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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 11:33:13
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Major
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And some people wonder why other people vote UKIP.
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"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 11:47:32
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I think your best bet is to secede from the EU and join the USA. Here we don't stand for no government control*.
*Just don't mention Tea Party or you'll be audited and have OSHA come check you out too.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 14:22:45
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 14:49:39
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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To show my solidarity, I'm going to Olive Garden for lunch today.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 14:50:52
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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You can get both Crown Royal and half decent rum at their bar.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 14:52:23
Subject: Re:EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Europe bans Olive Oil, more for us
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 14:52:39
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I have to go back to work after, so I'll limit myself to just two rums.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 16:37:48
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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So they are banning olive oil from being refilled because there is not enough of it?
Om cunfused.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 16:39:05
Subject: Re:EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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They are banning non-existent things? how silly can they get
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 16:42:42
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Well considering whale hunting is banned in several states that have no ocean, Yeah they can get that silly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 17:06:19
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Some states in the US ban refilling ketchup bottles if they are regular labeled commercial bottles, but it is legal if you are refilling generic squeeze bottles.
Sounds like the intent is similar to that, but it's badly designed and is going to hurt a lot of regular practices that nobody has a problem with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 17:15:52
Subject: Re:EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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azazel the cat wrote:But critics have accused the EU of unwarranted meddling at a time of economic crisis
Whenever I see a criticism like this, I immediately become aware that someone is trying to create a disingenuous narrative for why they should continue to be allowed to feth over the consumer.
You want a saucer of olive oil for your dipping bread? No problem. Open the tiny package and pour in onto the plate with some delicious balsamic.
This law is there for the purpose of preventing people from:
1. claiming it's a very expensive variety and falsely serving a lower-quality version. While that is already fraud, the new law prevents that from happening, rather than just punishing the perpetrator after the fact. All in all, a much more effective law.
2. re-using olive oil.
This is just ridiculous pandering to all the oil producing countries that are currently in debt. There is no reason to do this except as a money grab plain and simple. Not only that but it is a waste of politicians time during this economic struggle the EU is going through.
If there ever was a non issue, I would day that this is it!
claiming it's a very expensive variety and falsely serving a lower-quality version. While that is already fraud, the new law prevents that from happening, rather than just punishing the perpetrator after the fact. All in all, a much more effective law.
Yes except now everybody will have to pay extra, it's already illegal and I haven't seen Counter fit oil on the front page of the papers anywhere. I love how politicians can always seam to get these kind of BS laws in place so quickly. However, ask for a law that protects people from predatory lenders or for financial regulation that keep banks from robbing the country......well those laws take time, research and ...and other stuff. Ask them for laws and enforcement that actually punish the real crooks that have bankrupt the general public, see how long it takes them to do that? But they have the resources to go after this? Seriously, how much can this "crime" possibly be affecting anybody?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 17:20:54
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I definitely don't want anyone falsely labeling the oil, but at the same time, ordering in bulk is a completely valid practice that is worth preserving.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 17:39:42
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Do Europeans pay for oil like wine? Here we don't. If not it sounds like some sort of burea rule strcitly to keep bureaucrats employed.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 08:13:51
Subject: Re:EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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[MOD]
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There are some very high end restaurants, like The River Cafe, which may offer a choice of olive oils. They are exactly the kind of place which doesn't want or need to cheat on the make of the oil, and has customers who could tell if they did. I can't remember if they charge for the oil.
In most restaurants the oil is free and there is no choice.
It's a bureau rule, pure and simple.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 09:13:59
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Doctadeth wrote:Its the fact that some restaurants get consumers who order the good stuff, then get it swapped with the bad stuff.
Pretty much trying to get people their cash.
Thing is, if people want to pay high prices for top end oil, and then can't tell they've been given the basic stuff I'm not going to be too outraged on their behalf. Because if you can't tell the difference, well then the point to spending all that money wasn't really in order to enhance the flavour of your food, but more likely just to show people that you're a rich and cultured person who spends a lot of money on premium olive oil.
The other concern, which I've got a lot more sympathy for, is brand management, as dogma suggested, so that if people try a certain olive oil in a restaraunt and unknowingly get served a third rate oil they might not buy that oil in future. A fair complain, but if that is a real problem then it isn't hard for the industry itself to solve it - premium olive oil sellers can put out their own tamper proof bottles, and have restaraunts agree to sell their oils only if they provide it in such bottles. While there is something of a legitimate concern here, I don't see the need for government regulation as clumsy as this for solving the problem. Automatically Appended Next Post: Andrew1975 wrote:However, ask for a law that protects people from predatory lenders or for financial regulation that keep banks from robbing the country......well those laws take time, research and ...and other stuff. Ask them for laws and enforcement that actually punish the real crooks that have bankrupt the general public, see how long it takes them to do that? But they have the resources to go after this?
This has probably been in the works for years. Which doesn't make it any less of a strange priority, but still.
Oh, and one thing about Europe is that their laws against predatory lenders are very good, miles better than the US laws. They've also got a few bits of stupid nonsense like this olive oil law, though, so as with everything it ends up being a balancing act where everyone ends missing and instead landing too far down one side or the other.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 10:57:01
Subject: Re:EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Kilkrazy wrote:There are some very high end restaurants, like The River Cafe, which may offer a choice of olive oils. They are exactly the kind of place which doesn't want or need to cheat on the make of the oil, and has customers who could tell if they did. I can't remember if they charge for the oil.
In most restaurants the oil is free and there is no choice.
It's a bureau rule, pure and simple.
Thats what I figured. Shortly after inception, the purpose of bureaucracies appears to shift to generating rules to maintain their employment and "usefulness." As a recipient of such beneficence, its joyous.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 11:38:09
Subject: Re:EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Frazzled wrote:Shortly after inception, the purpose of bureaucracies appears to shift to generating rules to maintain their employment and "usefulness."
So what you're saying, in essence, is that bureaucracies are essentially the legal world's equivalent of a grey-goo scenario, where all is consumed and bogged down with regulations and red tape in order to generate more regulations and red tape...
As for me, I don't eat out particularly often, and only Frankie and Bennie's chains put a bottle of olive oil on the table (along with balsamic vinegar). The rest of them I consider it a classy place if the sauces aren't served in large appropriately-coloured squeezy-bottles. I can see why there is a motive to regulate how olive oil is served, but I would say about 80% couldn't give a crap about olive oil as they load up their food with ketchup and salt...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 18:28:48
Subject: Re:EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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...who in the hell pays that much for olive oil?!
Seriously - it's a flavour you add to an existing dish, it's not like anyone is drinking the stuff on its own (and if they are, they'll probably be dead soon anyway).  If anyone is really that fussed over the flavour difference in olive oil that they are willing to pay triple figures for it, then I'm happy someone is parting that particular fool with their money, but how in the hell did this become an industry important enough to get the EU to take a closer look?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 18:34:31
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No prob for me. In the restaurants I usually go to, you don't have those refillable jugs, you get the olive oil brought to your table in a small, ceramic bowl.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 18:35:27
Subject: Re:EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Super Ready wrote:...who in the hell pays that much for olive oil?!
Seriously - it's a flavour you add to an existing dish, it's not like anyone is drinking the stuff on its own (and if they are, they'll probably be dead soon anyway).  If anyone is really that fussed over the flavour difference in olive oil that they are willing to pay triple figures for it, then I'm happy someone is parting that particular fool with their money, but how in the hell did this become an industry important enough to get the EU to take a closer look?
*sigh*
It's really very similar to the wine industry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 18:41:37
Subject: Re:EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Agreed - which I also have... shall we say... "issues" with.
Here, this - and the New Yorker article it links to - may interest you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 20:52:33
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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they could be serving counterfeit wine or beer too...
yet I doubt glasses will be banned....
half joking:
if you cant tell you were scammed on your "expensive" wine/oil/beer by taste alone... you probably dont need to be spending that much on it in the first place.
more wasteful do something to be seen doing something nanny state-ism
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 02:21:17
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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easysauce wrote:they could be serving counterfeit wine or beer too... yet I doubt glasses will be banned.... Cheaper wines are regularly served in place of better stuff. Largely because of that, its common when ordering a good wine to open it at the table.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 02:25:52
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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sebster wrote: easysauce wrote:they could be serving counterfeit wine or beer too... yet I doubt glasses will be banned.... Cheaper wines are regularly served in place of better stuff. Largely because of that, its common when ordering a good wine to open it at the table. It is quite common in pubs to refill spirits bottles with cheaper alternatives.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 03:29:55
Subject: Re:EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If the EU keeps going with these laws, I'm thinking my steak will start coming in a whole carcass that is shrink wrapped, that way it definitely cannot be horse.
What is it with the Eu and ridiculous laws.
Also what is it with britain and sauce packets, go to burger king get a burger rush outside to get to the underground ...NO SAUCE! A burger isn't a burger without sauce... (grumble)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 06:26:59
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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[MOD]
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In the paper this morning, the EU are dropping the olive oil ban due to widespread public anger and protest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 09:44:40
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Kilkrazy wrote:In the paper this morning, the EU are dropping the olive oil ban due to widespread public anger and protest.
I still fail to understand how anyone's rights are infringed on by this, or what harm/inconvenience it causes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 11:57:39
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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I think people have a right to expect the government not to waste time and money on irrelevant crap.
The harm/inconvenience is a new raft of legislation that has to be created and policed, demanding an extra lot of eco-unfriendly wastage of materials, to "solve" a problem that doesn't exist.
(I am a man who worries about the sugar wasted by serving in paper packets.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 15:15:19
Subject: EU to ban refillable olive oil jugs and dipping bowls
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Kilkrazy wrote:I think people have a right to expect the government not to waste time and money on irrelevant crap.
The harm/inconvenience is a new raft of legislation that has to be created and policed, demanding an extra lot of eco-unfriendly wastage of materials, to "solve" a problem that doesn't exist.
Yes, this. Governments are voted in and also paid by the common people and their taxes. If said government is wasting time and money, or doing things that detriment the people instead of benefitting them, you can be damn sure we have a right to complain about it.
Or, to put it as it was said in "V for Vendetta":
"People should not be afraid of our governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."
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