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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:22:14
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Nope.
Not for a while, anyway. Don't get a lot of games in anyway, and currently am playing a fanmade version of killteam right now anyway, which will take a bit to update itself to 7th and is working nicely with 6th. I have other priorities than squandering $100+ on new rules/cards I'm not going to get too much use out of.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:31:01
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
Pennsylvania
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2 reasons: 1st I want to get full reviews of the book before I jump in. So far all of the leaks I've seen do not have me excited at all for 7th edition
2nd I am waiting for the minibook or to split a DV set with someone. I refuse to pay GW 85.00 for what appears to be at least 80% copy/paste or slight rewrite and a full book of pictures that I am never going to open
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:32:10
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Saint Louis Mo
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I'm waiting to read the rules before I decide. That being said I'm not buying a rule book off the bat unless I can find JUST the RULES BOOK on e-bay for a reasonable price. I refuse to spend $85 for a codex size rule book and 2 books of fluff and pictures. That being said depending on what the new edition brings I may be selling my nids and buying a guitar. I've always wanted to learn how to play guitar and the best part is I wont have to worry about a new edition of rules coming out every 6 months....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:34:25
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
UK
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I won't be I didn't enjoy 6th and 7th sounds like more of the same, the lack of info on combat worries me and if you still can't assault out of transports I'll be quitting the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:39:00
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Not purchasing it until there is a starter set. Any time I've purchased a BRB, I've always regretted it when the starter came out.
If the starter is lame or poor value, then I will skip 7th ed completely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:46:06
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Cackling Chaos Conscript
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pm713 wrote:Not bothered with 7th. All it means for me is a chance to get into Fantasy.
Actually this is pretty accurate too, now is a great time for me to try out fantasy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:48:28
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Buttons Should Be Brass, Not Gold!
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I wont get it cos I still play 1st and 2nd editions... never bothered after that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:50:54
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
Charleston, SC
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I want 7th edition to fix a lot of the issues inherent in 40k, and will watch reviews with interest after the book releases, but thus far it looks grim. The same stagnant game with another new face.
Meanwhile there are more dynamic games available to play that cost a lot less.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:53:45
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Nightwolf829 wrote:I want 7th edition to fix a lot of the issues inherent in 40k, and will watch reviews with interest after the book releases, but thus far it looks grim. The same stagnant game with another new face.
Meanwhile there are more dynamic games available to play that cost a lot less.
Hey I'm open to new game ideas!! Name a few please!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:57:44
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Cosmic Joe
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DarkWind wrote: Nightwolf829 wrote:I want 7th edition to fix a lot of the issues inherent in 40k, and will watch reviews with interest after the book releases, but thus far it looks grim. The same stagnant game with another new face.
Meanwhile there are more dynamic games available to play that cost a lot less.
Hey I'm open to new game ideas!! Name a few please!!
Warmachine is a steampunkish fantasy game that has very tight rules. It's more skirmish game but can accomodate larger battles. There are many playstyles with the different factions and many playstyles within those factions. The fluff is great and surprisingly in depth. (check out the Iron Kingdoms RPG stuff.)
Infinity is a cool sci-fi skirmisher with very high quality metal figures. Each person is very individual with assorted powers and abilities. It's very tactical and fun.
Malifaux is a victorian fantasy horror type skirmish game with a lot of character and flair. It's very balanced and a load of fun.
(those are the three that have my attention. Drop Zone Commander, Dust, Flames of War I hear nothing but good things about but have never played.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:01:51
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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Because as a company GW has given up on making rules that work or even pretend do have some balance in them, so I have given up on them.
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warhammer 40k mmo. If I can drive an ork trukk into the back of a space marine dread and explode in a fireball of epic, I can die happy!
8k points
3k points
3k points
Admech 2.5k points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:06:24
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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6th edition made me stop playing the game, all these 7th rumours made me realise that the game will never again be anything worth playing so I finally got the push that I needed to sell of my remaining 40k army (Imperial Guard, that I had been collecting since 1996). So no, I won't be bothering with 7th ed.
On the positive side, I now have allot of free shelf space in the old cave and a significant amount of cash burning a hole in my pocket, maybe I'll get a 5th WMH faction, or another Malifaux or Infinity army... Or maybe I'll finally get into Saga... Thankfully the hobby is now full of possibilities.
Now all I need is for GW to release WHFB 9th ed rumours, so that I get a similar push to sell my remaining Fantasy army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:07:01
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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DarkWind wrote: Nightwolf829 wrote:I want 7th edition to fix a lot of the issues inherent in 40k, and will watch reviews with interest after the book releases, but thus far it looks grim. The same stagnant game with another new face.
Meanwhile there are more dynamic games available to play that cost a lot less.
Hey I'm open to new game ideas!! Name a few please!!
Lord of the Rings is still an awesome light-fantasy skirmish game, though wouldn't be any less xpensive to get into.
Hail Caesar is an awesome system for historical gaming.
D&D Battle System is always there to do with whatever you like, though its a bit free-form for most people's tastes, its a solid system. Pretty sure LOTR just ripped off point values straight from that book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:17:25
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Mighty Vampire Count
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I refuse to buy it unitll seen whats in it.......all at our club are the same - then we will decide what version to play
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:27:21
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Saint Louis Mo
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MWHistorian wrote: DarkWind wrote: Nightwolf829 wrote:I want 7th edition to fix a lot of the issues inherent in 40k, and will watch reviews with interest after the book releases, but thus far it looks grim. The same stagnant game with another new face.
Meanwhile there are more dynamic games available to play that cost a lot less.
Hey I'm open to new game ideas!! Name a few please!!
Warmachine is a steampunkish fantasy game that has very tight rules. It's more skirmish game but can accomodate larger battles. There are many playstyles with the different factions and many playstyles within those factions. The fluff is great and surprisingly in depth. (check out the Iron Kingdoms RPG stuff.)
Infinity is a cool sci-fi skirmisher with very high quality metal figures. Each person is very individual with assorted powers and abilities. It's very tactical and fun.
Malifaux is a victorian fantasy horror type skirmish game with a lot of character and flair. It's very balanced and a load of fun.
(those are the three that have my attention. Drop Zone Commander, Dust, Flames of War I hear nothing but good things about but have never played.)
I have a small Warmachine army of Menoth my group plays it on the side every now and then but we haven't explored much into it due to lack of local support.
I keep hearing about Infinity, but I don't know much about it. I really need to look more into it. I've seen the models and I have to say I prefer them over GW models any day.
Malifaux sadly died around here as quickly as it came onto the scene. I bought a starter box and a fate deck for that game and I didn't play more then a couple games. Which sucks I liked my gunslinger zombie army I was playing the Guild and I bought the Judge set.
I do play FOW religiously and I have to say it's an excellent game. The rules make since and theirs no one army to rule them all. A tank army can win just as easily as an Infantry army. Even tho it's based on WW2 I think it's variety of rule books lets you build to your play style even tho you have to stay within a cretin limit of what you can and can't take. Also start up is easy and cost effective depending on what time period you want to play and what type of army you want to build. 2 starter boxes gives you 2 full armies (one Allied Tank army, and one German infantry army) and forms a great building block!
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jasper76 wrote: DarkWind wrote: Nightwolf829 wrote:I want 7th edition to fix a lot of the issues inherent in 40k, and will watch reviews with interest after the book releases, but thus far it looks grim. The same stagnant game with another new face.
Meanwhile there are more dynamic games available to play that cost a lot less.
Hey I'm open to new game ideas!! Name a few please!!
Hail Caesar is an awesome system for historical gaming.
I've been looking at this game. I play Bolt Action on a 15 MM scale (The game is better for Pacific war then FOW IMO) however I've always wanted to dive into ancients.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:36:14
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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I think that I might, finally, be done with 40K. From what's been leaked so far, I just... really don't like anything at all that I've heard about 7th ed.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:38:59
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Jervis Johnson
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I've been playing since 1990, and I sold all my remaining armies at the end of last year. The game has been in a steady decline for about a decade already, and 7th will only make it worse. Like others have said, the will to design an actual strategy based tabletop war-game simply isn't there at GW, and all their releases are blatant cash grabs. I see no reason to spend a dollar more on any Games Workshop products ever. I'm sure I spent about 20K-30K $ on GW products during my time, so I did my part.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:42:49
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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None of the other wargames interest me model or lorewise.
So I'll continue to stay with my ridiculous investment into 40k and FB.
Me and my friends essentially created our own game system anyway so we can keep on playing in the 40k setting with none of GW's idiocy so I have no motivation to get rid of my models anyway.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:49:07
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
South West UK
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jasper76 wrote: knas ser wrote: If lots of people are saying "wow - this fixes so much", I'll buy it. If they're saying: "everything is still broken" or "this introduces a load of new problems"
Sure bet = you will hear all 3 of these things.
Ha! I was thinking that when I wrote it. Let me rephrase: if people whose opinions I respect are saying these things...
And seeing as this thread is turning into a "Recommend an alternative" thread, I might as well mention I like the look of the X-Wing game. I'm not especially a fan of Star Wars, but from what I've seen of the game it's extremely well thought out and quite tactical. If I can find some people who'll try it, I might give that a go.
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What is best in life?
To wound enemy units, see them driven from the table, and hear the lamentations of their player. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:49:49
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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If it takes off in my group, this will be my reason:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/591822.page
-Tight ruleset, being added to to clear up confusion and to add in more units.
-Faster gameplay
-Balanced
-Free.
- Devs are willing to listen to suggestions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:49:57
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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Nah I'm gonna buy 7th it'll be great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:52:02
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Many reasons for me. 1) Not got any cash or time at the moment. 2) I bought the 6th Ed book 2 years ago, it works fine for what I need and I enjoy playing the game. 6th ain't broken, so doesn't need fixing. 3) I have no interest in Psykers becoming all-out Space Wizards, Librarians crapping out Demons and if I wanted to play Unbound lists I'd already be doing it (And I'm not paying for rules that tell me to ignore the rules for FOC). 4) £50 could buy me into a whole new game. I'm seriously looking at Malifaux as the models and card-based mechanics look really interesting. Failing that, there's a lot of Deadzone on my 'to buy' list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 17:52:11
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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I saw the writing on the wall with the coming of Escalation and Stronghold assault. I have two warhammer 40k armies and i wont be selling them (those things are worth more than gold!)
However what i did do was purchase a old 4th ed rulebook that came with a free BRB for warhammer fantasy (dont know what edition?) Now Im going to switch back to my old 3.5 guard codex and the 4th ed codecs that i have here.
I only play with my brother so its not a problem anyway. I know many people dont like 4th ed but to me that edition was the best!
ive also been getting into warmachine and 28mm INQ with my own warbands. I have 3 already from bits that i own.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 18:00:51
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Grovelin' Grot Rigger
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I'll wait untill I can get the books for like 50$
my 6th ed is still newish
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 18:09:34
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Unshakeable Grey Knight Land Raider Pilot
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I will not be buying the 7th ed book. My reasoning is that I may have opened my 6th ed hardback just to read some fluff and check out the cool artwork. The minute the boxed set came out with awesome minis and the paperback rules, I had ZERO interest in bringing along my hardback. I don't like to repeat my mistakes, so I'll wait.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 18:17:03
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Morphing Obliterator
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No need to hurry.
I am in the same situation than amanita, kain and BladeSwinga: the (few) people I play with use fan-made rules. We will read 7th and see if something is usable, then incorporate it to our rules after tweaking it. If the book is really, really good, I will buy it. Second hand. Reading the rumors I don´t think this is going to be the case.
A couple of people I know play 5th (because flyers & fortifications), and I am actively trying to get people to play a built-from-scratch set of rules I wrote. There are lots of w40k-based fan-made systems being developed or tested right now, which is telling.
And.... I must admit I have zero interest in playing with the people that is rushing to get the book. It seems rather obvious at this point that they are not "fixing" anything: 7th is like the next logical step after the madness that was 6th. Broken armies, unfair games, zero relation with the background, lots of big models, lots of senseless rules, zero balance, a constant need to buy new stuff... It is not the type of game I want to play.
Also, I will probably try Warmachine. Warmachine: Tactics (the videogame) is scheduled for 2014, so it seems a good idea to wait and see. I like the way Cryx looks.
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‘Your warriors will stand down and withdraw, Curze. That is an order, not a request. (…) When this campaign is won, you and I will have words’
Rogal Dorn, just before taking the beating of his life.
from The Dark King, by Graham McNeill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 18:50:28
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
Charleston, SC
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Hey I'm open to new game ideas!! Name a few please!!
The game I have been playing recently is Dropzone Commander, but there are a lot of other great game options as well that many others have already mentioned in this thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 18:58:37
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I will most likely find a copy of the rules this weekend online and read through it. If they have fixed anything (I'd be surprised) I will look into purchasing the mini hard back that will more than likely come out in a couple months. If they screwed this edition as bad as 6th then I will have second thoughts. Most of the people around here either have switched to Fantasy, 30k, or just plain left GW products. The only 40k players left are the young and ignorant or the tournament players.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 19:04:22
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Orlando
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Not in the very near future. I have a 7k game using 6th edition mid next month and I will find out if anyone else has bought the book. Most likely they will have DL'd it. More importantly is a FW FAQ that bridges the gap between 6th and 7th and any potential issues that pop up, especially since I only have a DE and Heresy army.
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If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 19:06:39
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Cosmic Joe
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A game where an Ultramarine can legally summon a demon isn't the same game I used to play.
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