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 SarisKhan wrote:
I've noticed that the Khornate Helbrute is below the Tzeentchian, but there's another variant that I think doesn't match either of those partially shown below the Nurgle one. Is that the unseen Slaaneshi Helbrute?

Anyone else has the impression that Slaanesh is given the least amount of love from GW and FW? Which is ironic, to be honest...

Well, it could be either the Slaanesh version or an unaligned one. Pics appear to have come out via 4chan, so we'll have to wait for a second source to get access to Visions #2 for more images / confirmation.

Well rules gripes aside I'll definitely be getting more than one just to paint them, I loved the aesthetic of the new Helbrute in DV.

So that's seven different plastic Space Marine Dreadnoughts now?

Those kits look great!

Hopefully they'll get some updated rules too...

 kronk wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
I don't remember the actual wargear option for helbrutes, but that Thousand Sons one seems to be wielding a thunderhammer and ectoplasma cannon.

Is that even allowed? Anything in the pics not in line with the codex options? If so, they may be getting a rules update as well...

I think that's a Plasma Cannon, not an Ectoplasma Cannon. That's a legal Helbrute.

Helbrute Close Combat Options: Thunderhammer, Power Scourge, Power Fist.

Helbrute Shooty Options: Multi-melta, TL-Heavey Bolter, Reaper Autocannon, Plasma Cannon, TL-Lascannon, Missile Launcher.

Ops. My bad. The other 'brutes seem to be legally outfitted, too. Still, here's me hoping they get a rules upgrade of sorts.

P.s. No more "organic" splayed feet! Cool.

 AlexHolker wrote:
So that's seven different plastic Space Marine Dreadnoughts now?

If you're lumping Chaos in with the normal Space Marines, sure. But that's silly.

But don't forget that there are 12 more CSM Dreadnoughts, if you count the Decimater, at Forge World. There are 14 more Space Marines ones at Forge World if you count the contemptors, also at Forge World.

I'm glad they stuck with the aesthetic of the Dark Vengeance Chaos forces.

I thought the Dark Vengeance models looked incredible but was disappointed by the future Chaos release (i.e. Forgefiend, Helldrake), which I felt looked less like warped flesh-metal creations and more like dino-bots. These new hellbrutes are looking pretty stylish if you ask me!

Oh man, I'm really excited about that Nurgle one. The right handed power fist? Oh YES!!

The new models are cool. I really like the look, though for alpha legion you better just take loyalist dreads. With this rampant demonization and mutations everywhere on the new kits its almost impossible to build a traitorous army that doesnt look like it spent its whole vacations in the eye of terror.

Slipknotzim wrote:
they look real/ i hope there real, and then made in to MC insted of walkers cause my hellbrute makes me sad.

That would make no sense though, a helbrute is a dreadnought. A walker. The one that should be a MC is the forgefiend and maulerfiiend.

Can't tell you how many times I've blown those suckers up.

 Kosake wrote:
The new models are cool. I really like the look, though for alpha legion you better just take loyalist dreads. With this rampant demonization and mutations everywhere on the new kits its almost impossible to build a traitorous army that doesnt look like it spent its whole vacations in the eye of terror.

I have to agree; I always liked the Traitor Legions that didn't have all the crazy mutations; the ones that just looked like archaic/ancient 10,000 year old Space Marines versus "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M A MUTANT RAWR!" which I always thought was more appropriate for the "Big Four" aligned legions.

The worst part is that to get that look, you have to spend twice as much on Forgeworld stuff, which are even crazier priced than the normal GW kits.

Holy bleep! It's happening. Does this mean those other rumors about a Cultist / Zombie kit, a Chosen kit, and other Chaos-related rumors are actually true?

I hope there will be a Noise Brute.

@WayneTheGame - Well, Helbrutes are specifically very corrupt dreadnoughts, so all the eyes and teeth everywhere kind of fit the new fluff. They aren't as simple as "evil dreadnoughts". So, that helps. Your general point is right though, the trend is towards baroque, spiky, and mutated right now. I think you can get quite a long way kitbashing the plastic vanilla marine and chaos marine kits, though, for that more subtle look. You don't have to go straight to forgeworld.

I still have 3 DV Helbrutes lying around unassembled. I hope it won't be too much work to integrate the spare heads from the new kit. All 4 different for the price of 1!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I still have 3 DV Helbrutes lying around unassembled. I hope it won't be too much work to integrate the spare heads from the new kit. All 4 different for the price of 1!

That's a pretty smart way to play this. A spare plastic monopose Helbrute, blinged up from the spares from the new multipart kit, definitely seems like value for money.

Damn you GW for your continuation of the awesome model with gakky rules cycle!!!

They look pretty nice, they should get a rule update though...

Just give Chaos some drop pods for helbrutes, or let them demonically deepstrike or something, and BAM! Instant fix.

Exactly what about these are god specific? It looks like another generic chaos kit.

They need more then that.

Either give them-Deamonic Possesion, the model gains the Deamon USR and ignores SHaken and Stunned damage on a 2+.

Or a Ironclad Variant type with Av 13 and some neat options.

Joyboozer wrote:
Exactly what about these are god specific? It looks like another generic chaos kit.

The clear, Tzeentch, and Khorne bits? The Nurgle paintjob looks less god specific, but the Tzeentch and Khorne ones are clear.

So this makes the rumors of 7th more likely as well. Not just a 6th repackage as it appears they are finally getting around to making the kits only available in DV.

They look awsome. Now bring on the Chosen and Havoc kits!

rollawaythestone wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Exactly what about these are god specific? It looks like another generic chaos kit.

The clear, Tzeentch, and Khorne bits? The Nurgle paintjob looks less god specific, but the Tzeentch and Khorne ones are clear.

Ummm. hate to burst your bubble but their are no god specific bits on any of them. Its merely the color schemes.

 Red Corsair wrote:
So this makes the rumors of 7th more likely as well. Not just a 6th repackage as it appears they are finally getting around to making the kits only available in DV.

If by 7th edition means a rules patch and a few second wave releases, right. It would make no sense to scrap 6th completely when you've been blitzing out codicies and you still aren't done with the release cycle. I can't wait for the rest of the 2nd wave chaos models, they are going to look awesome.

rollawaythestone wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Exactly what about these are god specific? It looks like another generic chaos kit.

The clear, Tzeentch, and Khorne bits? The Nurgle paintjob looks less god specific, but the Tzeentch and Khorne ones are clear.

Clear how? There are no symbols, as far as I can see, three heads and different bits to go near the head. The only other difference is colour.

 ace101 wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
So this makes the rumors of 7th more likely as well. Not just a 6th repackage as it appears they are finally getting around to making the kits only available in DV.

If by 7th edition means a rules patch and a few second wave releases, right. It would make no sense to scrap 6th completely when you've been blitzing out codicies and you still aren't done with the release cycle. I can't wait for the rest of the 2nd wave chaos models, they are going to look awesome.

A rules patch is a rewrite when your talking about GW. Also since when does the edition mean a codex is irrelevant. Have you been in the hobby long? I ask because they have not produced an edition with a fully current line of army books in at least 15 years.

The 7th ed rumours have their own thread here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/570012.page

Saying "Here's a Helbrute, currently those are only available in DV, that lends weight to the 7th ed rumours" is a biiiiig stretch. Bigbig. But at any rate, that's the place for it.

Look great, but sadly, like the dwarf book, bad rules don't warrant a purchase :(

Maybe as "counts-as" marine dreads?