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2012/11/27 12:14:44
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
Da Boss wrote: This woman should be treated EXACTLY the same as a guy who did the same thing.
I agre with this. The law should see no difference.
The law doesn't see a difference. No-one gets hung for having sex with a 16 year old.
It's a breach of trust, and simply not acceptable behaviour from someone given that trust, but it isn't a death penalty thing. That's just crazy.
The law should be changed. Predators deserve no mercy.
Yeah, let's remove any motivation to stop at sex instead of just killing the witness to ensure their silence. If you're going to get the death penalty anyway if you get caught, might as well minimize the chances of getting caught.
Using that logic there should be no punishment for anything.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2012/11/29 04:14:16
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
Frazzled wrote: The law should be changed. Predators deserve no mercy.
Yeah, we should be killing people who have sex with willing 16 year olds.
I mean, what the lady did is wrong, but calling for death is beyond ridiculous.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/11/29 04:50:50
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
insert generic "doesn't matter had sex" comment here and "angry noises, rabblerabblerabble noises" here. remove which ever you disagree with
but really, I'd rather see more of the investigation before grabbing my pitchfork, lighter, plank of wood and bonfire before I can say anything aside from lock her up for X amount of time
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2012/11/29 05:31:08
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/11/29 05:32:40
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
Cheesecat wrote: Just be glad that Frazzled's views on criminal justice are being reflected less and less in modern society.
That's true. It's probably a good rule for Dakka in general - "take a deep breath and remind yourself that no-one in the real world believes anything that silly"
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/11/29 06:01:59
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
Hey, facepalm all you like, some people have been emotionally scarred by dogs humping their leg (I'm sure there's someone on the internet who has) One of my parent’s friends had a dachshund that humped anything with a pulse, I was lucky enough to never meet it but the stories I heard.... ;_;
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2012/11/29 06:06:44
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
these days, you are looking at kids exploring sexuality when they are 12/13/14, not legal age.
Whilst I say yes, in principle what the teacher did was wrong, was there that aspect that the parents of those kids should be asking themselves why the feck their children accepted that.
Not anywhere near a death penalty offence IMO, maybe a slight torturing for involving kids in school, but the career slights and social slights that go with this. She won't ever be able to teach again, so she's out of a job.
Blame someone, blame societal values within the USA, not a teacher who used those values.
2012/11/29 08:51:59
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
Doctadeth wrote: these days, you are looking at kids exploring sexuality when they are 12/13/14, not legal age.
These days?
Whilst I say yes, in principle what the teacher did was wrong, was there that aspect that the parents of those kids should be asking themselves why the feck their children accepted that.
No-one is pretending the kids aren't sexually curious. They're 16 year old boys.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/11/29 11:59:14
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
Frazzled wrote: The law should be changed. Predators deserve no mercy.
Yeah, we should be killing people who have sex with willing 16 year olds.
I mean, what the lady did is wrong, but calling for death is beyond ridiculous.
Just be glad that Frazzled's views on criminal justice are being reflected less and less in modern society.
Why are you glad? Is crime plummeting?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2012/11/29 12:21:47
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/11/29 12:57:21
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
DukeBadham wrote: In someplaces, the age of consent is 12 (a place in japan I believe)
I think she deserves what she got, but some people blow it out of proportion.
I'm 16, and if I was offered oral for right answers, my god I'll hit the books
Jesus Christ!
really?
That's just too young.
yeah, yeah, yeah, I know different cultures, be tolerant, not long ago 50 year old farts married very young girls.
2012/11/29 13:19:56
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
DukeBadham wrote: In someplaces, the age of consent is 12 (a place in japan I believe)
I think she deserves what she got, but some people blow it out of proportion.
I'm 16, and if I was offered oral for right answers, my god I'll hit the books
Jesus Christ!
really?
That's just too young.
yeah, yeah, yeah, I know different cultures, be tolerant, not long ago 50 year old farts married very young girls.
And slavery was legal. Oh wait, slavery still exists too.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/11/29 14:28:37
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
DukeBadham wrote: In someplaces, the age of consent is 12 (a place in japan I believe)
I think she deserves what she got, but some people blow it out of proportion.
I'm 16, and if I was offered oral for right answers, my god I'll hit the books
Jesus Christ!
really?
That's just too young.
yeah, yeah, yeah, I know different cultures, be tolerant, not long ago 50 year old farts married very young girls.
And slavery was legal. Oh wait, slavery still exists too.
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2012/11/29 14:35:18
Subject: Re:Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
On the news today there was a report that stated that for the first time in living memory New York has not had a single recorded incidence of a shooting or a stabbing for a full 24 hour period.
Limited data set, other factors etc but still.
RegalPhantom wrote: If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
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Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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2012/11/29 18:40:10
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/12/02 16:38:22
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
DukeBadham wrote: In someplaces, the age of consent is 12 (a place in japan I believe)
I think she deserves what she got, but some people blow it out of proportion.
I'm 16, and if I was offered oral for right answers, my god I'll hit the books
Jesus Christ!
really?
That's just too young.
yeah, yeah, yeah, I know different cultures, be tolerant, not long ago 50 year old farts married very young girls.
The age of consent in Japan is 13, but they actually have some of the lowest teenage pregnancy rates in the world. I think the idea is that by not having it illegal, it doesn't seem so exotic and amazing, so teens are less bothered by it. Do Not Do This Cool Thing syndrome basically. Tell kids "No, it's dirty, you're too young, you mustn't until you're 16 and married!" just makes them more eager to do it.
By saying "Pfft, you can if you want, doesn't bother me" the mysticism and charm is lessened.
Like every country they do have their problems, like the (now thankfully practically extinct) compensated dating, but sexually Japan is actually quite a safe place. Especially compared to Thailand, where it's unusual for girls to not be in prostitution.
Anyway, whilst what this woman did was certainly wrong, I hardly imagine the boys were too upset about it. And she definately doesn't deserve hanging.
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2012/12/02 17:17:11
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
DukeBadham wrote: In someplaces, the age of consent is 12 (a place in japan I believe)
I think she deserves what she got, but some people blow it out of proportion.
I'm 16, and if I was offered oral for right answers, my god I'll hit the books
Jesus Christ!
really?
That's just too young.
yeah, yeah, yeah, I know different cultures, be tolerant, not long ago 50 year old farts married very young girls.
The age of consent in Japan is 13, but they actually have some of the lowest teenage pregnancy rates in the world. I think the idea is that by not having it illegal, it doesn't seem so exotic and amazing, so teens are less bothered by it. Do Not Do This Cool Thing syndrome basically. Tell kids "No, it's dirty, you're too young, you mustn't until you're 16 and married!" just makes them more eager to do it.
By saying "Pfft, you can if you want, doesn't bother me" the mysticism and charm is lessened.
Like every country they do have their problems, like the (now thankfully practically extinct) compensated dating, but sexually Japan is actually quite a safe place. Especially compared to Thailand, where it's unusual for girls to not be in prostitution.
Anyway, whilst what this woman did was certainly wrong, I hardly imagine the boys were too upset about it. And she definately doesn't deserve hanging.
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Yeah, it's cool and all, but it ain't a toy... it's a tool. When I clean the guns, I get them to help me... but then, they get bord of it and move on. They still respect it as they know how to be responsible.
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2012/12/03 08:39:26
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
First up, yeah, crime shows a long term trend in decline. Second up, calling for the death penalty for whatever crimes are salacious enough to become media stories won't impact that one bit. "We were worried about our crime rate, but then we decided to have the death penalty for crimes that are sordid enough to make the national media, and we've barely had any crime since" is a thing no-one has ever said.
All of which makes me glad that 'that crime I just read about is shocking let's kill them' is a piece of silliness that appears on the internet a lot, but is far less common in the real world.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/12/03 12:05:42
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
First up, yeah, crime shows a long term trend in decline. Second up, calling for the death penalty for whatever crimes are salacious enough to become media stories won't impact that one bit. "We were worried about our crime rate, but then we decided to have the death penalty for crimes that are sordid enough to make the national media, and we've barely had any crime since" is a thing no-one has ever said.
All of which makes me glad that 'that crime I just read about is shocking let's kill them' is a piece of silliness that appears on the internet a lot, but is far less common in the real world.
And yet you're still commenting about it on the internet.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/12/03 12:18:03
Subject: Re:Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
Piston Honda wrote: Is it true it is no longer considered pedophilia/child molestation if the victim is over 12 years old? Read it some where when discussing the Sandusky case. Think they said 12 -age of consent was called something of a minor (I forgot)
Actually, by the actual definition this wasn't an example of paedophilia, but ephebophilia.
First up, yeah, crime shows a long term trend in decline. Second up, calling for the death penalty for whatever crimes are salacious enough to become media stories won't impact that one bit. "We were worried about our crime rate, but then we decided to have the death penalty for crimes that are sordid enough to make the national media, and we've barely had any crime since" is a thing no-one has ever said.
All of which makes me glad that 'that crime I just read about is shocking let's kill them' is a piece of silliness that appears on the internet a lot, but is far less common in the real world.
And yet you're still commenting about it on the internet.
Your point?
2012/12/04 02:58:43
Subject: Here's one way to motivate kids to learn...
Frazzled wrote: And yet you're still commenting about it on the internet.
You asked the question, it's only polite to answer.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
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