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Giving advice to either player in a game you aren't fething playing.

Go die in a house fire that your mom started to erase all memory of your existence.

 TheNewBlood wrote:
My pet peeve is people who bring their entire list/codex/rulebook electronically, either on their tablet or, even worse, their smartphone. I have found that physical copies are a lot easier to deal with and don't slow down the game.

I'll second that. I think part of the problem is that people with copies on their tablet/smartphone are also generally not too familiar with the game or their codex, so that's probably part of the problem. But it always seems like I can find it faster in a book than on a screen.

Mine is when people count up for wounds/HP, instead of down. Because not everyone knows how many wounds/hull points your thing has (counting up), but if you indicate its remaining strength (counting down), they'll always know how much more damage it can take.

But I suspect that's somewhat of a toilet paper roll mounted over/under debate.

 War Kitten wrote:

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:
I bring most of the stuff on my tablet because there are no stores near to buy the physical books at and shipping books from GW has had issues in the past for me and I bought them digitally so I can use them at work as well. I also have no problem letting someone see my tablet to look at the list.


The reason I hate when people pick up successes first is then it's impossible to dispute if they pick up one that was not a success, if they remove failures first then I can always say that 2 laying there was a failure, the other way around they just get extras because they effectively cheated.

Understandable, but I don't cheat and I don't appreciate people accusing me of doing so. Not saying you did, but it's annoyed me in the past that I've picked up successes and people have accused me of cheating. (Then they turn around and do the exact same thing)

Well since you don't cheat it should be no big deal for you to pick up the failures to help your opponent verify. Encouraging a system that removes verification only assists players that do cheat.

Removing failures is the gentlemans way. I can guarantee you that dispite your best intentions you have accidentally picked up a failure before, an accident that your opponent could have helped you avoid.

My two cents.

I'll keep that in mind for next time. Might help the game go a little bit more smoothly

 War Kitten wrote:
People who get annoyed at me for picking up the successful dice. I get that everyone does things differently, but don't yell at me because I pick up the successes then move the failures off to the side.

The problem with that method is that it is a favourite of people that cheat because it prevents easy verification of the number of successful rolls. This why removing the fails is the more common method.

When I fire at what should be a surefire target with my LRBT and command LRBT, using the coaxial stubbers to get TW main guns.
>First shot, wiffs
>>Me: Okay, its TW
>Reroll lands the shot in the middle of no where/off the board or on one memorable occasion on my own infantry
>>Me: £$%@
>>Opponent: laughs
>second shot does exactly the same

 Kap'n Krump wrote:

I'll second that. I think part of the problem is that people with copies on their tablet/smartphone are also generally not too familiar with the game or their codex, so that's probably part of the problem. But it always seems like I can find it faster in a book than on a screen.

When you have an idea of roughly where the rule (or whatever) you're looking for is it's much faster in a physical book.

I find the ability to search digital copies useful sometimes as well.

I generally bring my codex and the rule book as physical and then have everything (rules, all of the codexes, FAQs, etc.) on a tablet as well. Best of both worlds.

people who count up wounds/hp on multiwound models instead of wounds/HP remaining.

I'm so use to wounds left that it sometimes throwsme off on who to fire at next.

On a similar topic to people with their lists and codexes on their phone, etc...

We had a weekly league going on at my local FLGS. In between weeks, you could modify your list. We had some people who would show up with a number of different lists on their phone and then, after finding out what the scenario was and who their opponent was, they would pick the list most optimized against them from their phone. Because it wasn't printed out and in hand, you couldn't really prove they were doing that, even though everyone knew they were. Eventually we made it clear that you HAD to bring your list, printed out and in hand, before you got the scenario and opponent.

...they still did it via phone.

Which leads to the other annoyance: TOs without a spine. Our TO wouldn't call them out on it, because he is too nice of a guy. So even though the understanding was "if you don't have list in hand, you don't play that week", it never actually happened...so the list tailoring just continued.

People who go for cigarette breaks during a game irritate me slightly.

At my club there are at least nine 6x4 tables in three rows of three, with not much space between each row. Some people make sure you can get past if you need to... Others don't. Minor annoyance.

Some people like to keep their own 6x4 tables nice and clear of everything but models and keep their reserves, rulebooks and gear on their neighbours table. Bit annoying.

The club has boxes with sets of terrain in, suited to the colour of table. Most people can't be arsed to put the terrain back in the same box it came from, so everything gets mixed up and the table themes are lost. Annoys me a LOT

I keep a couple of boxes of my own stuff at the club for people to use for Necromunda. Others sometimes borrow, get is mixed up with other gear, despite the super clear labelling, and break my stuff. Super annoying.

 Fifty wrote:
People who go for cigarette breaks during a game irritate me slightly.

Opponent's turns are for smoke breaks. You just have to play with people you can trust.

 Lammikkovalas wrote:

 Fifty wrote:
People who go for cigarette breaks during a game irritate me slightly.

Opponent's turns are for smoke breaks. You just have to play with people you can trust.

Sooooo, how do take armour saves? Roll for look out sir!? Determine cover? etc...

If you're expecting your opponent to do all of those things (or wait for you) because you can't seem to go without a cigarette for a couple of hours then you're not doing a lot to endear yourself.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 Lammikkovalas wrote:

 Fifty wrote:
People who go for cigarette breaks during a game irritate me slightly.

Opponent's turns are for smoke breaks. You just have to play with people you can trust.

Sooooo, how do take armour saves? Roll for look out sir!? Determine cover? etc...

If you're expecting your opponent to do all of those things (or wait for you) because you can't seem to go without a cigarette for a couple of hours then you're not doing a lot to endear yourself.

Movement phase takes longer than a smoke break. I very rarely have to be involved in that phase at all, Interceptor being the exception.

When I accidentally knock over a success and the opponent sees that I left the now failed die there. I feel so awkward about trying to explain that.

 Kap'n Krump wrote:

Mine is when people count up for wounds/HP, instead of down.

I always find it weird to count down. Maybe because it just feels like every unit should start with a dice in that case - whereas if you're counting up you can skip dice until something is actually wounded.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
When I accidentally knock over a success and the opponent sees that I left the now failed die there. I feel so awkward about trying to explain that.

This.


Also:

- Trying to place models on uneven ground (craters and hills especially) and having them slide or fall over.

- When 4 people - all looking from different distances and angles - start arguing about the angle of a scatter dice. Bonus points when the guys on the other side of the table don't make any attempt to come to the side the dice was rolled on for a better view.

- Everything about the psychic phase.

- Trying to work out what models were hit by a blast when it landed on a ruins with about 3 levels of models.

- Trying to find anything in the sodding rulebook.

I know it's not technically during a game, but I hate having to pack up afterwards.

One of my big annoyances is when people wander off during games especially when they don't tell me they're going somewhere. The amount of times I've gone to say "take 3 armour saves" just to see the opponent on the other end of the store is ridiculous.

My only other big annoyance is when my opponent's stop paying attention to the game. I get it, as Guard my movement phase can take a while depending on my force, but you can at least attempt to look interested.

SharkoutofWata wrote:D3 rules. 1,2 and 3 are on the frigging dice. Use them. 1,4=1 2,5=2 3,6=3. How friggin hard is that?? I really can't stand all this stupid 'half rounded up' crap.

KharnsRightHand wrote:I get annoyed when I or my opponent roll scatter a significant distance from whatever is scattering. It makes it harder to figure the proper scatter direction. I'm getting better with this, though.

When someone drops a die while shuckling it and just counts it as having been rolled.

When a die lands on a surface that isn't level (a flying base, textured terrain) and they count it.

People who don't understand detachments. (If I get one more person tell me, 'Oh, your Freakshow list has more than two detachments, so it's Unbound,' I'm going to tear my face off like Geena Davis in Beetlejuice.)

people who accuse me of abusing rules and being cheezzy in magic card and bash up

 Jimsolo wrote:

When someone drops a die while shuckling it and just counts it as having been rolled.

When a die lands on a surface that isn't level (a flying base, textured terrain) and they count it.

If I say it enough times, people might see it as a potential solution. Roll into a box. No confusion on dropped dice whilst shuckling (great word!) - in the box and it's rolled, out the box and it's not - and no cocked dice on an unlevel surface.

Leaving dice all over the table, so that it's not always clear which dice where just rolled. Leave dice you're not using in a pile.

People who insist on using their own dice for everything, I like to use the same dice for and entire combat (hits, wounds and saves), so bias (or loading ) does not benefit only one player.

With regard to removing failures or successes, choose the method that guards against cheating always (like above), then no (or at least fewer) accusations are needed.

Not marking units that Jink, or have some psychic special effect, or any other in game marker so it does not get forgotten. This has become so common I will write it down on a poker chip and place it next to my opponent's units.

DarkBlack wrote:
Leaving dice all over the table, so that it's not always clear which dice where just rolled. Leave dice you're not using in a pile.

I suspect the box solution would help here too! (Okay, I'll stop with the box comments now)

When I can't stop myself from calling my not-Celestine, "Celestine" instead of her proper name. : /

 Pouncey wrote:
When I can't stop myself from calling my not-Celestine, "Celestine" instead of her proper name. : /

I do the same thing for my not-Sicarius or my not-Calgar

 vipoid wrote:

 Kap'n Krump wrote:

Mine is when people count up for wounds/HP, instead of down.

I always find it weird to count down. Maybe because it just feels like every unit should start with a dice in that case - whereas if you're counting up you can skip dice until something is actually wounded.

I think you misquoted to the wrong person there.

My mind set is that everything start at 100% so anything that has a dice you know has wounds missing and how many wounds/hp are left.

I see the counting up wounds to add an extra step of math of "ok he starts with 3 wounds and the dice is at 1 so that means he has 2 wounds left" where as the count down is "ok he starts with 3 wounds and the dice is at 1 so that means he has one wound left". For me it is less upkeep even if it is as basic as 1+1.

Am i missing something else other than the dice is showing how many wounds/HP the model has taken?

People who roll in a box when there's a perfectly good table, filled with models and uneven terrain....

As far as digital rules, I usually take my digital stuff, but I make it a point to print out all the relevant special rules and datasheets for my army so that I have those specific items at quick grab. Since I'm still fairly new at playing, I like to have these things close by.

 Grumblewartz wrote:
People who roll in a box when there's a perfectly good table, filled with models and uneven terrain....