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2016/12/21 18:05:23
Subject: Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
I don't think it will share sprues with Magnus. The art on the cover looks reasonably different (much thinner arms for one thing), it will probably share sprues with Fateweaver if anything like the Bloodthirster and Skarbrand. I'd imagine they'd want Magnus to be a bit more special, and not share sprues.
2016/12/21 20:22:25
Subject: Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2016/12/21 20:38:46
Subject: Re:Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
Smashed Dreadnought and sockets/cybernetics (for his power armour pre Daemon, from what I read in WD) in that sprue.
"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
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2016/12/21 20:50:53
Subject: Re:Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
The points for the warcrolls are in the Book, it's points are updated, just like the warcrolls themselves. E.g: Tzaangor.
This is the worst thing to hear :( . That means they are likely abandoning the idea of updating points on a regular basis to balance things. It means we're back to the problem an under/over costed model remaining that way till a new book comes out.
2016/12/21 21:02:10
Subject: Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
Guys, they aren't going to re-use Magnus to make an LOC. If all they were planning on doing was changing a head, then they would have just released a dual kit.
Give GW some credit, they have been smashing it model wise all year, don't think for a second that will stop with the LOC being nothing but a head swap.
The points for the warcrolls are in the Book, it's points are updated, just like the warcrolls themselves. E.g: Tzaangor.
This is the worst thing to hear :( . That means they are likely abandoning the idea of updating points on a regular basis to balance things. It means we're back to the problem an under/over costed model remaining that way till a new book comes out.
Bahahahahahahahahaha.
I can't be sympathetic at all here. People whinged about points-less AOS without ever trying it, only coming back for "Matched Play".
You made this crap happen. Good riddance.
2016/12/21 21:16:39
Subject: Re:Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
- Intro video - it's the time of tzeentch now, the architect of fate rises!
- Mug, Rob and Eddie are here
- DoT is a new AoS battletome. They will also give an overview of where they are at AoS, both story and rules wise!
- This battletome moves the story along a bit.
- Where are we in the mortal realms right now? We only saw three realms so far, we know that the forces of chaos rose and drove back the forces of Order and Destruction in the Age of Myth, they overthrew the pantheon of gods. Sigmar build an army to reclaim the mortal realms one day. With the Age of Sigmar he threw down his Stormcast Eternals. Wars in Realm of Fire, Life (-> Sylvaneth), Beasts. Nurgle and Khorne's forces are driven back, they both had big footholds there, but their powers are now declining. Alarielle got reborn in her War-Aspect.
- It's now Tzeentch's time to try to claim to be the head of the chaos pantheon.
- Forces of Order have now bases in some of the realms, re-populations begin. New cities!
- Season of War campaign - some of this elements are now incorporated in the narrative of the ongoing world/story line. Basically - this book is your fault - There are already agents of tzeentch out there in the cities. Tzeentch is playing the big game with style. He is trying to get dominance over the other chaos gods - Sigmar is secondary.
- 2016 was an awesome year for gamers of AoS - both competitive and narrative games. AoS is doing great!
- Not only new human population - also new beasts population.
- DoT is not only about the Arcanites, it's an evolution of the classic battletome. Created with feedback from the community.
- The Tzeentch book covers ALL OF TZEENTCH. If you got Tzeentch, this is for you.
- It's got lots of stuff. Like tzeentch daemons, tzaangors, arcanites, tzeentch mortal army (chaos warriors, slaves to darkness). Huge amount of models. Some new ones, some old ones. Ogroid Thaumaturg is in
- There are still human kingdoms who survived the Age of Chaos. Scattered remnants of tribes that once where great kingdoms, a few may have found ways to hide from Chaos. Also people are moving back in and build new cities - tzeentch already has spread his seed though ...
- Years happened between the last book and this one! Enough time to build a city.
- Cover shows a LoC!
- 136 pages.
- Big release over several weeks. Loats of stuff.
- New Path to Glory. If you are playing narrative, for the first time they have included the PtG for that army!
- Full spectrum of building a Tzeentch Army!
- New tzeentch dice rolling mechanic for your army^^
- You can't change the dice, but choose to use one of your tzeentchy dice instead (you get nine at the start of the game).
- In order to get this, you must be playing an army of Tzeentch! (of course ^^). Any, as long as it's tzeentch (daemons, arcanites, or a mix!)
- Expand your collection, use your collection or get a new one - or a mix!
- New Command traits for different sub-factions. Three charts. Arcanites, Daemons and Mortals.
- Arcanites are sneaky. Mortals are more the "traditional" chaos army.
- New Lore of Fate - the ones for Arcanites and mortals.
- More spells! Also, the Lore of Change. It's for daemons.
- Two very different ways, you can also mix them.
- Gaunt Summoner - keyword daemon, mortal and arcanite. So he can pick from both lores! Lvl 2, also has his own spell. He's gonna be great!
- New narrative warscroll batallions (similiar to the Sylvaneth ones).
- Points are in the book.
- New models. New Tzaangor on disk - it's a Tzaangor Shaman. Lot's of spells.
- Tzaangor Skyfires. Tzaangor guys on disks with bows.
When I first saw the teasers for Magnus, I thought they were surely going to be a dual kit. Once it was confirmed not to be, I than assumed at least a sprue or 2 would be shared. But now that Magnus is out and we have all seen how big he is and how impressive his statline is, I think we can all be sure that no part of the Magnus kit will be shared with a LoC/FW kit
Fatey and LoCs are just not supposed to look imposing, That is part of their deception. Ever part of Magnus looks powerful and strong LoCs prefer to hide their power and appear weak and frail, luring their enemies into a false sense of security. By the time the enemies realizes how powerful the LoC can be, it is too late. I expect the plastic kit will still have elements of this.
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The points for the warcrolls are in the Book, it's points are updated, just like the warcrolls themselves. E.g: Tzaangor.
This is the worst thing to hear :( . That means they are likely abandoning the idea of updating points on a regular basis to balance things. It means we're back to the problem an under/over costed model remaining that way till a new book comes out.
Bahahahahahahahahaha.
I can't be sympathetic at all here. People whinged about points-less AOS without ever trying it, only coming back for "Matched Play".
You made this crap happen. Good riddance.
You know I jumped into AoS day one and was one of the few people who stayed around when everyone was switching over to KoW. I tried to keep the game alive in my area with a couple friends for a good year before the GC came out. We had fun, but I was happy with the GC because it brought a lot of new blood in. It also allowed us to push the community in a more friendly open environment. Unfortunately this means GW is falling back into the previous problems of their other games.
2016/12/21 21:26:39
Subject: Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
I dunno man, look at the cover art and the Magnus model. The legs look really similar and the unarmored torso variant looks like the art. Maybe it'll be a different kit but I can honestly see enough similarity there.
2016/12/21 21:27:22
Subject: Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
The points for the warcrolls are in the Book, it's points are updated, just like the warcrolls themselves. E.g: Tzaangor.
This is the worst thing to hear :( . That means they are likely abandoning the idea of updating points on a regular basis to balance things. It means we're back to the problem an under/over costed model remaining that way till a new book comes out.
I don't think you're reading this correctly. They don't want to hold off putting items out there because they don't have points (and don't want to make people double buy the GHB and App GHB) so they are including points for new models. And based on what we're seeing it's in the same form as the GHB book (i.e. not on each warscroll). So what's actually happening is they are still going to be adjusting points on a yearly basis (hence their asking for feedback for GHB 2) but they'll release points for models when they come out in a format that doesn't require double purchases. They still want one purchase (hence GHB Book or App) but for the in betweens they provide points when they are needed. Granted points may not be updated in this years GHB since there won't be enough time but they could easily be updated in the 2018 GHB if needed.
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2016/12/21 21:28:20
Subject: Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
The points for the warcrolls are in the Book, it's points are updated, just like the warcrolls themselves. E.g: Tzaangor.
This is the worst thing to hear :( . That means they are likely abandoning the idea of updating points on a regular basis to balance things. It means we're back to the problem an under/over costed model remaining that way till a new book comes out.
Meh? They haven't "patched" anything in TGH, and there are some pretty over/undercosted things there. It'll always happen as long as there are measuring things like that.
2016/12/21 21:28:43
Subject: Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
Requizen wrote: I dunno man, look at the cover art and the Magnus model. The legs look really similar and the unarmored torso variant looks like the art. Maybe it'll be a different kit but I can honestly see enough similarity there.
Nah, it still looks much more slender than the Magnus model to me.
2016/12/21 21:29:01
Subject: Re:Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
The Lord of Change on the battletome cover looks like a bird, Magnus more like a mix of a bull and a Space Marine. And the latter still has many SM augmentations
I guess it is related, from Natfka's livestream article (not the LoC)
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2016/12/21 21:29:36
Subject: Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
The points for the warcrolls are in the Book, it's points are updated, just like the warcrolls themselves. E.g: Tzaangor.
This is the worst thing to hear :( . That means they are likely abandoning the idea of updating points on a regular basis to balance things. It means we're back to the problem an under/over costed model remaining that way till a new book comes out.
I don't think you're reading this correctly. They don't want to hold off putting items out there because they don't have points (and don't want to make people double buy the GHB and App GHB) so they are including points for new models. And based on what we're seeing it's in the same form as the GHB book (i.e. not on each warscroll). So what's actually happening is they are still going to be adjusting points on a yearly basis (hence their asking for feedback for GHB 2) but they'll release points for models when they come out in a format that doesn't require double purchases. They still want one purchase (hence GHB Book or App) but for the in betweens they provide points when they are needed. Granted points may not be updated in this years GHB since there won't be enough time but they could easily be updated in the 2018 GHB if needed.
Hope you're right Unfortunate mindset regarding GW. Always prepare for disappointment
2016/12/21 21:47:17
Subject: Re:Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill
2016/12/21 21:49:39
Subject: Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Disciples of Tzeentch
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
