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Yeah agreed, but then there's the guy who

1. Play all day, dailies and 30 wins for ~160 gold/day

2. Spend hundreds

And unfortunately these two groups are the most vocal on the forums and will continue to allow blizzard to have extortionate prices cause they're the same guys who have played Warcraft => WoW etc and are simply lackeys to blizz.

I think 50 gold for a pack with the current gold method or keep packs same price but like 10 gold for a win or 5 gold for a game.

I think a casual player should be able to get 2 packs a day. And I don't mean the casuals of the above groups I mean actual casuals.

 The Dark Apostle wrote:
Yeah agreed, but then there's the guy who

1. Play all day, dailies and 30 wins for ~160 gold/day

2. Spend hundreds

And unfortunately these two groups are the most vocal on the forums and will continue to allow blizzard to have extortionate prices cause they're the same guys who have played Warcraft => WoW etc and are simply lackeys to blizz.

I think 50 gold for a pack with the current gold method or keep packs same price but like 10 gold for a win or 5 gold for a game.

I think a casual player should be able to get 2 packs a day. And I don't mean the casuals of the above groups I mean actual casuals.

Agreed. It takes time though. I don't have a single legendary except from Naxx,which I spent 20$ on because I didn't want to use 700 gold on it.

I payed with gold that I farmed up. So no biggie.

But they already got their cash out of me, I am running a fully golden Control Warrior Deck and Zoo Deck......

So yeah... I paid already.

RJCarrot wrote:
I payed with gold that I farmed up. So no biggie.

But they already got their cash out of me, I am running a fully golden Control Warrior Deck and Zoo Deck......

So yeah... I paid already.

Hahaha

Yeah. I don't have that many golden cards.

I paid out the butt for them, there are a significant amount of legendaries in that deck, it is one of the more expensive competitive decks to build let alone gold out. But I love it, been playing it since beta and still have the same joy out of playing it as I did then. Its just a shame that none of the new cards fit in it as it is already as super tight list.

I'd say if players were to have a method of getting more or even a fluctuating amount of gold that they can control. But no. It's the 100 gold/day and a random figure on the quest.

Do you consider the arena a variable source of gold? I've not advanced beyond 4 wins, but even at that tier it tends to refund 60-80 gold. I'd imagine anyone who can do 12 wins would make money on the procedure.

Yes but someone who can commonly do that is definitely not a casual

LoL, fair enough. I must admit, I've kept up with the gold so far- but I had 500 stockpiled when it was first announced, and haven't missed a quest yet. I really don't know if I will be able to purchase the last wings- I'm presently at 185. It is going to be very close.

That being said, I'm delighted with the quality of the cards so far. I've had more legendaries from Naxx than I ever pulled from packs.

For the record 12 wins will be something like a pack, ~270 gold total, 2 gold rates. So that's two packs and another arena run

 The Dark Apostle wrote:
Yes but someone who can commonly do that is definitely not a casual

Agreed.

I have lost almost every time I have done arena. Its actually cheaper for me just to buy the packs.

Think about that for a moment.

 Gitzbitah wrote:
Do you consider the arena a variable source of gold? I've not advanced beyond 4 wins, but even at that tier it tends to refund 60-80 gold. I'd imagine anyone who can do 12 wins would make money on the procedure.

If you want to go infinite - using the rewards from one arena run to pay for the next arena run - you need seven wins to three losses.

If you just want to get more bang for your buck than buying packs directly, you need five wins to three losses.

Neither of these is viable for the majority of players. You can't win seven times unless other players lose seven times, so the majority of people playing in Arena will come out either worse off or with rewards that are not directly comparable.

Can atone on dakka dakka do that well?

my B.net name is Duce#2284 for those looking games, I've a variety of decks form basic only cards to fully built warrior, paladins etc. so I can play equal footing.

I do agree gold is hard to get, which sucks as It should be 10g a game played 20 for 3 wins to at least accelerate gathering.

 Duce wrote:
my B.net name is Duce#2284 for those looking games, I've a variety of decks form basic only cards to fully built warrior, paladins etc. so I can play equal footing.

I do agree gold is hard to get, which sucks as It should be 10g a game played 20 for 3 wins to at least accelerate gathering.

Nah. I think there should be more quests. Like larger than daily quests, like weekly quests, that should take you more than a day to complete. Like play a hundred games of any type and you get a hundred gold.

Keeping everything low is a great way to prevent someone from abusing the system.

Better yet, I think you should simy get a new quest immediately after finishing one, but you can only get one quest and you get a daily re-roll to get a new quest

 The Dark Apostle wrote:
Better yet, I think you should simy get a new quest immediately after finishing one, but you can only get one quest and you get a daily re-roll to get a new quest

I disagree that this would be a good approach. The current system is better for low volume players, as they can stack up two or three quests and do them all at the same time.

But this way you'll always have a quest to do and a low volume play can just reroll

Construct wings out, seems to have the most game changers out of the cards.

I mean we've got the Warrior Blade, The Priest card, the 1st turn deathrattle buffed guy, Zombie chow, and it being overall decent.

The warrior weapon is awful.... as someone playing warrior since beta I could say this is a waste of a card.

Military quarter had better cards.

a 2/8 that stuffs zoo, a 4/4 for 3.... and spectral knight? are you kidding me?

Yeah the priest card is baller but other than that Military had considerably better cards.

The construction wing I am struggling with :/

Anyone have a suggestion for a good deck to use?

I used from left to right.

paladin, just healed his dmg each turn and tossed down minions to make sure one lived.

mage, went with no minions and just aoe'd down his and then bombed him with spells (Think also used Alex),

paladin, just normal control deck

priest, just for the fun of lightspawns being same hp as dmg then doubling its hp and boom.

RJCarrot wrote:
The warrior weapon is awful.... as someone playing warrior since beta I could say this is a waste of a card.

Military quarter had better cards.

a 2/8 that stuffs zoo, a 4/4 for 3.... and spectral knight? are you kidding me?

Yeah the priest card is baller but other than that Military had considerably better cards.

It's meant to trigger enrages, in which case it's a bomb

 The Dark Apostle wrote:

RJCarrot wrote:
The warrior weapon is awful.... as someone playing warrior since beta I could say this is a waste of a card.

Military quarter had better cards.

a 2/8 that stuffs zoo, a 4/4 for 3.... and spectral knight? are you kidding me?

Yeah the priest card is baller but other than that Military had considerably better cards.

It's meant to trigger enrages, in which case it's a bomb

Whirlwind, enrage and that 2/2 creature with the enrage effect all do this way better.

But now you have it build in to a weapon, a 4/2 weapon

 Soladrin wrote:

 The Dark Apostle wrote:

RJCarrot wrote:
The warrior weapon is awful.... as someone playing warrior since beta I could say this is a waste of a card.

Military quarter had better cards.

a 2/8 that stuffs zoo, a 4/4 for 3.... and spectral knight? are you kidding me?

Yeah the priest card is baller but other than that Military had considerably better cards.

It's meant to trigger enrages, in which case it's a bomb

Whirlwind, enrage and that 2/2 creature with the enrage effect all do this way better.

Multiple paths, though I see this weapon as more of a control weapon thats cheaper then the 5 mana weapon, but still provides a valuable weapon slot that can clear AoE.

The problem Warrior has though is that he desperately needs draw power, out of all the classes he has the worst card (Battle Rage) for drawing out extra's, thus he needs more viability for each draw.

Only draws I can bring myself to use in my warrior are Slam (but got to use on high hp minions which sucks sometimes), shield block and acolyte of pain (combined with Whirlwind, cruel task master or bumping against 1 dmg creatures). The rest just did not seem worth including in the deck.

The deck does need a card based on giving cards for damage you did to a degree.

 Soladrin wrote:

 The Dark Apostle wrote:

RJCarrot wrote:
The warrior weapon is awful.... as someone playing warrior since beta I could say this is a waste of a card.

Military quarter had better cards.

a 2/8 that stuffs zoo, a 4/4 for 3.... and spectral knight? are you kidding me?

Yeah the priest card is baller but other than that Military had considerably better cards.

It's meant to trigger enrages, in which case it's a bomb

Whirlwind, enrage and that 2/2 creature with the enrage effect all do this way better.

not really it has synergy with all enrage monsters and the armor smith. So you hit all your card and you gain all those powers. Then you place a healer and heal everyone back to full health. And do it again

Oh, you can enrage a card multiple times? I did not know that!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Oh, you can enrage a card multiple times? I did not know that!

Not really, only the Gurubashi Beserker has that.

If you have a normal 'Enrage' creature back to full it loses it's effect.

Though the Armorsmith combo + healing can provide a very decent armor buffer.