Switch Theme:

Oklahoma One Step Closer to Execution via Nitrogen  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Leerstetten, Germany

http://m.newsok.com/oklahoma-house-passes-bill-allowing-nitrogen-hypoxia-as-alternate-execution-method/article/5398058

(On my cell, so no copy of the text. If someone else wants to copy and paste please feel free).

It still has to pass the senate, but I do wish the bill would have just made it the primary option and done away with lethal injection (of note: OK does have the chair as the current backup).

I am well known to be anti-death penalty, but I know oklahoma won't get rid of it. So I hope we could at least make it as humane as possible, and I think this would be a good step.
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka






Bullet to the head seems the most cost-effective way.

Just make sure it isn't M855.

"The Omnissiah is my Moderati" 
   
Made in us
Legendary Master of the Chapter






Id figure the tried and true noose would be quicker but i think if i had to go id prefer this than injections.


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
Made in us
5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)





Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!

Nitrogen (or even Helium) overdose is a "humane" way to go, as you'd simply go to sleep.

I'd still say life in prison is better alternative.

Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!


 
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka






So it is the equivalent of letting someone sit in their running car in a closed garage... But instead of CO2, you have another gas displacing Oxygen so they slowly suffocate.

Why don't they just hold a pillow over the person's face if they want to suffocate people?

I dunno... Until they can resolve the false conviction issues, I would like to see it all go away.

My Models: Ork Army: Waaagh 'Az-ard - Chibi Dungeon RPG Models! - My Workblog!
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
RULE OF COOL: When converting models, there is only one rule: "The better your model looks, the less people will complain about it."
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
MODELING FOR ADVANTAGE TEST: rigeld2: "Easy test - are you willing to play the model as a stock one? No? MFA." 
   
Made in us
Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard




Catskills in NYS

Same here. But as long we keep doing executions, might as well be humane. It's the only thing that keeps us above those who murder.

Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
 kronk wrote:
Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
 BaronIveagh wrote:
Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






text removed.

Don't ever post images like this on Dakka.

Reds8n

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/03/03 18:49:24


Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.

Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha


 
   
Made in us
Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard




Catskills in NYS

Exactly. Are we as low as them?

Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
 kronk wrote:
Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
 BaronIveagh wrote:
Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
Made in us
Martial Arts Fiday






Nashville, TN

White PJs seem like a really poor choice for such activities.

Interesting form of execution. If it were Helium it'd make their last words fairly entertaining. Lol

"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"

-Nobody Ever

Proverbs 18:2

"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.

 warboss wrote:

GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up.


Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.

EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.

Don't mess with the Blade and Bolter! 
   
Made in gb
Bryan Ansell





Birmingham, UK

It's only humane if the implementation and delivery isn't botched.

May as well go with a noose, bullet or the axe mans block. All are humane.
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Leerstetten, Germany

All keep the brain alive post-execution with potential for awareness of the pain, even if there were no problems during the execution.
   
Made in ca
Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta




LOL, nothing says "humane" like a "gas chamber" says humane. bullet to the head? Hanging? why not just bring back the guillotine?

For humanities sake, let's do away with the death penalty all together. far to many innocent people have needlessly died because of it.


 
   
Made in us
Last Remaining Whole C'Tan






Pleasant Valley, Iowa

I think the most humane way to do it, if you must do it, is a shot in the head point blank with a high caliber. If you don't have the stomach for that, then maybe you shouldn't be executing people.


 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Interesting form of execution. If it were Helium it'd make their last words fairly entertaining. Lol


On the other hand this is quite compelling.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.

 Flinty wrote:
The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Leerstetten, Germany

"Any last *giggle* words *giggle*"
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut






I'm sure the death penalty opponents will find a way to make this cost prohibitive.

Tier 1 is the new Tactical.

My IDF-Themed Guard Army P&M Blog:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/355940.page 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





Horray! Things might be slightly less barbaric then they currently are in about the most limited and fleeting way possible.

Party time.

   
Made in gb
Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God






Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways

I'm surprised that America has not done away with big government intrusion into the death penalty and put that puppy into the hands of the free market. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would put money in politicians pockets for the rights to execute people for profit.

Bring on the thunderdome!

Isn't that in the constitution or something?

   
Made in us
The Conquerer






Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios

 Ouze wrote:
I think the most humane way to do it, if you must do it, is a shot in the head point blank with a high caliber. If you don't have the stomach for that, then maybe you shouldn't be executing people.


I agree. Give them a mild sedative and then blow apart the nervous system. Zero chance of failure to kill, especially if you use multiple rounds in rapid succession.

Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines

Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.

MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! 
   
Made in us
Legendary Master of the Chapter






 SilverMK2 wrote:
I'm surprised that America has not done away with big government intrusion into the death penalty and put that puppy into the hands of the free market. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would put money in politicians pockets for the rights to execute people for profit.

Bring on the thunderdome!

Isn't that in the constitution or something?


Id watch me some death race.

Wasn't there some silly movie where kids get to mind control inmates into playing IRL COD?

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
Made in gb
Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress






Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

Nitrogen hypoxia is better than CO2 as the brain doesnt realise the effect. With Nitrogen hypoxia you go into a state of euphoria and then pass out and die. With CO2 you get the ame but it is stressful.

Animals are CO2 stunned in many slaughterhouses and it results in about 15 seconds of stress.

It is believed that nitrogen hypoxia is not practiced in some states because it is stress free. I have heard compelling rumours that executions are regularly botched or drawn out as a means of providing extra punishment. Allowing for the sheer volume of botched executions especially with lethal injection methods I find this easy to believe.

You can kill someone instantly and guaranteed with hydrogen cyanide, and numerous other toxins so why should a lethal injection take half an hour of pain to kill. It sounds deliberate to me.

Making nitrogen hypoxia the only valid method of execution nationwide would be a good step, then individual states could decide whether or not to apply the death penalty within that restriction.

The only trouble with nitrogen hypoxia is that you cant really DIY, it would be the perfect method of voluntary euthenasia in those countries that apply it. The current method involves drinking a poison which has a bitter aftertaste and is normally accompanied by a strong cup of chocolate syrup to counter.

n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.

It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. 
   
Made in au
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





I've said it countless times before - death by explosion. You want to guarantee a painfree death then you ensure they'll be dead in fraction of a second with ludicrous ultra-violence.

But when we say 'humane' we actually mean 'no blood', and so we keep searching for something that will kill them with no external signs of violence. It's very weird.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
Made in us
[DCM]
The Main Man






Beast Coast

 whembly wrote:
Nitrogen (or even Helium) overdose is a "humane" way to go, as you'd simply go to sleep.

I'd still say life in prison is better alternative.



Conditions in US prisons being what they are, life in prison without the possibility of parole strikes me as incredibly more cruel than a humane execution.

   
Made in us
Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord




Inside Yvraine

 sebster wrote:
I've said it countless times before - death by explosion. You want to guarantee a painfree death then you ensure they'll be dead in fraction of a second with ludicrous ultra-violence.


I'd die to this.

We could have "explosion-chambers".

How rad would that be? Explosion-chambers.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/03/04 07:45:58


 
   
Made in gb
Lord Commander in a Plush Chair





Beijing

How hard can it be to kill painlessly? All you do is give a general anaesthetic as people routinely do in hospital every day. Then finish them off when they're out of it. Orlanth is right, how can these executions be botched so that people take half hour to die from a 'lethal' injection?
   
Made in ax
Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot





 sebster wrote:
I've said it countless times before - death by explosion. You want to guarantee a painfree death then you ensure they'll be dead in fraction of a second with ludicrous ultra-violence.

But when we say 'humane' we actually mean 'no blood', and so we keep searching for something that will kill them with no external signs of violence. It's very weird.

Your concern for those having to mop it up is touching...

A Dark Angel fell on a watcher in the Dark Shroud silently chanted Vengance on the Fallen Angels to never be Unforgiven 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Burtucky, Michigan

 BlaxicanX wrote:
 sebster wrote:
I've said it countless times before - death by explosion. You want to guarantee a painfree death then you ensure they'll be dead in fraction of a second with ludicrous ultra-violence.


I'd die to this.

We could have "explosion-chambers".

How rad would that be? Explosion-chambers.




I may be a terrible person, because I laughed pretty hard at this
   
Made in gb
Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God






Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways

Bishop F Gantry wrote:
 sebster wrote:
I've said it countless times before - death by explosion. You want to guarantee a painfree death then you ensure they'll be dead in fraction of a second with ludicrous ultra-violence.

But when we say 'humane' we actually mean 'no blood', and so we keep searching for something that will kill them with no external signs of violence. It's very weird.

Your concern for those having to mop it up is touching...


Do it right and you collapse ythe chamber on the exploded person. That way you create jobs building new explosion chambers each time you execute someone. Of course you cut down on jobs in the casket, burial etc sector, but I think the concrete and construction lobby have more money for buying politicians and so will win out in this one...

   
Made in us
Proud Triarch Praetorian





 Howard A Treesong wrote:
How hard can it be to kill painlessly? All you do is give a general anaesthetic as people routinely do in hospital every day. Then finish them off when they're out of it. Orlanth is right, how can these executions be botched so that people take half hour to die from a 'lethal' injection?


A lot of the issue with lethal injection is that drug companies do not want their stuff to be known as the "lethal injection drug" and most of them have stopped supplying it. Which is why states are having to go back to alternative methods of execution. I believe Utah is attempting to bring back the Firing Squad.
   
Made in us
Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard




Catskills in NYS

Of all the methods, firing squad is probably one of the worst. It's not a quick process, and some people even survive.

Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
 kronk wrote:
Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
 BaronIveagh wrote:
Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
Made in gb
Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God






Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways

Maybe firing squad duty could be like jury duty - if you have a gun you get put in the rotation for execution duty.

   
 
Forum Index » Off-Topic Forum
Go to: