MSNBC and the Face of Liberal Racism in the USA

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**whembly**

cincydooley wrote:
There are plenty of things Megyn Kelly can do for me and none of them require speaking.

Take a number bro!

**Breotan**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
It looks like, to me, with the video that lady was just baiting someone to make a joke about race.

I don't give her that much credit. It's clear from the comments and laughter that everyone there were projecting their own racism onto Romney. I doubt they even saw their own comments as racist until all the blowback started.

**Frazzled**

Breotan wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
It looks like, to me, with the video that lady was just baiting someone to make a joke about race.
I don't give her that much credit. It's clear from the comments and laughter that everyone there were projecting their own racism onto Romney. I doubt they even saw their own comments as racist until all the blowback started.

Agreed.

**Medium of Death**

Good on his kids for adopting. Why is this even a story? Like before the comments were made, why were they commenting on this photo anyway?

**djones520**

Medium of Death wrote:
Good on his kids for adopting. Why is this even a story? Like before the comments were made, why were they commenting on this photo anyway?

Because MSNBC has no class?

To expand on that, there is no reason MSNBC would have brought this up, without the intention of mocking it.

**hotsauceman1**

It was a year in photos segment, famous photos and such

**Frazzled**

Thanks Obama!

**Breotan**

Melissa-Harris Perry wrote:Good morning. I'm Melissa Harris-Perry. We have a lot of news and politics to discuss this morning. Before we get to that, I'm going to start with an apology.

Last Sunday, we invited a panel of comedians for a year in review program. It's what we call our look back in laughter. But in one of the segments, we looked at a number of photos that caught our attention over the course of the year. In that segment, I asked my guests to provide kind of off the cuff ideas for captions of the photos that we were seeing. Among the images we aired was one of the Romney family that showed Governor Mitt Romney's grandchildren, including his adopted grandson, who's African-American.

Now given my own family history, I identify with that picture and I intended to say positive and celebratory things about it, but whatever the intent was, the reality is that the segment proceeded in a way that was offensive. And showing the photo in that context, that segment, was poor judgment.

So without reservation or qualification, I apologize to the Romney family. Adults who enter into public life implicitly consent to having less privacy. But their families, and especially their children, should not be treated callously or thoughtlessly. My intention was not malicious, but I broke the ground rule that families are off-limits, and for that I am sorry.

Also, allow me to apologize to other families formed through transracial adoption, because I am deeply sorry that we suggested that interracial families are in any way funny or deserving of ridicule. On this program we are dedicated to advocating for a wide diversity of families. It is one of our core principles, and I am reminded that when we are doing so, it must always be with the utmost respect.

We're generally appreciative of everyone who offered serious criticisms of last Sunday's program, and I am reminded that our fiercest critics can sometimes be our best teachers.

**SilverMK2**

I am always amazed that whenever anyone in America says sorry they have to put something in about one of their relatives or something to show that they can relate (perhaps this is where they get confused on the issue

) personally to those they have done something wrong to.

"My great aunt on my step uncles side had a dog who used to poop on the lawn of someone who looked a bit like the person/people I have annoyed, so I can totally get where they are coming from and actually have annoyed myself because of my deep and intimate connection with the annoyed group - of which I am clearly a member too guys - so it was not really that bad as I am one of you annoying myself!"

**d-usa**

SilverMK2 wrote:
I am always amazed that whenever anyone in America says sorry they have to put something in about one of their relatives or something to show that they can relate (perhaps this is where they get confused on the issue ) personally to those they have done something wrong to.

It goes with the "I'm not racist, I got a [minority] friend!'

**SlaveToDorkness**

Or as Dane Cook said "It's OK, I have a Black President!"

**Monster Rain**

The hypocrisy in this thread delights me.

**aosol**

This still doesn't make me believe in tax cuts for the wealthy.

**sebster**

MSNBC is a gakky wasteland, of course it does stuff like this.

Honestly, the only real surprise here is that there was someone watching this in order to be offended by it. "Person is actually watching MSNBC"... now that's a real news story.

Though I am fascinated by the sudden need for Republicans to report on every gakky thing that happens on MSNBC. I mean, it isn't like when gak things happen on FOX News, because people actually watch that and so when people on that station lie it actually has some kind of political relevance. When awful things happen on MSNBC its more like when your estranged uncle who runs a blog says something awful - it isn't really news in and of itself. But of course, this isn't about what's actually news, and more about making a point about MSNBC being equal to FOX News, and therefore excusing the terrible things that are said on FOX.

**Breotan**

Well, I guess 23 days this isn't a necro. Still, I'm thinking we're getting almost enough from MSNBC lately to warrant a dedicated thread.

I'm pretty sure this square on the Dakka bingo card is really worn by now.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/msnbc-apologizes-for-controversial-tweet-about-conservatives-and-cheerios_b211908

Jordan Chariton wrote:MSNBC Apologizes for Controversial Tweet About Conservatives and Cheerios

MSNBC’s official Twitter account deleted a tweet last night that suggested conservatives wouldn’t like a new Cheerios commercial featuring an interracial family set to air during the Super Bowl.

“Maybe the rightwing will hate it, but everyone else will go awww: the adorable new #Cheerios ad w/ biracial family,” read the tweet, which linked to an MSNBC.com story on the new ad.

MSNBC Twitter wrote:Earlier, this account tweeted an offensive line about the new Cheerios ad. We deeply regret it. It does not reflect the position of msnbc.
MSNBC Twitter wrote:We are deleting the earlier offensive tweet. It does not reflect msnbc's position and we apologize.
The tweet was playing off the 2013 firestorm created over a similar Cheerios ad with the same interracial family. That ad generated such vile reaction online, the YouTube comments section was closed.

We’ve reached out to MSNBC for comment, but did not immediately get a response.

>Update: RNC Chairman Reince Priebus has sent MSNBC President Phil Griffin a letter informing him he has banned RNC officials from appearing on MSNBC until Griffin personally and publicly apologizes.

>Update: MSNBC has fired the author of the tweet, and Phil Griffin has apologized to Reince Priebus.

Oh, one more thing. Apparently the RNC Chairman is calling for a boycott of MSNBC. The problem facing him is, how do you boycott something that nobody watches anyway?

**djones520**

They already apologized, and fired the guy responsible.

It took them less then 24 hours this time. I think the heads are starting to smarten up a bit about this.

**Jihadin**

Under the impression MSNBC is like it is on its last leg currently

**Frazzled**

MSNBC, what happens when NBC, WAPO, and NYT reporters get together and have a few drinks..

**Goliath**

djones520 wrote:
They already apologized, and fired the guy responsible.

It took them less then 24 hours this time. I think the heads are starting to smarten up a bit about this.

And yet when someone writes a book calling all liberals treasonous, they get a regular show on Fox News.

I seriously disagree with the fact that MSNBC apologised for that, and the fact that Fox News et al. like to get all offended at tiny little statements like this is a massive hypocrisy.

**whembly**

Goliath wrote:
djones520 wrote:
They already apologized, and fired the guy responsible.

It took them less then 24 hours this time. I think the heads are starting to smarten up a bit about this.
And yet when someone writes a book calling all liberals treasonous, they get a regular show on Fox News.

I seriously disagree with the fact that MSNBC apologised for that, and the fact that Fox News et al. like to get all offended at tiny little statements like this is a massive hypocrisy.

You disagree with MSNBC calling right-wringers racist?

All I see from fox is the usual bombastic boilerplate crap that is politics. The MSNBC staff? Craptastic gak dude.

Fact of that matter is that MSNBC has a pattern of racial, intolerant views that very unbecoming to a supposedly news organization.

Everything from Melissa Harris-Perry making fun of the Romney family in adopting a black child...

to... Martin Bashir saying "that someone should defecate and urinate in Palin's mouth"...

to... the other progressive whackadoos, such as Ed Shultz, Lawrence O'Donnell, Chris Matthews, Alec Baldwin, Al Sharpton, and Rachel Maddow... they should be an embarrassment to other progressives in the media.

Oh... and why should the RNC boycott them? Why not just appear on MSNBC and interrogate their ultrapartisan goons about their ridiculous view of the world? Make 'em own it.

**Kanluwen**

Is "boilerplate" the Republican Word of the Week?

**d-usa**

Pretending that the two channels are not the exact same thing using the exact same tactics on the opposite end of the political spectrum is pretty indicative of people's own bias.

**Frazzled**

Kanluwen wrote:
Is "boilerplate" the Republican Word of the Week?

its a legal phrase actually, unless you work in the boiler industry in which its...wait for it...plate steel!

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d-usa wrote:
Pretending that the two channels are not the exact same thing using the exact same tactics on the opposite end of the political spectrum is pretty indicative of people's own bias.

Please cite actual racist remarks made by paid Feaux News members.

**djones520**

d-usa wrote:
Pretending that the two channels are not the exact same thing using the exact same tactics on the opposite end of the political spectrum is pretty indicative of people's own bias.

Pretending that they are the same exact thing is just silly.

**whembly**

d-usa wrote:
Pretending that the two channels are not the exact same thing using the exact same tactics on the opposite end of the political spectrum is pretty indicative of people's own bias.

Just out of curiosity, since the only way you can affirmatively make that statement, can you care to point out any FOX host saying similar things as:
A) Melissa Harris-Perry making fun of the fact that the Romneys adopted a black child
and
B) Martin Bashir's statement of defecating/urinating in your ideological opponent's mouth?

*Disclaimer: I don't watch FoxNews, but I'd be will to bet that had someone said that, there would be a massive, epic Please don't bypass the language filter like this. Reds8n

**d-usa**

whembly wrote:
d-usa wrote:
Pretending that the two channels are not the exact same thing using the exact same tactics on the opposite end of the political spectrum is pretty indicative of people's own bias.

Just out of curiosity, since the only way you can affirmatively make that statement, can you care to point out any FOX host saying similar things as:

So if I find a random hand-picked list of stupid crap said by people on FoxNews that doesn't have the exact same occurance on MSNBC FoxNews will be automatically worse?

A) Melissa Harris-Perry making fun of the fact that the Romneys adopted a black child

A vast variety of race-related statements come to mind:

Calling Michele Obama the President's "baby mama".
Telling people that Santa Clause and Jesus were white and non-white people just have to deal with that.

FoxNews isn't exactly known for their racial tolerance.

and
B) Martin Bashir's statement of defecating/urinating in your ideological opponent's mouth?

He ~~got fired~~ resigned. MSNBC punished him for the crap he said. Are you angry that MSNBC didn't get their broadcasting license pulled?

*Disclaimer: I don't watch FoxNews, but I'd be will to bet that had someone said that, there would be a massive, epic fallout.

"I don't watch FoxNews, but the conservative blogs I get my information from never complain about FoxNews so they must not be saying anything bad unlike MSNBC."

**Ouze**

Hey guys, remember when Fox News greatly supported the idea that our first black President was probably not an American citizen?

I am sure there was absolutely, like.... zero racism in that idea.

**whembly**

Ouze wrote:
Hey guys, remember when Fox News greatly supported the idea that our first black President was probably not an American citizen?

I am sure there was absolutely, like.... zero racism in that idea.

Why would it have to be racism to suspect that he's not an American citizen? (obviously, he is since his mom is an American. It's the same crap the truthers tried to pull on McCain or Rubio).

Shouldn't it be, we're going to investigate the crap out of him because he's generally our ideological opponent?

Which is what all cables news show does.

Do I wish a news channel to be truly "fair and balanced"... of course. But, frankly that'll never happen because the business model won't allow it

**d-usa**

whembly wrote:
Ouze wrote:
Hey guys, remember when Fox News greatly supported the idea that our first black President was probably not an American citizen?

I am sure there was absolutely, like.... zero racism in that idea.

Why would it have to be racism to suspect that he's not an American citizen?

Does it have to be? Nope.

But when they keep on talking about how the ~~black guy~~ candidate is really from ~~black country from black continent~~ Kenya then you can make your own conclusion.

But then again I'm sure you know all about the exact motivations of the channel that you don't even watch.

Edit: In before "talking bad about the President is automatically racism" rant...

**Frazzled**

Ouze wrote:
Hey guys, remember when Fox News greatly supported the idea that our first black President was probably not an American citizen?

I am sure there was absolutely, like.... zero racism in that idea.

Considering there's strong evidence Obama said the same earlier in his career -as evidenced by his book publisher et al- the argument is a little cloudy.

Additionally the same argument was tried against McCain but it was pre-empted by Congress as it was stupid.

But thats your best argument?