showed them. I never stated that. I said she wore a low cut shirt. This whole thread got blown out of proportion. I will not post pics of my wife on the internet so you can stop asking.
NO YOU ARE LIE YOU SAID SHE WAS NAKED !!
On a related note, I often pull my willy out and wave it around behind my units when my opponent is shooting at them. I'm convinced they miss more often than not when I'm doing it.
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote: I've flirted with nerd girls for advantage in games. There's a story involving a convention, a Yu-Gi-Oh! tourney and a Dark Magician cosplayer that isn't Dakka suitable at all. It's no more cheating to me than using mind games to crush their will to win, which is fairly common on the card playing side.
Haha, that reminds me so much of that Big bang theory moment where its sheldon vs wil wheaton in a card tounament:
I do it all the time in tournaments, but not by the method you descibe...........................
My Orks for example, are extremely well painted. However, I have a Grot unit, that's Golden Deamon Standard, very uniquely converted, and really stands out from the rest. I place that unit on the board last, and make a big thing about putting on the table, 30 Grots, all individually placed gently on the table, whilst mentioning how these are my best painted unit, and mean a lot to me. When they are lost in combat, I gently remove them and put them back in the box, rather than the standard 'dead pile' in the corner and make some comment about not being happy my best painted unit is lost. Regardless of how they are tactically placed, I guarentee my opponent will spend several units worth of firing until he's wiped them all out. This Grot unit is totally worthless to me in the game, but the fact that it draws fire like moths to a light, allows me to move other units into better positions without loosing them to fire.
I have 1 such unit for each of my armies, and it never, never fails! My Genestealer Cult has a worthless brotherhood unit, My 1k Sons a demon unit, my Imperial Guard a large conscripts unit, all painted to Golden Demon standards, converted so they really stand put on the table.
I call it Psychological warfare, and it never ceases to amaze me how Veteran players always take the bait!
A bit of everything really....... Titanicus, Bolt Action, Cruel Seas, Black Seas, Blood Red Skies, Kingdom Death, Relic Knights, DUST Tactics, Zombicide the lit goes on.............
TheSecretSquig wrote: I do it all the time in tournaments, but not by the method you descibe...........................
My Orks for example, are extremely well painted. However, I have a Grot unit, that's Golden Deamon Standard, very uniquely converted, and really stands out from the rest. I place that unit on the board last, and make a big thing about putting on the table, 30 Grots, all individually placed gently on the table, whilst mentioning how these are my best painted unit, and mean a lot to me. When they are lost in combat, I gently remove them and put them back in the box, rather than the standard 'dead pile' in the corner and make some comment about not being happy my best painted unit is lost. Regardless of how they are tactically placed, I guarentee my opponent will spend several units worth of firing until he's wiped them all out. This Grot unit is totally worthless to me in the game, but the fact that it draws fire like moths to a light, allows me to move other units into better positions without loosing them to fire.
I have 1 such unit for each of my armies, and it never, never fails! My Genestealer Cult has a worthless brotherhood unit, My 1k Sons a demon unit, my Imperial Guard a large conscripts unit, all painted to Golden Demon standards, converted so they really stand put on the table.
I call it Psychological warfare, and it never ceases to amaze me how Veteran players always take the bait!
OK, for some reason i had 'challenge accepted' in my head when i read this and was all ready to call you out on whether or not they were really 'Golden Daemon Standard' or not, then i looked your gallery.... *turns green with envy* beautiful models TSS!
forgive me?
EDIT: used to do the same with my BA, i would really extol the virtues of Dante...all while Mephiston beats face
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inmygravenimage wrote:Have courage, faith and beer, my friend - it will be done!
Legends of the Five Rings is a CCG. My buds and I were at a con several years ago and Aeg/Wotc was their hosting a tourney where it was a combination of the CCG itself and the game Risk, using the L5R world landscape broken up into territories that team of players would march into and fight over.
The teams were formatted into a daimyo- who made the decisions on where the armies march into and occupy, the daimyo didn't actually take part in the CCG portion of the event, he was the guy playing Risk. A runner - who ran the orders from the daimyo to the warlords (daimyo wasn't allowed to communicate with the warlords himself), the runner had five minutes to grapevine orders from the daimyo to the warlords during the running phase. And then there were the warlords themselves who fought the battles with their decks when they found themselves in a territory with a warlord from a different clans, battles lasted 30 minutes. The teams were 1 Daimyo, 1 Runner, 3 Warlords.
So my Crab clan ends up being one of the dominating clans after a few rounds. And my friend is my teams runner, and he's really good at his job, because he's fast. We come up with idea that should tie up the opposing clans runners by taking them to the open bar adjacent to the play area and buying them drinks and basically socializing with them...not all of them, just the selected rivals. In a hall that 8 clans, which equals about 40 people total, things got kinda chaotic.....and my friends plan to take opposing runners out for drinks really worked like a charm, causing them to not be around during the planning/running phases. I was the general and my gak planned out for like 5 turns. Anyways, it was much good natured fun and Crab clan tied for first. and for those who follow L5R, we were all very crabby.
Anyways, that's my distraction story. No boobs, just booze. Boobs came later that night....but that's a PM type of story.
TheSecretSquig wrote: I do it all the time in tournaments, but not by the method you descibe...........................
My Orks for example, are extremely well painted. However, I have a Grot unit, that's Golden Deamon Standard, very uniquely converted, and really stands out from the rest. I place that unit on the board last, and make a big thing about putting on the table, 30 Grots, all individually placed gently on the table, whilst mentioning how these are my best painted unit, and mean a lot to me. When they are lost in combat, I gently remove them and put them back in the box, rather than the standard 'dead pile' in the corner and make some comment about not being happy my best painted unit is lost. Regardless of how they are tactically placed, I guarentee my opponent will spend several units worth of firing until he's wiped them all out. This Grot unit is totally worthless to me in the game, but the fact that it draws fire like moths to a light, allows me to move other units into better positions without loosing them to fire.
I have 1 such unit for each of my armies, and it never, never fails! My Genestealer Cult has a worthless brotherhood unit, My 1k Sons a demon unit, my Imperial Guard a large conscripts unit, all painted to Golden Demon standards, converted so they really stand put on the table.
I call it Psychological warfare, and it never ceases to amaze me how Veteran players always take the bait!
Heh, that wouldnt work on me.....all your models look way too amazing by my standards, seriously you could teach people how to paint, heck you could probably teach many GD winners how to paiint.
Wardragoon wrote: Any game of luck is a game of skill when it comes to bluffing, if you can make the opponent think you care more about objective A than you do Objective B, even though objective B is the lynch pin to your plan you have a good chunk of the battle won. Everyone has had that one defeat where they were bluffed and got their butts handed to them on a platter. So while I disagree with off table distractions, using battlefield bluffs is in my opinion a must to be a good player.
^This guy is smart.
Well to elaborate further, only people who are completely new to poker think its a game of luck, its a game of mental warfare, make them think you have a killer hand (Or plan) even though you don't I have actually just winged a game and won by doing this. This is all from a person who has NEVER won a game of chess , so either my amazing ones make me skilled, or I know how to play peoples psyche.
P.S. Don't let any of my friends know that I am smart, they wouldnt believe anyone said that
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DA 4000 points W/L/D 6e 3/2/0
IG 1500 points W/L/D 6e 0/2/0
And 100% Primed!
I have fooled people into thinkig which unit i priotize more, Sure those termies are coming right at me, but those eunits are holding objectives.
Or this one game where i had his guy guessing over and over which unit i cared about the most, When in reality i was killing anything at random with no semblance of strategy.
Legends of the Five Rings is a CCG. My buds and I were at a con several years ago and Aeg/Wotc was their hosting a tourney where it was a combination of the CCG itself and the game Risk, using the L5R world landscape broken up into territories that team of players would march into and fight over.
The teams were formatted into a daimyo- who made the decisions on where the armies march into and occupy, the daimyo didn't actually take part in the CCG portion of the event, he was the guy playing Risk. A runner - who ran the orders from the daimyo to the warlords (daimyo wasn't allowed to communicate with the warlords himself), the runner had five minutes to grapevine orders from the daimyo to the warlords during the running phase. And then there were the warlords themselves who fought the battles with their decks when they found themselves in a territory with a warlord from a different clans, battles lasted 30 minutes. The teams were 1 Daimyo, 1 Runner, 3 Warlords.
So my Crab clan ends up being one of the dominating clans after a few rounds. And my friend is my teams runner, and he's really good at his job, because he's fast. We come up with idea that should tie up the opposing clans runners by taking them to the open bar adjacent to the play area and buying them drinks and basically socializing with them...not all of them, just the selected rivals. In a hall that 8 clans, which equals about 40 people total, things got kinda chaotic.....and my friends plan to take opposing runners out for drinks really worked like a charm, causing them to not be around during the planning/running phases. I was the general and my gak planned out for like 5 turns. Anyways, it was much good natured fun and Crab clan tied for first. and for those who follow L5R, we were all very crabby.
Anyways, that's my distraction story. No boobs, just booze. Boobs came later that night....but that's a PM type of story.
I expect that anyone who doesn't have a Brit Flag next to their user name will not understand this next statement............
You've read Rimmers 'Risk Diary'.
Generally, my Sumer afternoon games by about turn 5 no one gives a hoot about who's turn it is or what's just killed what because we've eaten half a dead cow from the BBQ and drank too much beer.
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A bit of everything really....... Titanicus, Bolt Action, Cruel Seas, Black Seas, Blood Red Skies, Kingdom Death, Relic Knights, DUST Tactics, Zombicide the lit goes on.............
She never showed them. I never stated that. I said she wore a low cut shirt. 
W/L/D 6e 3/2/0
W/L/D 6e 0/2/0
5000pts 
6000pts 
3000pts
Titanicus, Bolt Action, Cruel Seas, Black Seas, Blood Red Skies, Kingdom Death, Relic Knights, DUST Tactics, Zombicide the lit goes on............. 
*turns green with envy* beautiful models 
THE FUN HAS BEEN DOUBLED!!! 