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Trump's done it a few times now. He's not taking a Rogue to Legandary, although I don't think he gets there because his deck is very different to the typical Zoo or Miracle Rogue.

Yeah trump is someone is recommend to every hearthstone player

First WOW problems- when your first epic is Nat Pagle. And your first gold epic is Bloodmage Thalnos. Useless cards seem drawn to me!

 Gitzbitah wrote:
First WOW problems- when your first epic is Nat Pagle. And your first gold epic is Bloodmage Thalnos. Useless cards seem drawn to me!

Bloodmage Thalnos is not useless. It's spell power and cycling for just two mana - a real bargain.

 AlexHolker wrote:

 Gitzbitah wrote:
First WOW problems- when your first epic is Nat Pagle. And your first gold epic is Bloodmage Thalnos. Useless cards seem drawn to me!

Bloodmage Thalnos is not useless. It's spell power and cycling for just two mana - a real bargain.

Umm nat pagle is a fantastic card as well. Those two are really good cards. especially for death decks.

To be fair, Pagle ain't what he used to be.

 Gitzbitah wrote:
First WOW problems- when your first epic is Nat Pagle. And your first gold epic is Bloodmage Thalnos. Useless cards seem drawn to me!

Erm, those are both legendaries neither of them are really bad either, they just need to be put in the right deck. If you'd gotten Hogger or Nozdormu though...

Could always disenchant them and craft good cards for classes you like.

Though nothing beats getting a legendary for the class you want to play, and if it's a golden legendary it's like you just got mouth kissed by god.

It's why I can't go back to playing Hearthstone. I don't care about winning, I just want all the cards in golden because I'm weird like that.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
To be fair, Pagle ain't what he used to be.

Problem was before he was a 2 drop mana tide totem that was far better, being -1 cost and +1 health.

 Goliath wrote:

 Gitzbitah wrote:
First WOW problems- when your first epic is Nat Pagle. And your first gold epic is Bloodmage Thalnos. Useless cards seem drawn to me!

Erm, those are both legendaries neither of them are really bad either, they just need to be put in the right deck. If you'd gotten Hogger or Nozdormu though...

Quite true, although there are very few legendary cards that I would consider actually good. Ysera, BloodMage Thalnos, Harrison Jones, Cairn Bloodhoof and Nat Pagle are really the only good legendary cards at the moment. The rest are just plain weird (Tinkmaster Overspark), useless (Maexna), or both (Nozdormu).

Having said that I'm currently getting an awful lot of use out of the Kel Thuzard/Baron Rivendare combo

With most legendaries you are better off trading them for dust and getting more universally useful 'Vanilla' cards.

 sarpedons-right-hand wrote:

 Goliath wrote:

 Gitzbitah wrote:
First WOW problems- when your first epic is Nat Pagle. And your first gold epic is Bloodmage Thalnos. Useless cards seem drawn to me!

Erm, those are both legendaries neither of them are really bad either, they just need to be put in the right deck. If you'd gotten Hogger or Nozdormu though...

Quite true, although there are very few legendary cards that I would consider actually good. Ysera, BloodMage Thalnos, Harrison Jones, Cairn Bloodhoof and Nat Pagle are really the only good legendary cards at the moment. The rest are just plain weird (Tinkmaster Overspark), useless (Maexna), or both (Nozdormu).

Having said that I'm currently getting an awful lot of use out of the Kel Thuzard/Baron Rivendare combo

With most legendaries you are better off trading them for dust and getting more universally useful 'Vanilla' cards.

You forgot Sylvanas and Ragnaros as well for good legendaries, alongside Tirion Fordring, and a few others.

I can sort of appreciate Thalnos after playing him relentlessly- but outside of a Deathrattle deck, I'd still rather have another spell, an Azure drake, or something better than a dead minion.

On an unrelated note, the gods of chance favor moaning and complaining on these forums- the very next pack I pulled LEERROYYYYY ah JENKINSSS!

And all was right with the world.

 sarpedons-right-hand wrote:
Ysera, BloodMage Thalnos, Harrison Jones, Cairn Bloodhoof and Nat Pagle are really the only good legendary cards at the moment.

Umm... Ragnaros? Sylvanas? Tirion? Alexstrasa?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 sarpedons-right-hand wrote:
Ysera, BloodMage Thalnos, Harrison Jones, Cairn Bloodhoof and Nat Pagle are really the only good legendary cards at the moment.

Umm... Ragnaros? Sylvanas? Tirion? Alexstrasa?[

I bring life and BLAAAAAUUGH

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 sarpedons-right-hand wrote:
Ysera, BloodMage Thalnos, Harrison Jones, Cairn Bloodhoof and Nat Pagle are really the only good legendary cards at the moment.

Umm... Ragnaros? Sylvanas? Tirion? Alexstrasa?

Ok, Tyrion is class specific and I don't play Paladin often, if at all. Ragnaros I'll grant you is pretty good. Sylvanas can be utter rubbish and is too situational in my opinion. And I forgot about Alex....

The actual percentage of good legendary cards is quite low though. Yeah, some are fluffy and great for gimmick decks, the others are rarely seen or used at all and the cards mentioned above are the only legendary cards you see in the top tier decks. Why? Because they are the only ones worth taking.

As Trump has proved a few times now, you don't even need a legendary in your deck to get to Legend rank.

The point is that better than 60% of the legendary cards are better off as dust.

The new one with the "spells cost 5 mana more" battlecry is epic and can shut things down. So is Yesha.

 AdeptSister wrote:
The new one with the "spells cost 5 mana more" battlecry is epic and can shut things down. So is Yesha.

Ysera is most certainly top tier. Loetheb is great. For one turn. Then he's just a vanilla
5 (?)mana 5/5.

Yeah but Loetheb can kill the momentum of a deck in an instant, and give a whole turn (or two) to a player who plays him at the right time.

Most of the legendary cards are good, even if they're only good in certain decks (eg. Leeroy Jenkins is better in a Rogue deck than in a Mage deck). What they aren't though is overpowering or game-winning. You still need to know how to use them.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah but Loetheb can kill the momentum of a deck in an instant, and give a whole turn (or two) to a player who plays him at the right time.

Most of the legendary cards are good, even if they're only good in certain decks (eg. Leeroy Jenkins is better in a Rogue deck than in a Mage deck). What they aren't though is overpowering or game-winning. You still need to know how to use them.

Mage duplicate makes leeroy actually good in mage, especially aggro mage.

Duplicate is so awesome. It is such a power multiplier.

FFS!

I had Anub'rekhan finally at 2 health, and then he's suddenly able to do 18 damage in one turn.

 thenoobbomb wrote:
FFS!

I had Anub'rekhan finally at 2 health, and then he's suddenly able to do 18 damage in one turn.

You think that's bad, just wait for Grobbulus...

 sarpedons-right-hand wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:
FFS!

I had Anub'rekhan finally at 2 health, and then he's suddenly able to do 18 damage in one turn.

You think that's bad, just wait for Grobbulus...

Wait till kel'thuzad or that stupid. STUPID necromancer.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Mage duplicate makes leeroy actually good in mage, especially aggro mage.

Not quite like the "I'm winning! I've got this in the bag... oh God I'm dead... damned Rogues!" Miracle Rogues and their use of Leeroy.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Mage duplicate makes leeroy actually good in mage, especially aggro mage.

Not quite like the "I'm winning! I've got this in the bag... oh God I'm dead... damned Rogues!" Miracle Rogues and their use of Leeroy.

Honestly at this point I really hope whatever they make in that 100 card set will actually shake the meta since they aren't going to fix this one hit kill crap, I mean they nerfed the hell out of my warsong commander because it synergized with giants, but they won't fix the auctioneer.

 sarpedons-right-hand wrote:
Ragnaros I'll grant you is pretty good.

You *can* have some fun when fighting against Rag, though.

I recently lasted half a dozen turns against Rag while playing a Paladin deck, and ultimately won the match. I kept throwing cheap minions out to absorb his damage.

I did get lucky, though, as he only attacked me directly once. A second hit on me from him would have finished me off. But since his attacks are completely randomized...

I did it! I beat Anub'rekhan with a level 4 mage!


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Any of these cards any good? I don't play Hunter and don't really like to play it either, so thinking of disenchanting or whatever those.

Venture Co, yes, because it's a big hitter and it generally makes your opponents pause and try and kill it, even if the downside to you is pretty bad.

Upgrade can be useful for a Warrior that's packing two Fiery War Axes and two Death's Bites.

Deadly shot is hard removal, but random. Very good when they've only got one big thing out (like they just played Ysera to an empty board).

Snipe has limited use. 4 damage is nice, but often it'll kill 1-3 mana creatures and that isn't really worth it. Exploding and Freezing traps are better.

Bloodsail raider is very situational, and generally better in the hands of a Warrior. Get it out on Turn 3 after playing a Fiery War Axe and it can be quite dangerous. On the bright side, it has 3 health, making it a good counter to all the 2 mana 3/2's that are out there.

Venture Co, yes, because it's a big hitter and it generally makes your opponents pause and try and kill it, even if the downside to you is pretty bad.

Works well with priest or self silence, or if your playing control and don't use that many creatures to begin with.