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The reason Slaaneah's number is 6 is because of the Christian/AntiChrist influences he embodies. 3, in ancient biblical times , was the number of completion, and 7, perfection. 6 being just short of perfect is evil/devil. So 666, 3 sixes, means Complete Evil. That is also the points cost of the Slaaneshi Daemon Lord (Lady?).

Furthermore, and my source is but this wiki page, the Satanic Bible in its practises encourages self-promotion, self-adulation and (controlled) selfishness bordering on hendonism. Besides the "controlled" bit this sounds like Slaanesh a lot. But that's about it. Actually read the page and see what it says and the similarities end there.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Bible

This thread is going "just as planned."

 Deadshot wrote:
The reason Slaaneah's number is 6 is because of the Christian/AntiChrist influences he embodies. 3, in ancient biblical times , was the number of completion, and 7, perfection. 6 being just short of perfect is evil/devil. So 666, 3 sixes, means Complete Evil. That is also the points cost of the Slaaneshi Daemon Lord (Lady?).

Furthermore, and my source is but this wiki page, the Satanic Bible in its practises encourages self-promotion, self-adulation and (controlled) selfishness bordering on hendonism. Besides the "controlled" bit this sounds like Slaanesh a lot. But that's about it. Actually read the page and see what it says and the similarities end there.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Bible

Nine is three threes, which is 'thrice sacred' - hence Tzeentch is the truest divinity of the gods.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
The reason Slaaneah's number is 6 is because of the Christian/AntiChrist influences he embodies. 3, in ancient biblical times , was the number of completion, and 7, perfection. 6 being just short of perfect is evil/devil. So 666, 3 sixes, means Complete Evil. That is also the points cost of the Slaaneshi Daemon Lord (Lady?).

Furthermore, and my source is but this wiki page, the Satanic Bible in its practises encourages self-promotion, self-adulation and (controlled) selfishness bordering on hendonism. Besides the "controlled" bit this sounds like Slaanesh a lot. But that's about it. Actually read the page and see what it says and the similarities end there.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Bible

Nine is three threes, which is 'thrice sacred' - hence Tzeentch is the truest divinity of the gods.

Of course. Infinite complexity as human mind cannot understand, much like what the Christian god which inspired much of the 40K gods (Khorne = Old Testament Wrath of God type stuff, Nurgle the Plagues of Egypt, Slaanesh the Devil/Anti-Christ, Tzeentch the omniscience). Doesn't make him more powerful, just more literally divine. Khorne still has the most power.

Nurgle, no question. Khorne and Slaanesh lure you in with experiences/emotions that become the only way to achieve satisfaction, but they end up making you unable to enjoy them. It's better to be killed by those two than go into service with them. Tzeentch seems like the way to go, but read 'The Lives of Ferag Lion-Wolf.' Tzeentch has a bad habit of betraying even his wildly successful minions, because that's kind of his bag.

All the Chaos gods drop horrible curses on you, but Nurgle is alone in that he makes it so that you enjoy them. Immortal AND happy? A rarity in 40k, and probably worth the gribbly side effects.

After reading everything, either Slaanesh, or Nurgle with Khorne a close third. Nurgle makes you happy, and if you're successful, than you get your own little pack of nurgglett children. What is bad being a completely insane mass-murderer who wants to destroy the universe when you're happy trying and never succeeding? Slaanesh second, because non-stop raping and sex and screwing and deliciousness and never having to worry about the other person liking it but the nonstop pleasure and amazing feelings leave you hollow inside. Khorne third because Khorne aint gonna betray you (usually) and you just have some simple eternal combat, but you live forever and feel nothing but rage; what a sad existence. Tzeentch last because Tzeentch will kill you just to make something change.

Tzeentch.

Everything you have ever done, will do, will think of doing, have vaguely considered doing, and all of the things that you have not are all part of his plans.

And everything is going just as planned.

 Psienesis wrote:
Tzeentch.

Everything you have ever done, will do, will think of doing, have vaguely considered doing, and all of the things that you have not are all part of his plans.

And everything is going just as planned.

Except that plan typically involves you dying or turning into Chaos Spawn. Of all the Chaos Gods Tzeentch backstabs his followers the most.

Yeah, I mean I can see the allure of following Tzeentch, but he can seriously be a real world class A-hole to his followers. Just whatever his whims happen to be that day.

 Psienesis wrote:
Tzeentch.

Everything you have ever done, will do, will think of doing, have vaguely considered doing, and all of the things that you have not are all part of his plans.

And everything is going just as planned.

I always felt it was more of the case that he can see all the choices possible of every being with a warp signature/soul and he can push you - directly or indirectly, whatever works best - one way or another to make the choices that are to his liking for his grand plan. I am pretty sure some individuals have been able to ruffle his feathers though (like Arguleon Veq).

Getting his feathers ruffled was also exactly as planned.

Except that plan typically involves you dying or turning into Chaos Spawn. Of all the Chaos Gods Tzeentch backstabs his followers the most.

Just as planned. You, the mortal pawn, have fulfilled your part and been rewarded for your service. Shuffle along, now.

Yeah, I mean I can see the allure of following Tzeentch, but he can seriously be a real world class A-hole to his followers. Just whatever his whims happen to be that day.

All of the Chaos Gods are world-class A-holes. Each and every fething one of them. Nurgle? Nurgle makes you a bloated corpse that festers diseases and plagues that spread everywhere you go. He's a god that feeds on despair.

Slaanesh? I think we've already covered what Slaanesh can /will do to you.

Khorne? You're the merest pawn in a battlefield that crosses dimensions. Your death... and it will come, one day... will hardly be noticed... but your blood, too, is welcome.

Tzeentch isn't perfect. Nurgle is stated to have screwed up his plans on more than one occassion. And he also isn't 100% all-knowing (probably because free will still exists), otherwise he wouldn't have had to have the Fateweaver incident.

Also, he canonically once got blindsided by a little girl and her dog. Even Tzeentch to this day doesn't know how THAT happened.

The little girl and the dog did not "blindside" Tzeentch, they just made it through his Labyrinth. It's a Wizard of Oz reference. Just as planned.

Nurgle is stated to have screwed up his plans on more than one occassion.

Just as planned.

otherwise he wouldn't have had to have the Fateweaver incident.

Exactly according to plan.

i like khorne most, but i actually hate all of them.



HERESSSSSYYYYYY!!!!

Most of us don't need to be saved from a debilitating disease.

Most of us don't need help crushing our enemies under an ax.

Most of us don't seek the next high as if it is the only thing in existence.

We all want to get ahead at work. Who helps the common man to impress his superiors, get ahead of his rivals, and make a better day for himself?

Tzeentch- the Chaos God for the Common Man!

... is it too late to change my vote?

While Tzeentch is certainly among the most powerful Chaos Gods as from what he commands, he's the absolute worst Chaos God to be a cultist of as it always leads to you being screwed over. Slaanesh and Nurgle meanwhile offer actual returns and make you happy/allow you to enjoy your grimdark life.

Oh, you cannot tell me that being a Slaaneshi cultist does not result in you being screwed. Come on, now...

Guess its the difference between being screwed, and being screwed over.

Reminds me of a joke about a lightbulb though.

 Psienesis wrote:
Oh, you cannot tell me that being a Slaaneshi cultist does not result in you being screwed. Come on, now...

They're screwed in a different way, and they enjoy it.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

Guess its the difference between being screwed, and being screwed over.

Reminds me of a joke about a lightbulb though.

But the big question is how they got in there.

 Psienesis wrote:
The little girl and the dog did not "blindside" Tzeentch, they just made it through his Labyrinth. It's a Wizard of Oz reference. Just as planned.

Nurgle is stated to have screwed up his plans on more than one occassion.

Just as planned.

otherwise he wouldn't have had to have the Fateweaver incident.

Exactly according to plan.

What do you mean here, did he want to have the Fateweaver incident? If this is covered in a novel, just point me in the right direction, I feel like I'd like to read this.

Who would win in a straight up 1v1 fight? Khorne or Tzeentch. All depends on the plan......

Who is the least unpleasant? Probably Nurgle, brotherly love and all of that.

Who is the greatest threat to humanity? Slaanesh no contest, he is the closest to the Judeo-Christian devil as any.

Who is the most unpleasant? Khorne definitely. Assuming you die in your sleep, you work as a slave in the brass forges under lash. Murder someone? Your boiling blood is a source of fuel. Unless you are an ork, Khorne loves orks in the fluff.

 Deadshot wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
The reason Slaaneah's number is 6 is because of the Christian/AntiChrist influences he embodies. 3, in ancient biblical times , was the number of completion, and 7, perfection. 6 being just short of perfect is evil/devil. So 666, 3 sixes, means Complete Evil. That is also the points cost of the Slaaneshi Daemon Lord (Lady?).

Furthermore, and my source is but this wiki page, the Satanic Bible in its practises encourages self-promotion, self-adulation and (controlled) selfishness bordering on hendonism. Besides the "controlled" bit this sounds like Slaanesh a lot. But that's about it. Actually read the page and see what it says and the similarities end there.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Bible

Nine is three threes, which is 'thrice sacred' - hence Tzeentch is the truest divinity of the gods.

Of course. Infinite complexity as human mind cannot understand, much like what the Christian god which inspired much of the 40K gods (Khorne = Old Testament Wrath of God type stuff, Nurgle the Plagues of Egypt, Slaanesh the Devil/Anti-Christ, Tzeentch the omniscience). Doesn't make him more powerful, just more literally divine. Khorne still has the most power.

Ehm... Michael Moorcock's Gods of Chaos, from his Eternal Champion series of books, is the direct inspiration for all of the Chaos Gods in 40K. There's nothing Biblical about the Ruinous Powers.


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 Inca wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
The little girl and the dog did not "blindside" Tzeentch, they just made it through his Labyrinth. It's a Wizard of Oz reference. Just as planned.

Nurgle is stated to have screwed up his plans on more than one occassion.

Just as planned.

otherwise he wouldn't have had to have the Fateweaver incident.

Exactly according to plan.

What do you mean here, did he want to have the Fateweaver incident? If this is covered in a novel, just point me in the right direction, I feel like I'd like to read this.

Everything is part of Tzeentch's plans, even when it seems to directly contradict one of his other plans. Such complexity cannot be understood by the sane mortal mind. It would be a fool's errand to attempt to chronicle such things.

It is canon that Khorne's realm stands at the highest power, and Slaanesh at the weakest.


However this fluctuates rather easily. Tzeentch was BY FAR the most powerful, and if he regains his shattered pieces he would return to that status. When plague blooms, nurgle blooms. etc.

 Psienesis wrote:


Ehm... Michael Moorecock's Gods of Chaos, from his Eternal Champion series of books, is the direct inspiration for all of the Chaos Gods in 40K. There's nothing Biblical about the Ruinous Powers

I thought GW only really stole how Moorcock portrayed how Chaos was an essential part of the universe. GW may have taken from his gods of Chaos, but I wouldn't say it's farfetched to believe that Moorcock's gods (Law and Chaos) took inspiration from a multitude of religions both present and past.

I think there are plenty of parallels between the Chaos Gods and figures/characters/beings/gods/etc. we've seen in religion with Lucifer and Slaanesh definitely having much in common.

The whole mutating into weird things aspect of Chaos is directly taken from the Elric of Melnibone series, the whole Order vs Disorder or Law/Chaos (in WHF), the strange conceptual deities (rather than being gods of a physical thing, like fire, the moon, whatever).

we've seen in religion with Lucifer and Slaanesh definitely having much in common.

Ehm, so does Arioch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deities_in_the_Elric_series

 Psienesis wrote:
The whole mutating into weird things aspect of Chaos is directly taken from the Elric of Melnibone series, the whole Order vs Disorder or Law/Chaos (in WHF), the strange conceptual deities (rather than being gods of a physical thing, like fire, the moon, whatever).

we've seen in religion with Lucifer and Slaanesh definitely having much in common.

Ehm, so does Arioch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deities_in_the_Elric_series

Like I said:

King Pariah wrote:I wouldn't say it's farfetched to believe that Moorcock's gods (Law and Chaos) took inspiration from a multitude of religions both present and past.

King Pariah wrote:I think there are plenty of parallels between the Chaos Gods and figures/characters/beings/gods/etc. we've seen in religion

Is it really that hard to assume that Moorcock's gods weren't inspired by beings from religions hence why there are parallels between the Chaos Gods and figures/characters/beings/gods/etc. we've seen in religion?

I will say that 4 powers of chaos are very cyclical as to how their powers wax and wane.

Is it really that hard to assume that Moorcock's gods weren't inspired by beings from religions hence why there are parallels between the Chaos Gods and figures/characters/beings/gods/etc. we've seen in religion?

It is considering that Moorcock himself has denied any such links. Remember, he wrote Elric when he was a 17 year old student, and not particularly well-studied.