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 skullking wrote:
Would be a cool move on GW's part to release a nice big new plastic avatar kit, for use in fantasy & 40k. But, we'll see.

This all over, most exciting bit of the whole rumour by far for me!

Still intrigued to see where all this End Times stuff is leading to.

Experience suggests that supplements such as this are all but forgotten (in terms of support) a year later.

Good question. I'm hoping they use it as a springboard to really shake up the game and setting in 9th

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Hold on there.

Khaine is War. So we're 3 for 3 for the actual Horsemen of the Apocalypse analogues. This leaves Famine. Does this mean the last End Times release will be Ogre based? That would be epic.


I could see Skaven fitting also, but meh.

How is Nurgle Conquest?

Nurgle is Pestilence.

 Eldarain wrote:
Nurgle is Pestilence.

Pestilence isn't actually a Horseman.

Well that changes that then.


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My knowledge of such matters is entirely.derived from comic books

 Eldarain wrote:
Well that changes that then.


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My knowledge of such matters is entirely.derived from comic books

Technically Conquest, War, Death and Famine are the four horsemen, but Conquest has been frequently subsumed by Pestilence, especially latterly, so either is possibly correct, depending on what you're drawing your references from, but Conquest is the original.

 Flashman wrote:
Still intrigued to see where all this End Times stuff is leading to.

Experience suggests that supplements such as this are all but forgotten (in terms of support) a year later.

I expect to see Blightkings, maggoth lords etc as part of chaos armies on the 9th. But yes your right.
To be honest we do need more buzz in wfb and these end of time waves are doing just that.

 Platuan4th wrote:

How is Nurgle Conquest?

Well in Glotkin, the forces of chaos kinda flattened half the Empire... thats kinda conquesty.

I do suspect, though, that GW is going for the same usual 'pestilence' interpretation.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Hold on there.

Khaine is War. So we're 3 for 3 for the actual Horsemen of the Apocalypse analogues. This leaves Famine. Does this mean the last End Times release will be Ogre based? That would be epic.


I could see Skaven fitting also, but meh.

How is Nurgle Conquest?

What a passive-aggressive way to point out my ignorance.

 Eldarain wrote:
Good question. I'm hoping they use it as a springboard to really shake up the game and setting in 9th

I'm really hoping they don't, there was never any need to "shake up"(ie, completely wreck) the setting in order to fix the issues with the game mechanics.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
Nurgle is Pestilence.

Pestilence isn't actually a Horseman.

The final horeman is death..

For Christians it is

First - Anti Christ - White horse
I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come and see!” I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest. ( Revelation 6:1-2)

Second - War - Red horse
When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come and see!” Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword. ( Revelation 6:3-4)

Third - Famine - Black Horse
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come and see!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “A quart of wheat for a day’s wages, and three quarts of barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!” (Revelation 6:5-6)

Forth - Death - Pale Horse
When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come and see!” I looked and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine, and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth. (Revelation 6:7-8)

The comic books and popular tv has changed it for a more.... less offensiveness
War, Famine, Plague and death

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Hold on there.

Khaine is War. So we're 3 for 3 for the actual Horsemen of the Apocalypse analogues. This leaves Famine. Does this mean the last End Times release will be Ogre based? That would be epic.


I could see Skaven fitting also, but meh.

Actually youre 2 for 3, Pestilence isnt one of the horsemen, look it up. Rumors indicate that theres a 5th book in the series in any case.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I bet High Elves win. Bad guys never win lol.

The implication is that Malekith isnt the bad guy. Also, its not split along factions, one of the lists is the Wood, Dark, and High elves united behind Malekith, the other list is the resistance lead by errr.... Tyrion or Teclis I forget which because I confuse the two constantly. The third list is the survivors lead by unknown.

Just one step closer to skaven a whatwhat!!!!

To bad the rumours are no new models. I find that strange but we will see how they unfold I geuss!


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Also here's what this weekends cover of white dwarf looks like. Clearly not anything new model wise.

OgreChubbs wrote:
For Christians it is

First - Anti Christ - White horse
I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come and see!” I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest. ( Revelation 6:1-2)

The white horse is actually Conquest, not the Antichrist. The antichrist is repeatedly called "The Beast(of the earth)" and the False Prophet in Revelations.

Shame that there's no new models. Seems a bit odd to just run out of steam half-way through.

Such a disappointing model to have on the front cover.
I thought there were bits in the new plastic kit that resemble Malekith... Though I guess they don't sell their old finecast Malekiths that way...

I loathe that old dragon.

Aren't the old dragons still metal? A combined force makes the banner of Nagarythe pretty awesome assuming the list gives us access to the proper units.

After all the excitement all we get is a reminder that GW have no fething idea how to make a cool looking dragon

chaos0xomega wrote:

Actually youre 2 for 3, Pestilence isnt one of the horsemen, look it up.

Wow. Isn't it windy up there on that horse?

Except in pop culture it is. Every 4 horsemen trope has a rider of pestilence. Do you think if GW were to base in on the 4 horsemen they would dig up the real Revelations or use the pop culture horsemen which everybody knows?

Red Dwarf had pestilence and that's the gold standard for me!

 Haljin wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

Actually youre 2 for 3, Pestilence isnt one of the horsemen, look it up.

Wow. Isn't it windy up there on that horse?

Except in pop culture it is. Every 4 horsemen trope has a rider of pestilence. Do you think if GW were to base in on the 4 horsemen they would dig up the real Revelations or use the pop culture horsemen which everybody knows?

You never know. Also, again, rumored as a 5 book series, so I wouldnt focus too much on the "Horseman of the Apocalypse" angle

day 2's text

The cast of players will assume their roles. Only through their sacrifice will Isha’s children be saved.

 Opeth30 wrote:
Aren't the old dragons still metal? A combined force makes the banner of Nagarythe pretty awesome assuming the list gives us access to the proper units.

The dragon in the Malekith kit I bought 10 years ago had a plastic one.

Well, that's disappointing. I was looking forward to a new Malekith plastic kit.


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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
After all the excitement all we get is a reminder that GW have no fething idea how to make a cool looking dragon

However, if you look at Heresy Minis, he has an excellent idea how to make a cool looking dragon lol. Of which I am a proud owner of one

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Hold on there.

Khaine is War. So we're 3 for 3 for the actual Horsemen of the Apocalypse analogues. This leaves Famine. Does this mean the last End Times release will be Ogre based? That would be epic.


I could see Skaven fitting also, but meh.

Actually youre 2 for 3, Pestilence isnt one of the horsemen, look it up. Rumors indicate that theres a 5th book in the series in any case.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I bet High Elves win. Bad guys never win lol.

The implication is that Malekith isnt the bad guy. Also, its not split along factions, one of the lists is the Wood, Dark, and High elves united behind Malekith, the other list is the resistance lead by errr.... Tyrion or Teclis I forget which because I confuse the two constantly. The third list is the survivors lead by unknown.

In pop culture and common knowledge pestilence is one of the 4 horsemen.
Ask any random fellow on the street, and they will (incorrectly) say pestilence.
Unless they are familiar with the Bible.


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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
After all the excitement all we get is a reminder that GW have no fething idea how to make a cool looking dragon

Yeah, GW dragons aren't great. FW is slightly better, but not by much.

@Cthulu: IDK about that, their Chaos Emperor Dragon was amazing IMO. I quite liked the various other dragons too come to think of it.


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TiamatRoar wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Finubar might make it to having a mini after all,

Spoiler:

if the Glottkin can get bumped off

after having new models, who's to say he won't have one?

IIRC, the Glotkin are technically still alive, but they're in jars in Nurgle's attic. Nurgle is not happy with them.

Well, for all intents and purposes they're dead lol. Their souls are in Nurgle's Jar O'Shame.

So there is going to be a combined Elves list in this book? What is the pre order date? Because if it's before I get paid I'm gonna miss out on this due to their stupid 'let's make these books that are selling really well limited edition' policy.