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 -Loki- wrote:

 btr75 wrote:
People who consistently get their points wrong on pencil and paper. Occasional mistakes are cool, but at a certain point, time to buy Army Builder or something.

There's really no excuse for even getting it wrong on paper. Buy a $1 calculator. List building is nothing but simple addition, and subtraction if you got something wrong. No need to buy a list building program, simply buying a calculator will solve this.

Did I ever tell you about the time that I forgot how to multiply two numbers that are both more than one digit?

And I was actually decent at math back in high school, but it's been like 7 years since I last took a math class, and I'd missed a lot of classes before then due to being really, really sick.

clively wrote:
When someone literally starts crying (even just a few tears) when they start losing.

Makes me want to grab their toy soldiers and stomp them into dust.

In all fairness, there was one game where I was in tears, although it was from laughter, rather than the fact that I was losing (and I was losing hard).

It was a team game where I was playing Blood Angels with two loaded honour guard with jump packs and plasma guns, with Mephiston, Dante, and two barebone tac squads. HG drop down, all fire their plasma guns, every single one of them fails to hit, each one rolls at least one 1, they all fail every single armour save, and then all fail every single FnP save.
Mephiston then goes on to perils twice and have his own plasma pistol blow up in his face.

At that point, my team mate was staring at me, wondering what he would do against two fully loaded armies after I had totally destoryed my entire army in my own shooting phase. All I could do was laugh hysterically.

 Fafnir wrote:

clively wrote:
When someone literally starts crying (even just a few tears) when they start losing.

Makes me want to grab their toy soldiers and stomp them into dust.

In all fairness, there was one game where I was in tears, although it was from laughter, rather than the fact that I was losing (and I was losing hard).

It was a team game where I was playing Blood Angels with two loaded honour guard with jump packs and plasma guns, with Mephiston, Dante, and two barebone tac squads. HG drop down, all fire their plasma guns, every single one of them fails to hit, each one rolls at least one 1, they all fail every single armour save, and then all fail every single FnP save.
Mephiston then goes on to perils twice and have his own plasma pistol blow up in his face.

At that point, my team mate was staring at me, wondering what he would do against two fully loaded armies after I had totally destoryed my entire army in my own shooting phase. All I could do was laugh hysterically.

To be honest, that's the kind of stuff that makes me laugh too, even when it happens to me. ^^

Like this one time in WoW, the raid I was in suffered some huge catastrophe and was imminently about to wipe, and I just start laughing my butt off on Vent and said, "It's a catastrofeth!" but with the normal word instead of feth. : D

Edited for grammar fail.

 -Loki- wrote:

 btr75 wrote:
People who consistently get their points wrong on pencil and paper. Occasional mistakes are cool, but at a certain point, time to buy Army Builder or something.

There's really no excuse for even getting it wrong on paper. Buy a $1 calculator. List building is nothing but simple addition, and subtraction if you got something wrong. No need to buy a list building program, simply buying a calculator will solve this.

You are totally right. It is all good as long as the player has their stuff correct. Army Builder just helps in that.

Dragonzord wrote:

 lambsandlions wrote:
Rules layering in casual games when I previously let things slide for them. For example, Turn 1 I shoot out of a building. He claims that only 5 of my squad can see so I agree and only roll 5 dice, then when I use a template two guys are under it but just barely so we agree the blast only hits 3. Next turn his guys don't move but suddenly he can see 8 of my guys (how can you see them but they can't see you?) then he shoots a blast and says that my pulse rifle is under the marker and it counts. When claiming area terrain the area that the terrain covers is always largest when he needs the cover and smallest when I am claiming it as cover. Suddenly all the fun was taken out of the game.

Maybe im lucky, ive been reading so much of people changing how things work when its advantageous to do so, and yet i have never experienced it...

You are lucky.

Model gluing

Rule arguments

and uncooperative dice...I mean I don't mind that much if my opponent lands a hundred or so blows, but if I roll about a hundred fails...FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUAHhh!

 Pouncey wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 btr75 wrote:
People who consistently get their points wrong on pencil and paper. Occasional mistakes are cool, but at a certain point, time to buy Army Builder or something.

There's really no excuse for even getting it wrong on paper. Buy a $1 calculator. List building is nothing but simple addition, and subtraction if you got something wrong. No need to buy a list building program, simply buying a calculator will solve this.

Did I ever tell you about the time that I forgot how to multiply two numbers that are both more than one digit?

And I was actually decent at math back in high school, but it's been like 7 years since I last took a math class, and I'd missed a lot of classes before then due to being really, really sick.

Did I ever tell you about the time I made a post where I never said people should get better at math, but buy a $1 tool that does the math for them?

Even mobile phones these days, which most people have, have calculators built into them.

There's no excuse these days for calculation errors in a simple army list.

 -Loki- wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 btr75 wrote:
People who consistently get their points wrong on pencil and paper. Occasional mistakes are cool, but at a certain point, time to buy Army Builder or something.

There's really no excuse for even getting it wrong on paper. Buy a $1 calculator. List building is nothing but simple addition, and subtraction if you got something wrong. No need to buy a list building program, simply buying a calculator will solve this.

Did I ever tell you about the time that I forgot how to multiply two numbers that are both more than one digit?

And I was actually decent at math back in high school, but it's been like 7 years since I last took a math class, and I'd missed a lot of classes before then due to being really, really sick.

Did I ever tell you about the time I made a post where I never said people should get better at math, but buy a $1 tool that does the math for them?

Even mobile phones these days, which most people have, have calculators built into them.

There's no excuse these days for calculation errors in a simple army list.

Hm?

Sorry, I was going off on a tangent, that's all.

You had said something about getting math wrong on paper, and that reminded me of what I said.

Sorry.

Hugs?

Sure. Just wondering how you got 'sometimes people can't do math right in their head for whatever reason' from 'buy a calculator', that's all.

 -Loki- wrote:
Sure. Just wondering how you got 'sometimes people can't do math right in their head for whatever reason' from 'buy a calculator', that's all.

:: hugs ::

I was actually doing it on paper. Wrote the two numbers down one on top of the other, did the first line okay, then I was like, "Uhhh... What... What do I do for the second digit?"

And my brain works like that "Six Steps" game where you link something to another thing until you get to something totally unrelated... Except my brain doesn't stop there. Apparently it annoys people in real life, because we'll be talking about one thing, and then the conversation will pause for a minute or two while we watch TV or slaughter things in videogames or whatever, and then I say or ask something that seems totally random, but my brain got there by linking things together tangentially.

It's like that thing my dad does, where he carries on a conversation while writing computer programs, and doesn't mess either thing up.

See? Like that. Talking about things that annoy people reminded me of that little story my dad told me.

Speaking of little stories my dad told me about something that annoys people, he also goes back to earlier conversations that took place hours or sometimes days earlier, and picks up right where he left off. Like that Family Guy episode where... well, all those Family Guy episodes where Peter's talking and then the chicken shows up and then comes the fight scene, and then when he wins, he goes back to where he was and continues talking like nothing happened.

Now imagine all that happening in the space of about five seconds, repeatedly, over the course of a few minutes.

Excessive randomness.

 Pouncey wrote:
Edit: One positive thing about trying to build Penitent Engines is that I discovered that carpenter's glue is not a viable substitute for model glue. To explain this, I ask you to consider that I'm the kind of person who wondered what chocolate milk and root beer - two of my favorite drinks - would taste like when mixed together, then actually tried it. Thank god I was standing in front of a sink when I took that first swig, cause... well, the spit take was enormous. And another time, I tried taking liquid Risperdal with a small amount of pure Lime Cordial. I think I puked into my mouth, but I'm unsure because I swallowed it all while thinking that it was the meds and Lime Cordial that tasted like vomit. I did wonder vaguely why my mouth was so full, though.

wat

 Kaldor wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
Edit: One positive thing about trying to build Penitent Engines is that I discovered that carpenter's glue is not a viable substitute for model glue. To explain this, I ask you to consider that I'm the kind of person who wondered what chocolate milk and root beer - two of my favorite drinks - would taste like when mixed together, then actually tried it. Thank god I was standing in front of a sink when I took that first swig, cause... well, the spit take was enormous. And another time, I tried taking liquid Risperdal with a small amount of pure Lime Cordial. I think I puked into my mouth, but I'm unsure because I swallowed it all while thinking that it was the meds and Lime Cordial that tasted like vomit. I did wonder vaguely why my mouth was so full, though.

wat

Basically saying I try weird things sometimes because I don't know any better.

My dice rolls. There's nothing wrong with botching a round of shooting once in awhile, but I've gone whole games where it seemed like every roll I had to make failed. I generally don't even bother with 2+ save models anymore as I just can't seem to make the saves. On the other hand, I make an inordinate amount of 5+ saves (especially feel no pain rolls) so that can help some times.

Another one that really grinds my gears is people watching a game I'm playing and criticizing my unit choices. You don't know why I took a unit, what my plan for it was, or what the goal of the games was, so kindly don't comment on my unit choices. I played a game with a friend of mine against his guard. We each made up lists using units that we thought were fun and never got to use. He had taken a death strike missile. Some guy comes up and watches our game for a bit before turning to my friend and just straight out called him stupid for taking a deathtrike. We kinda just looked at him until he got uncomfortable and then continued on with our game.

Super gluing my fingers to space marine arms or living a big swirly superglue finger print on a model by accident. The most upsetting thing though is to be in the final stages of painting and find a mold line in a obvious and visible spot that somehow got overlooked the entire time.

 Baldsmug wrote:
Super gluing my fingers to space marine arms or living a big swirly superglue finger print on a model by accident. The most upsetting thing though is to be in the final stages of painting and find a mold line in a obvious and visible spot that somehow got overlooked the entire time.

That's totally how I felt after spending days painting a Finecast Pedro Kantor.
There were holes all over him (every other stud), and I spent ages working on them. Then I spotted the line up the shoulder pad

This one model was being a pain in my ass, I forget exactly what I was building though, and I was trying to glue this really tiny part on. I got frustrated and ended up putting way too much glue than was needed. Holding it there for a good 5 minutes until it stuck, I was convinced I had it.

Until I couldn't remove my finger. I eventually dissolved the glue and got my finger off, but took the part off in the process. *cry*

When "super" glue won't stick one thing to another and I may as well try sticking it together with tap water.

washout77 wrote:This one model was being a pain in my ass, I forget exactly what I was building though, and I was trying to glue this really tiny part on. I got frustrated and ended up putting way too much glue than was needed. Holding it there for a good 5 minutes until it stuck, I was convinced I had it.

Until I couldn't remove my finger. I eventually dissolved the glue and got my finger off, but took the part off in the process. *cry*

Fenrir Kitsune wrote:When "super" glue won't stick one thing to another and I may as well try sticking it together with tap water.

Since we're on the subject of glue, when I got my first metal Autarch I tried to glue him together with plastic cement (I thought that 'plastic' was a reference to the glue, not what it's supposed to be used on...). Somehow I got it to work eventually. To this day I don't know how.

Thank God for super glue accelerator. No, I actually don't want to wait 5 minutes for each part to dry!

Thank God's Mother for super glue debonder. No, I actually didn't want my hand glued to the table!

 Valkyrie wrote:
That terrible joke where a model has an oversized gun or sword and someone *always* says "Oh they must be compensating for something!"

The "I think I'm funny/clever but I'm not" syndrome.

Trying to assemble 3 Skin Wolves from forgeworld. Physically don't fit together.

4 months still unassembled.

I had a few issues with the LE Games Day Skin Wolf from Forge World. But using the hot water - cold water technique, I was able to line up the arms the way I wanted them.

 Baldsmug wrote:
Super gluing my fingers to space marine arms or living a big swirly superglue finger print on a model by accident. The most upsetting thing though is to be in the final stages of painting and find a mold line in a obvious and visible spot that somehow got overlooked the entire time.

I hate the missed mold lines right when I am painting some boyz and trying to get them done in a hurry.

-Loki- wrote:When a crucial, usually load bearing, component of model won't glue.

Lol. There's a guy at my FLGS who needs to re-glue the stabilization flaps on his vendettas every time he pulls them out of his army foam. Actually, it's just on that one vendetta, his other one is fine. I keep offering to fix it more permanently for him, but he adamantly refuses.

-Loki- wrote:

btr75 wrote:People who consistently get their points wrong on pencil and paper. Occasional mistakes are cool, but at a certain point, time to buy Army Builder or something.

There's really no excuse for even getting it wrong on paper. Buy a $1 calculator. List building is nothing but simple addition, and subtraction if you got something wrong. No need to buy a list building program, simply buying a calculator will solve this.

Well, I've certainly made mistakes before, even with a calculator. I agree that they should be tolerated here and there (and 6th ed actually encourages this now).

That said, lists written out in pencil bother me, because everybody has terrible handwriting. It costs, what 5 cents to print something out from your local library? That or you can always ask one of the everybody else who brings a printed list to print yours too. I'd gladly do it if it meant playing up against somebody with a proper list.

However, I absolutely, positively, hate army builder. They put way too much information on the page, so that I can't actually find the pertinent information. You might as well write your list as a crossword puzzle. Yes, I know what the statline for a marine is, all I need to know is which heavy weapons it has. Complex units are the worst. Where I might write "5x Terminators - chainfist, lightning claws, heavy flamer, MoN, icon, mutation, vets", that would take a half a page to write with army builder, and I'd probably miss something important embedded in all that needless detail, like the heavy flamer or the icon.

Anyways, the one thing that really gets me going, though, is people who need to bicker over the definition of words in order to win arguments. The last game of 5th ed I played was a team game, where TFG 1 was on my team and TFG 2 was on theirs. Who won the game depended on what my partner could do with a unit of eldar jetbikes, some of which were old, some of which were new, and some of which were proxied. In the end, it devolved into a 20 minute fight over what the phrase "original base" meant, while the other guy and I wandered off and did something else. That experience was enough to get me to quit 40k until 6th ed came out.

If the only way you can be correct is by twisting the definition of words to your advantage, then quit being such a pedantic ass and just shut up.

 Ailaros wrote:

-Loki- wrote:When a crucial, usually load bearing, component of model won't glue.

Lol. There's a guy at my FLGS who needs to re-glue the stabilization flaps on his vendettas every time he pulls them out of his army foam. Actually, it's just on that one vendetta, his other one is fine. I keep offering to fix it more permanently for him, but he adamantly refuses.

I'm no stranger to pinning. I've had times when a load bearing part of model refuses to pin properly as well. The ankle of my Forgeworld Flyrant snapped (not surprising, it's the only part of the model touching the ground. Apparently everyones Flyrants ankle is snapped). I ran [b]two[/i] pins through it, and reinforced it with a touch of epoxy and also green stuff.

The first attempt resulted in the limb bending at the break after everything was set. I had to rebreak it, remove the pins, run a single pin, and also trim even more of the leg off than was broken. It's now fixed, but I need to be extremely gentle with it.

It irritates me when people say 'just pin it, it's easy!'. I know how to pin models. I also know how to simply apply glue. Both fail me at times, and it's enough to make me want to throw the model in the bin. This is why I love Finecast. No more pinning. Drop of superglue, and done. Bond is stronger than the resin itself.

When my opponent finds it necessary to point and refuse to play further until I move back the ork in the mob of 30 who supposedly moved 1" too far.

 -Loki- wrote:
This is why I love Finecast. No more pinning. Drop of superglue, and done. Bond is stronger than the resin itself.

Which is why it breaks just beyond the joint.

I like assembling models, and pinning is no problem, it's painting that's the problem.

Not that I mind painting, I like it, I'm even good at it, but there's so much of it.

Especially when your army is riding bikes. Each model has a lot of area to be painted.

I have about 40 bikes to paint, and then probably another 30 terminators.

And then some Space Marine infantry and Rhinos.

And have you seen those Typhoons?

So much to paint.

*Top Five*

1: BRONIES
2: The smell of some opponents
3: Poor Sportsmanship/ Childish Behavior
4: FailCast/Mold Lines
5: Inaccurate Measuring


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Freman Bloodglaive wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
This is why I love Finecast. No more pinning. Drop of superglue, and done. Bond is stronger than the resin itself.

Which is why it breaks just beyond the joint.

I like assembling models, and pinning is no problem, it's painting that's the problem.

Not that I mind painting, I like it, I'm even good at it, but there's so much of it.

Especially when your army is riding bikes. Each model has a lot of area to be painted.

I have about 40 bikes to paint, and then probably another 30 terminators.

And then some Space Marine infantry and Rhinos.

And have you seen those Typhoons?

So much to paint.

Agree 100% lol


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 Baldsmug wrote:
Super gluing my fingers to space marine arms or living a big swirly superglue finger print on a model by accident. The most upsetting thing though is to be in the final stages of painting and find a mold line in a obvious and visible spot that somehow got overlooked the entire time.

Yes!

That guy who has no filter and while I am playing against someone else starts talking about how I am a heretic and how I deserved to be smitten because I am playing chaos.