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Why not let the condemned chose his method from approved methods? Most will probably chose gunshot to the head.

 Xenomancers wrote:
Why not let the condemned chose his method from approved methods? Most will probably chose gunshot to the head.

Or death by naked chase... https://vimeo.com/10798467 (nsfw)

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Of all the methods, firing squad is probably one of the worst. It's not a quick process, and some people even survive.

Only if its done using the stereotypical firing squad with a half dozen shooters lined up at 10ish feet away.

We can have mechanical firing squads now. Multiple fixed mount high caliber rifles zeroed in on the prisoner's brain and central nervous system and fired mechanically. The prisoner is restrained in such a way that he cannot move and cause the bullets to miss their mark.

For those worried about the possibility of the prisoner actually surviving the bullets for any length of time, the prisoner can be sedated using general anesthetic. They will be incapable of feeling pain, and even if the gunshots are not immediately lethal they will die of blood-loss and trauma long before regaining consciousness.

I think one shot to the base of the spine, and two to the cranium, would be sufficient. If people really can't stand the sight of blood, the room will automatically be hosed down with sprinklers before the body is removed. But if people can't stand blood they probably shouldn't have made the prison system their career.

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
Why not let the condemned chose his method from approved methods? Most will probably chose gunshot to the head.

Or death by naked chase... https://vimeo.com/10798467 (nsfw)

"he died doing what he loved."

Didn't North Korea perfect this? Execute by mortar fire?

Do we really want to emulate North Korea?

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Do we really want to emulate North Korea?

Well... when some advocate "Death by Explosion" because it's more humane.

I think NK got that down pat.

 Grey Templar wrote:
If people really can't stand the sight of blood, the room will automatically be hosed down with sprinklers before the body is removed. But if people can't stand blood they probably shouldn't have made the prison system their career.

I really don't think that wanting to work for the prison system should mean you're expected to be comfortable mopping up the splattered remains of someone who has been shot to death. People have different reasons for doing jobs and some people value the rehabilitation side of things rather than cleaning up messy executions.

 Howard A Treesong wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
If people really can't stand the sight of blood, the room will automatically be hosed down with sprinklers before the body is removed. But if people can't stand blood they probably shouldn't have made the prison system their career.

I really don't think that wanting to work for the prison system should mean you're expected to be comfortable mopping up the splattered remains of someone who has been shot to death. People have different reasons for doing jobs and some people value the rehabilitation side of things rather than cleaning up messy executions.

Sometimes a job is just a job.

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
Why not let the condemned chose his method from approved methods? Most will probably chose gunshot to the head.

Or death by naked chase... https://vimeo.com/10798467 (nsfw)

Nah, that's inhumane to the women doing the chasing. Breasts bouncing like that with no support? That will hurt

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
Why not let the condemned chose his method from approved methods? Most will probably chose gunshot to the head.

Or death by naked chase... https://vimeo.com/10798467 (nsfw)

Nah, that's inhumane to the women doing the chasing. Breasts bouncing like that with no support? That will hurt

Perhaps they are female criminals and this is their punishment?

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
Why not let the condemned chose his method from approved methods? Most will probably chose gunshot to the head.

Or death by naked chase... https://vimeo.com/10798467 (nsfw)

Nah, that's inhumane to the women doing the chasing. Breasts bouncing like that with no support? That will hurt

Perhaps they are female criminals and this is their punishment?

This is starting to get convoluted

Bishop F Gantry wrote:
Your concern for those having to mop it up is touching...

I find it completely bizarre that we'd happily employ people to kill healthy human beings in cold blood, but flinch at the idea that we'd need to hire someone to hose down a chamber full of gore.


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 SilverMK2 wrote:
Do it right and you collapse ythe chamber on the exploded person. That way you create jobs building new explosion chambers each time you execute someone. Of course you cut down on jobs in the casket, burial etc sector, but I think the concrete and construction lobby have more money for buying politicians and so will win out in this one...

Now we've got someone who sees the potential!

I say death by snoo snoo.......with other inmates

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
I really don't think that wanting to work for the prison system should mean you're expected to be comfortable mopping up the splattered remains of someone who has been shot to death. People have different reasons for doing jobs and some people value the rehabilitation side of things rather than cleaning up messy executions.

Fortunately there's a solution to this: pass a new law that requires any politician who votes for the death penalty or prosecutor who chooses to seek the death penalty to spend time cleaning up the mess. So yeah, feel free to ask for the death penalty for that really horrible criminal and keep the "tough on crime" voters happy, just be aware that someday in the future you're going to be scrubbing bits of their brain off the wall. Let's just end this ridiculous system where the people asking for the death penalty have no responsibility for carrying out the sentence and can just pretend that it's a nice "civilized" medical procedure that nobody has to be uncomfortable with.

Way better idea.

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
How hard can it be to kill painlessly? All you do is give a general anaesthetic as people routinely do in hospital every day. Then finish them off when they're out of it. Orlanth is right, how can these executions be botched so that people take half hour to die from a 'lethal' injection?

In addition to what Dreadwinter said earlier, part of the issue in the US is that properly trained medical professionals are barred from participating in executions for ethical reasons. So, no certified anesthesiologist, for example.

I'm pretty conflicted about the death penalty in general, but if it must be done, I like the ideas of the explosion machine, and the head ripping off machine.

I posted this in another thread at some point in the past I think:

 d-usa wrote:
I posted this in another thread at some point in the past I think:

The variable drop hanging method is humane, yes hanging can decapitate but the chances of that are practically non existent if you weigh them first. Throughout the 19th and 20th century hangings in the UK there were no decapitations.
It was a well studied method and good for the reason that it was exceptionally quick. The condemned was often executed within 20 seconds of knowing they will be executed on that day but then the entire system was drawn up this way, execution dates were kept concealed from the condemned and even last minute reprieves expired at midnight of the execution day.

Here is a fictionalised but accurate portrayal:




First four minutes, though the whole film is worth watching.

The Variable drop method is not the best method for the Us because of the way the legal system works. Hypoxia is best because of the euphoric death. However for the Uk method practiced hanging was best because iof the speed of the kill. The above film, has a scene which recreates Albert Pierrepoint's record seven second execution, the film version seems very fast indeed, yet the on screen time was 22 seconds. How the hell Pierrepoint did the job in seven second I have no idea, and that is taken from when the executioner enters the prisoners room.

 Ouze wrote:

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
How hard can it be to kill painlessly? All you do is give a general anaesthetic as people routinely do in hospital every day. Then finish them off when they're out of it. Orlanth is right, how can these executions be botched so that people take half hour to die from a 'lethal' injection?

In addition to what Dreadwinter said earlier, part of the issue in the US is that properly trained medical professionals are barred from participating in executions for ethical reasons. So, no certified anesthesiologist, for example.

I'm pretty conflicted about the death penalty in general, but if it must be done, I like the ideas of the explosion machine, and the head ripping off machine.

It's certainly telling if the only people qualified to do something are barred from doing that thing because it would be unethical for them.

Pretty sure the singing marine in this is Frost from Aliens btw

 Chongara wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
How hard can it be to kill painlessly? All you do is give a general anaesthetic as people routinely do in hospital every day. Then finish them off when they're out of it. Orlanth is right, how can these executions be botched so that people take half hour to die from a 'lethal' injection?

In addition to what Dreadwinter said earlier, part of the issue in the US is that properly trained medical professionals are barred from participating in executions for ethical reasons. So, no certified anesthesiologist, for example.

I'm pretty conflicted about the death penalty in general, but if it must be done, I like the ideas of the explosion machine, and the head ripping off machine.

It's certainly telling if the only people qualified to do something are barred from doing that thing because it would be unethical for them.

Well, you kinda do want doctors to be bound by an oath not to kill people.

I suppose people could be specially trained in the administration of anesthetics for the express purpose of use in executions.