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 mega_bassist wrote:
Hmmm, looks pretty interesting.

I think it looks very poor.

Looks like a spin on Ironclad Tactics.

Not really my sort of thing. Total Biscuit will no doubt do a WFT Is...? on it, as he loves 40K, so I'll wait for that.

It's on Steam now, pre-order gets you into beta.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/254650/

For $10? No thanks.

Is that sarcasm? $10 isn't that much.

 mega_bassist wrote:
For $10? No thanks.

$10 for a game, with no micro-transactions. How cheap are you?

Pretty cheap, apparently

10 bucks for beta access to what essentialy boils down to a mobile game is pretty expensive.

After Space Hulk, I think I'm gonna wait for Metacritic reviews on this one.

I am intrigued by what I have seen so far though.

Uhh... you listen to metacritic? The review equivalent of a million monkeys at a million typewriters?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Uhh... you listen to metacritic? The review equivalent of a million monkeys at a million typewriters?

Not even that, a million biased monkies following 'other important' monkies more like it. I've seen games vote bombed because someone important didn't like it, or like the company of heroes 2 example.

 Soladrin wrote:
10 bucks for beta access to what essentialy boils down to a mobile game is pretty expensive.

Exactly how I feel about it. Hell, Reaper was originally a mobile game, and it's only $5. Not to mention that it looks much nicer, and has been pretty fun.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Uhh... you listen to metacritic? The review equivalent of a million monkeys at a million typewriters?

I generally think I can get a good feel for the game from there. Good reviews will let you know if you will like it, even if the reviewer did not.

I'm mildly concerned that these were the same guys that made Ride to hell: Retribution, arguably the worst game in 2013 (unless I'm mistaken). That isn't helping my confidence to be honest unless some serious lessons were learned.

That, and £9 for a mobile game is putting off impulse purchases. I happily paid £11 for Final Fantasy 4 because it was a full-blown RPG. This however, as far as I know from reviews, is plants VS zombies but in 40k. Eeeeeh...

 Ouze wrote:
I generally think I can get a good feel for the game from there. Good reviews will let you know if you will like it, even if the reviewer did not.

Yeah but that's precisely my point. Metacritic isn't a good way of showing good reviews. Fanboys will jump on that site and give max scores to games they like, even if they haven't played it yet. At the same time games can get their scores tanked by angry fans. You are far, far better off watching detailed independent reviews and analysis than you are a mass conglomerate website that can be abused and misused.



And that is as hipster as you will ever see me. I need to take a shower…

Ranor wrote:
That, and £9 for a mobile game is putting off impulse purchases. I happily paid £11 for Final Fantasy 4 because it was a full-blown RPG.

Hi, the game is £6.99 not £9.

 Kentonio wrote:

Ranor wrote:
That, and £9 for a mobile game is putting off impulse purchases. I happily paid £11 for Final Fantasy 4 because it was a full-blown RPG.

Hi, the game is £6.99 not £9.

Ah, my mistake.

If I can ask, aside from the 40k licence and a lack of micro transactions, what sets this apart from other games of a similar type or genre?

Turns out the game is also a direct copy/paste of Ninja Cats VS Samurai Dogs with only a (Less appealing) art change and an obviously lower amount of effort put into the atheistic. I sincerely hope during the beta (if it is one) that you take all feedback on board and improve the game quite significantly, because aside from the 40k licence it seems to have nothing going for it.

Alot of these new 40k titles have some pretty nice, faithful to the miniatures, graphics. This particular title even has some decent animations and sound effects. More's the pity that they aren't combined with more engaging gameplay experiences.

Totalbiscuit the Cyinical brit takes a look at the history of Warhammer 40k video games, and a look into the newest title: Warhammer 40k Storm of Vengeance. He makes a fair few points about how the new game is a clone of the game 'Cat Ninjas vs Samurai Dogs' with a re-skin into Warhammer 40k.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGXsOorkgpg&feature=player_detailpage

wow, this is made by the people who made ride to hell? feth these guys and their game, go screw another game over!


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also, what happened to the facebook titan game?

And there's the quote:

“In the grim darkness of the far future there are only horrible video games and a license being dragged through the mud.” – Total Biscuit on Storm of Vengeance

Does kinda sum up GW when you consider they allowed this piece of gak to be made and they also cracked down hard on some promising fan made stuff which wouldn't have cost them a thing.

Not only did TB do an awesome summary of 40k video games, he gave a highly entertaining rant on this game. Charging $10 for it on PC is insulting. As a $1 game that you can play on the golden throne... it's generic but maybe worthwhile though I'd probably still avoid as it doesn't even seem good at what it does.

By Tau what is this!

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
Totalbiscuit the Cyinical brit takes a look at the history of Warhammer 40k video games, and a look into the newest title: Warhammer 40k Storm of Vengeance. He makes a fair few points about how the new game is a clone of the game 'Cat Ninjas vs Samurai Dogs' with a re-skin into Warhammer 40k.

It's not a reskin of Ninja Cats, it's a complete new project that has taken a full development team over six months of hard work to create. If people don't like it then that is of course completely fair of them to say, but calling it a reskin does a disservice to some very dedicated and hard working people.

 Kentonio wrote:

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
Totalbiscuit the Cyinical brit takes a look at the history of Warhammer 40k video games, and a look into the newest title: Warhammer 40k Storm of Vengeance. He makes a fair few points about how the new game is a clone of the game 'Cat Ninjas vs Samurai Dogs' with a re-skin into Warhammer 40k.

It's not a reskin of Ninja Cats, it's a complete new project that has taken a full development team over six months of hard work to create. If people don't like it then that is of course completely fair of them to say, but calling it a reskin does a disservice to some very dedicated and hard working people.

Didn't someone from the studio themselves say it was a direct clone..?

 Soladrin wrote:

 Kentonio wrote:

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
Totalbiscuit the Cyinical brit takes a look at the history of Warhammer 40k video games, and a look into the newest title: Warhammer 40k Storm of Vengeance. He makes a fair few points about how the new game is a clone of the game 'Cat Ninjas vs Samurai Dogs' with a re-skin into Warhammer 40k.

It's not a reskin of Ninja Cats, it's a complete new project that has taken a full development team over six months of hard work to create. If people don't like it then that is of course completely fair of them to say, but calling it a reskin does a disservice to some very dedicated and hard working people.

Didn't someone from the studio themselves say it was a direct clone..?

No. Ninja Cats was our game to test out the style of gameplay and experiment with how well different things worked. It reviewed extremely well, so we used what we'd learned to build Storm of Vengeance.

 Soladrin wrote:

 Kentonio wrote:

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
Totalbiscuit the Cyinical brit takes a look at the history of Warhammer 40k video games, and a look into the newest title: Warhammer 40k Storm of Vengeance. He makes a fair few points about how the new game is a clone of the game 'Cat Ninjas vs Samurai Dogs' with a re-skin into Warhammer 40k.

It's not a reskin of Ninja Cats, it's a complete new project that has taken a full development team over six months of hard work to create. If people don't like it then that is of course completely fair of them to say, but calling it a reskin does a disservice to some very dedicated and hard working people.

Didn't someone from the studio themselves say it was a direct clone..?

I believe they did...
There's nothing wrong with building on old works of course, many studios use assets and inspiration from earlier games.
However, this does appear to be merely a 3D reskinned version of Cat ninjas vs Samurai Dogs. The gameplay mechanics are identical and frankly really boring.

 Soladrin wrote:

 Kentonio wrote:

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
Totalbiscuit the Cyinical brit takes a look at the history of Warhammer 40k video games, and a look into the newest title: Warhammer 40k Storm of Vengeance. He makes a fair few points about how the new game is a clone of the game 'Cat Ninjas vs Samurai Dogs' with a re-skin into Warhammer 40k.

It's not a reskin of Ninja Cats, it's a complete new project that has taken a full development team over six months of hard work to create. If people don't like it then that is of course completely fair of them to say, but calling it a reskin does a disservice to some very dedicated and hard working people.

Didn't someone from the studio themselves say it was a direct clone..?

Apparently so. I don't where the message is lurking so I can't find it.

@Kentonio: While we, the 40k community, appreciate the time and effort that you and your team has spent on making a 40k game, is it not an interesting problem where a direct footage comparison of your game VS a previous title of yours is show near-identical interface, gameplay and customisation? It doesn't bode well when it appears, to the customer, that your dev team decided to reuse assets from an existing game then slap a 40k makeover on it and charge lots more.

 Juvieus Kaine wrote:
@Kentonio: While we, the 40k community, appreciate the time and effort that you and your team has spent on making a 40k game, is it not an interesting problem where a direct footage comparison of your game VS a previous title of yours is show near-identical interface, gameplay and customisation? It doesn't bode well when it appears, to the customer, that your dev team decided to reuse assets from an existing game then slap a 40k makeover on it and charge lots more.

It's just one of those things that I don't think is really a fair judgement on the game. We've never tried to conceal in any way that Storm of Vengeance is an evolution of Ninja Cats, in fact we discussed it quite openly. We pointed out that we took gameplay we'd previously tested with Ninja Cats and built a lot more on top of it for SOV, including building the game in 3D (which is far from a small task) and the entire cross platform multiplayer system (which isn't exactly an industry standard).

We're genuinely talking about over six months of hard work by a sizable development team. We don't want to come out and start waving our fists in the air and shouting and wailing about it, but you can understand I hope why it's quite a frustrating thing for us. We're releasing Storm of Vengeance at what we think is a pretty reasonable price point (£6.99 on Steam) that we think is fully justified by the huge amount of man hours of development the project has taken.