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Palindrome wrote:

However hyperbole about hanging her is idiotic. The merest whisper of a paedophile and the pitchforks come out.


Yeah, if I really wanted to ruin someone, I know what I would accuse them of. The media would take care of the rest, and the truth really wouldn't matter. It would only get in the way of selling the story.

Of course, paedophilia is still pretty vile in my book, and the general public seem pretty amped up about it in the wake of the Sanduski trial.

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 Easy E wrote:
Palindrome wrote:

However hyperbole about hanging her is idiotic. The merest whisper of a paedophile and the pitchforks come out.


Yeah, if I really wanted to ruin someone, I know what I would accuse them of. The media would take care of the rest, and the truth really wouldn't matter. It would only get in the way of selling the story.

Of course, paedophilia is still pretty vile in my book, and the general public seem pretty amped up about it in the wake of the Sanduski trial.


Rightfully angry about it.
Its not hyperbole. Sexual predators should be publicly exterminated.

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In someplaces, the age of consent is 12 (a place in japan I believe)
I think she deserves what she got, but some people blow it out of proportion.
I'm 16, and if I was offered oral for right answers, my god I'll hit the books

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Was she hot? I'd totally bang a cougar for some minis.

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 DukeBadham wrote:
In someplaces, the age of consent is 12 (a place in japan I believe)
I think she deserves what she got, but some people blow it out of proportion.
I'm 16, and if I was offered oral for right answers, my god I'll hit the books


Thats awesome and by that I mean I don't give a gak about what you just said. You're not the predator.

Take the 'heh heh heh' blinders off. Its still about predators.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 Frazzled wrote:
 DukeBadham wrote:
In someplaces, the age of consent is 12 (a place in japan I believe)
I think she deserves what she got, but some people blow it out of proportion.
I'm 16, and if I was offered oral for right answers, my god I'll hit the books


Thats awesome and by that I mean I don't give a gak about what you just said. You're not the predator.

Take the 'heh heh heh' blinders off. Its still about predators.

Well yeah, but some people make it seem like she violently raped young children that had no clue, which is utter bull, she gave oral to 16 year old boys, she deserves punishment, but not stuff as drastic as hanging

If she violently raped innocent young children that had no clue, then I think hanging too lenient, but that's not what she did, so hanging seems a tad much.
But your view is different and as I grow up I might start to agree with you, but till then, no hanging I feel

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Was she hot? I'd totally bang a cougar for some minis.

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Remember the teacher who went off with the young girl a while back? There was a lot of vitriol aimed at him. This issue always highlights some of the basic sexism at work.
Girls and women are innocents who can't make sensible decisions for themselves and need to be protected.
Men and boys are self determining free willed agents who always know what they're getting themselves into.

This woman should be treated EXACTLY the same as a guy who did the same thing.

   
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 DukeBadham wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
 DukeBadham wrote:
In someplaces, the age of consent is 12 (a place in japan I believe)
I think she deserves what she got, but some people blow it out of proportion.
I'm 16, and if I was offered oral for right answers, my god I'll hit the books


Thats awesome and by that I mean I don't give a gak about what you just said. You're not the predator.

Take the 'heh heh heh' blinders off. Its still about predators.

Well yeah, but some people make it seem like she violently raped young children that had no clue, which is utter bull, she gave oral to 16 year old boys, she deserves punishment, but not stuff as drastic as hanging

If she violently raped innocent young children that had no clue, then I think hanging too lenient, but that's not what she did, so hanging seems a tad much.
But your view is different and as I grow up I might start to agree with you, but till then, no hanging I feel[youtube]


SOunds like ahanging offense to me. If you switched the genders everyone would be much more hostile to the situaiton.


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Da Boss wrote:
Remember the teacher who went off with the young girl a while back? There was a lot of vitriol aimed at him. This issue always highlights some of the basic sexism at work.
Girls and women are innocents who can't make sensible decisions for themselves and need to be protected.
Men and boys are self determining free willed agents who always know what they're getting themselves into.

This woman should be treated EXACTLY the same as a guy who did the same thing.


Hence my point. Hang her high.

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Da Boss wrote:
This woman should be treated EXACTLY the same as a guy who did the same thing.


I agre with this. The law should see no difference.

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 Easy E wrote:
Da Boss wrote:
This woman should be treated EXACTLY the same as a guy who did the same thing.


I agre with this. The law should see no difference.

I'm pretty sure the law doesn't.
But people do.

If a couple blow jobs led to having sex with a young homely highschool teacher is the worse thing that happens in these kids lives I'd be pretty genuinely suprised.
Is she a depraved individual: sure. I don't know if I'd call her a predator though. She clearly has some unaddressed mental health issuues, possibly even sex addiction. which isnt a real thing.

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If they were two years older this wouldn't matter.
Other than the obvious the thing wrong was the emotional blackmail, that's the bit that irks me.
   
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 AustonT wrote:
 Easy E wrote:
Da Boss wrote:
This woman should be treated EXACTLY the same as a guy who did the same thing.


I agre with this. The law should see no difference.

I'm pretty sure the law doesn't.
But people do.

If a couple blow jobs led to having sex with a young homely highschool teacher is the worse thing that happens in these kids lives I'd be pretty genuinely suprised.
Is she a depraved individual: sure. I don't know if I'd call her a predator though. She clearly has some unaddressed mental health issuues, possibly even sex addiction. which isnt a real thing.


She fethed students.

She has power over the students. She controls their grades. In controlling their grades, she controls their futures.

Now do you understand why its a no-no that she fethed students in her class?
   
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I'll say it again in case you missed it the first time.

If a couple blow jobs led to having sex with a young homely highschool teacher is the worse thing that happens in these kids lives I'd be pretty genuinely suprised.

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The two sides to looking at this are:
The kids do not mind.
It's illegal.

And it's illegal overrides the kids feelings, as lictor stated it could go south quite fast considering she controlled their future.
   
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Am I going to be the first one to say that if the sexes were reversed you would all be crucifying this teacher, not just some?

   
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 DutchKillsRambo wrote:
Am I going to be the first one to say that if the sexes were reversed you would all be crucifying this teacher, not just some?


You'd be about a page late.

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Really? All the "Shes not too bad" lines speak different.
   
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 DutchKillsRambo wrote:
Am I going to be the first one to say that if the sexes were reversed you would all be crucifying this teacher, not just some?



Your not the first, but the sexes are different...
   
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 DutchKillsRambo wrote:
Am I going to be the first one to say that if the sexes were reversed you would all be crucifying this teacher, not just some?



Not really, that comments appears in every thread like this.
   
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Even you AustonT said "If a couple blow jobs led to having sex with a young homely highschool teacher is the worse thing that happens in these kids lives I'd be pretty genuinely suprised. "

Seriously? Reverse that. If the worse thing that happened to a 16 year old girl is getting banged by her 28 year old teacher its not that bad?
   
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Yeah if the worst thing in her life is having a 28 year old muff dive and bang her with her consent (albeit underage). I'd say she lived a fething pristine life.

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 DutchKillsRambo wrote:
Even you AustonT said "If a couple blow jobs led to having sex with a young homely highschool teacher is the worse thing that happens in these kids lives I'd be pretty genuinely suprised. "

Seriously? Reverse that. If the worse thing that happened to a 16 year old girl is getting banged by her 28 year old teacher its not that bad?


not over here, that's legal age. he'd get fired for abuse of position, not much more.


and a situation like that occurred, cept we knew 90% of the story and blamed her for it, since she seduced him. the law went against him public opinion didn't.

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 DutchKillsRambo wrote:
Am I going to be the first one to say that if the sexes were reversed you would all be crucifying this teacher, not just some?



You're not the first, actually.


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 AustonT wrote:
Yeah if the worst thing in her life is having a 28 year old muff dive and bang her with her consent (albeit underage). I'd say she lived a fething pristine life.


And if that happened to GC, there's no place on earth he's safe from being skinned alive by Frazzled.

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I didn't say it was right, Or that you have to like it. But let's have an honest moment here. In the grand scheme, you can think (or have) of hundreds of things that are both worse and more plausible.

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You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.

Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391013.page
I have conceded that the Eldar page I started in P&M is their legitimate home. Free Candy! Updated 10/19.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391553.page
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
 
   
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 AustonT wrote:
I didn't say it was right, Or that you have to like it. But let's have an honest moment here. In the grand scheme, you can think (or have) of hundreds of things that are both worse and more plausible.


This kind of relationship can seriously feth with the kid's mind and cause untold grievances.

I know a girl who used to, in highschool, sleep with her swimming coach. Word reached the principal that she was having an illicit affair with someone, but they didn't know who. When pressured into answering, she was at some point asked if it was her father who was abusing her, and she didn't deny, so the principal involved the police. Her father was a rather well known pianist and director of the conservatory in Quebec City, and lost his career because of the allegations.

Now I got all kinds of furious at her when she told me the story (I've rarely, if ever, wanted to punch a girl as much as I did then), but I must admit that I can't possibly imagine how it must have felt to be in love with someone and know that having it known will mean the person I love could end in prison.

She ended up being seriously screwed up in her sexuality...

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AustonT wrote:I didn't say it was right, Or that you have to like it. But let's have an honest moment here. In the grand scheme, you can think (or have) of hundreds of things that are both worse and more plausible.


There's always something worse. Saying, "It could be worse" isn't a valid argument. The guys who were molested could've had their dicks shut in car doors, but just because they didn't doesn't mean we should disregard them being molested.
   
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I wish I could find it online but I dont have hope so, but it was a Rolling Stone article from a couple of years ago that follows up on one of these anonymous male teenagers from these stories.

It was a terribly interesting read and brought up a lot of points I had never even thought of. Very similar story, and showed how after he told, his life basically went to gak. He went from one of the popular jocks to the scum of the school. People were mad at him for telling, calling him gay, calling him a bitch and whatnot. I dunno its hard to summarize something I read probably circa 2009 but it really showed that as much as we all wanted to bang our hot (for me it was English) teacher, there's ramifications far beyond what 16 year old can foresee, and sometimes handle.

And my earlier point probably got lost in the fact that this is a forum mostly dominated by straight men, but how many times does the looks of a male pedophile come into the equation? Never. Like when that story broke about the Pakis I believe running a child sex ring in the UK, I don't remember many people worrying if the men involved were attractive. Thats all I was trying to point out, but this just probably isn't the right site.
   
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 Easy E wrote:
Da Boss wrote:
This woman should be treated EXACTLY the same as a guy who did the same thing.


I agre with this. The law should see no difference.


The law doesn't see a difference. No-one gets hung for having sex with a 16 year old.

It's a breach of trust, and simply not acceptable behaviour from someone given that trust, but it isn't a death penalty thing. That's just crazy.

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Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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 sebster wrote:
 Easy E wrote:
Da Boss wrote:
This woman should be treated EXACTLY the same as a guy who did the same thing.


I agre with this. The law should see no difference.


The law doesn't see a difference. No-one gets hung for having sex with a 16 year old.

It's a breach of trust, and simply not acceptable behaviour from someone given that trust, but it isn't a death penalty thing. That's just crazy.


The law should be changed. Predators deserve no mercy.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 Frazzled wrote:
Predators deserve no mercy.


Dogs are predators.

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 Frazzled wrote:
 sebster wrote:
 Easy E wrote:
Da Boss wrote:
This woman should be treated EXACTLY the same as a guy who did the same thing.


I agre with this. The law should see no difference.


The law doesn't see a difference. No-one gets hung for having sex with a 16 year old.

It's a breach of trust, and simply not acceptable behaviour from someone given that trust, but it isn't a death penalty thing. That's just crazy.


The law should be changed. Predators deserve no mercy.


Yeah, let's remove any motivation to stop at sex instead of just killing the witness to ensure their silence. If you're going to get the death penalty anyway if you get caught, might as well minimize the chances of getting caught.

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