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Deadly Shot is a good counterpoint or combo for cards like Unleash The Hounds, so you can punish weenie strategies, big guy strategies and combinations of the two. If you don't want to play hunter, don't bother disenchanting it unless you've already got two - it's only worth 5 dust.
I'm a fan of Bloodsail Raider and use it in my Rogue and Paladin decks. For just two mana, it's a powerful force multiplier for cards like Deadly Poison and Truesilver Champion. And even when it's not, it still trades reasonably well.
H.B.M.C. wrote: It's also fairly cheap, and as most people try to kill it quickly its downside isn't that much of a downside.
Yeah, Mage and Paladin can sometimes make you regret playing it but against everyone else if it doesn't die before you start playing minions next turn, it's probably because you're already winning.
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1. Leeroy Jenkins will now cost 5.
2. Starving Buzzard will also cost 5 (up from 2), and gets +1/+1 to compensate.
So from good to totally nerfed in half a second for the Buzzard. I guess Blizzard has been learning game balance from the Games Workshop School of Pendulum Swinging.
H.B.M.C. wrote: So from good to totally nerfed in half a second for the Buzzard. I guess Blizzard has been learning game balance from the Games Workshop School of Pendulum Swinging.
You'd think they might have learned their lesson after dropping UtH straight from 4 to 2. Obviously not.
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
-C.S. Lewis
To be fair, the Buzzard when combo'd with cards like UtH and Hyena was grossly overpowered. But a 3/2 for 5 mana is pretty terrible. A North Shire Cleric is only 1 mana and does pretty much the same thing after all…
Here is what Trump has to say about the upcoming Nerf's
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sarpedons-right-hand wrote: To be fair, the Buzzard when combo'd with cards like UtH and Hyena was grossly overpowered. But a 3/2 for 5 mana is pretty terrible. A North Shire Cleric is only 1 mana and does pretty much the same thing after all...
I was just going to mention the UTH combo. The 5 cost makes that a much less attractive option.
Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
Gwar- "And everyone wants a bigger Spleen!"
Mercurial wrote:
I admire your aplomb and instate you as Baron of the Seas and Lord Marshall of Privateers.
Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.
sarpedons-right-hand wrote: To be fair, the Buzzard when combo'd with cards like UtH and Hyena was grossly overpowered. But a 3/2 for 5 mana is pretty terrible. A North Shire Cleric is only 1 mana and does pretty much the same thing after all...
I was just going to mention the UTH combo. The 5 cost makes that a much less attractive option.
According to trump and a few others it could mean the 'death' of Hunter in the meta completely. I know that every Hunter deck I ever run, and every Hunter deck that I come across (outside of Arena that's every other game) runs that card plus UtH to brilliant effect. Without it Hunter is a less viable option to be sure. Who wants to wait until turn 8 to run a combo that draws cards? Not me. Card draw is so much better early game.
Woah, the buzzard is kind of useless now. It is only very very slightly more durable, but it is way harder to get card draws out of it. I mean, how many beasts are you going to be able to summon on the turn you spent 5 mana on the buzzard? And the next turn, if your opponent has 5/6 mana available, how is he or she not going to be able to kill that 3/2 if he/she wants to?
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H.B.M.C. wrote: It's their main card-draw mechanic. Yes, it was too easy and overpowered, but I agree with Trump, the change is too much and it kills the card.
Problem is many main card draw mechanics aren't use.
Battle Rage
Divine Favor (only used in shockadins and even then it's falling out of favor due to aggro "vomit your hand" decks making it useless)
Mana Tide (While used, it often doesn't do much)
Mana Tide is too easy to kill, and requires set up. Divine Favour relies on your opponent's hand (and is one of the reasons why Paladins are a lesser class - their draw is terrible).
Manatide is too easy to shut down. With the plethora of Silence cards and things like Crazed Alchemist (which is an auto include in all of my decks because of totems like Mana Tide and Flame Tongue) it's just not as effective as Buzzard + UtH used to be.
Although it's always worth taking one in a Shaman deck. Just as its always worth taking Nat Pagle in every deck too.
As an aside (and a change of subject), the rumored expansion is coming. Does anyone think it'll be based around 'The Burning Crusade'?
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sarpedons-right-hand wrote: Manatide is too easy to shut down. With the plethora of Silence cards and things like Crazed Alchemist (which is an auto include in all of my decks because of totems like Mana Tide and Flame Tongue) it's just not as effective as Buzzard + UtH used to be.
Although it's always worth taking one in a Shaman deck. Just as its always worth taking Nat Pagle in every deck too.
As an aside (and a change of subject), the rumored expansion is coming. Does anyone think it'll be based around 'The Burning Crusade'?
I wonder if they can theme that tightly. After all, the first set has elements from every expansion. Naxxramas was an example of going really granular, and picking up every card you could from an expansion. A Draenor expansion would open the door for new content and many of the denizens of Draenor that haven't really been used yet. I can also see Northrend being another expansion, but they'd have to release death knight for that- although a card like Lord Jaraxxis that turns the hero into the Death Knight would be acceptable- especially if it was Frostmourne. anyways, my money is on geographic region, rather than specific expansion or world event.
Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
Gwar- "And everyone wants a bigger Spleen!"
Mercurial wrote:
I admire your aplomb and instate you as Baron of the Seas and Lord Marshall of Privateers.
Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.
Ancestral Spirit/Reincarnate is just mean. There's a video on Trolden's page (on YouTube) where someone uses that (plus Baron Riventhingo) to get, I think, 6 Leeroys in one turn?
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AdeptSister wrote: I wonder how long it will take the meta to settle out.
Well you've gotta wait till the 22nd, when the Hunter Nerf comes into effect, Thank god, because having a single turn pullaround that nobody can really beat was Toxic as feth.
I built a pally rush deck with the entire idea being to buff Angry Chickens enough that they could use their Enrage ability, and then finish with Leeroy Jenkins.
Whenever it works, I say to myself "At least I got Chicken".
Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
Gwar- "And everyone wants a bigger Spleen!"
Mercurial wrote:
I admire your aplomb and instate you as Baron of the Seas and Lord Marshall of Privateers.
Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.
amanita wrote: So dare I ask what happens if he farts? Could it blow the seals on the lower portion of his armor? Or is a space marine's system immune to such mundane fluctuations of bodily conduct?
Moktor wrote: No one should be complaining about this codex. It gave regular Eldar a much needed buff by allowing us to drop Fire Dragons and D-Scythe Wraithguard wherever we want, without scatter. Without this, I almost lost a game once. It was scary. I almost took to buying fixed dice to ensure it never happened again.
It's happened then. The Hunter and Leeroy nerfs have arrived and how! I've just finished my 15th game on ladder this morning and not one Hunter, Handlock or Miracle Rogue did I face… It's a little weird tbh. Although I'm expecting the popularity of Handlock to go up again now that Hunters have all but vanished along with their pesky Hunters Marks and crazy card draw mechanics.
Maybe Priest will get a look in again too now? I always liked the Priest...
I'm just waiting for the 100+ card expansion to hit. As much as I enjoy this game, it needs a shot in the arm more than the 30 or so Nax cards that just came out. The last update screwing the Buzzard didn't help matters, as all it did was reduce the types of classes people pick (who's taking Hunter now? Seriously?).
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anyways, my money is on geographic region, rather than specific expansion or world event.
