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Alpharius wrote: .maybe not, if the reviews are saying it is awful.
Isn't that a point of contention right now?
It's Star Wars so of course I'll see day of release. I'm tentatively now looking forward to it, although I'm not convinced by the main guy from that trailer. Lando, on the other hand, looks great.
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Hmmm, well I'm definitely not as worried as a first was.
Still not 100% confident, but I will admit it looks like fun if nothing else, which is all I really need from a Star Wars film.
Still don't like the Falcon redesign, and I doubt I'll get used to it (even when it is released for X Wing I won't see it as the Falcon).
I'm wondering if it is indeed The Falcon....could be any old YT-1300 at the end of the day, and the inspiration for why Han wanted one.
Kinda like how your Uncle takes you for a drive in his Jaguar, and you then want one as your first car? Analogy poorly explained, but hopefully you see where I'm coming from.
That it's been labelled that on some toy boxes spotted so far isn't necessarily strong evidence. After all, they through a googly with various bits of TFA and Rogue One marketing, and mocked up boxes are pretty straight forward ways to keep secrets.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I'm wondering if it is indeed The Falcon....could be any old YT-1300 at the end of the day, and the inspiration for why Han wanted one.
Kinda like how your Uncle takes you for a drive in his Jaguar, and you then want one as your first car? Analogy poorly explained, but hopefully you see where I'm coming from.
That it's been labelled that on some toy boxes spotted so far isn't necessarily strong evidence. After all, they through a googly with various bits of TFA and Rogue One marketing, and mocked up boxes are pretty straight forward ways to keep secrets.
It's always been canon that Han won the Falcon from Lando and Han did a lot of customizing/tinkering with the Falcon after he won it.
I don't really understand the complains about the Falcon's look. Its an inconsequential detail, and the altered appearance will probably be explained at some point anyway.
I'd be more concerned that even in the trailer the lead actor seems really unconvinced by his own performance (is that just me?).
Tbf though, those changes weren't quite as large as this change.
Hell, the Falcon changed between 6 & 7.
I'm sure it'll be explained in-movie, and I'm probably being hyperbolic when I say I won't get used to it... but the silhouette is just so different and I do feel this time the change is mainly for new, distinctive merch.
Kilkrazy wrote: Some peopl like new models. It's a shame there aren't more new injection kits from the new films.
Rogue One saw quite a few new injection kits. The U-Wing, that massive shuttle, the AT-AT variant notably got 'easy to build' Revell kits that I saw at Target & Wal-Mart of all places.
I think that the falcon changing between movies is not an issue. Han looks like the guy that always tinkered with such ship, and one has to add that because of his dangerours life, who knows how many pieces were lost in space because of pirates, monsters, empire... and had to be substituted. Also once the falcon became part of the rebel fleet, it makes sense they could have modified it to suit better an all-combat role, I guess.
I doubt I will watch the movie, unless a friend I find very reliable will tell me is the case. For sure, I consider the critics unreliable for SW movies from TLJ onward.
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Lance845 wrote: The teaser actually looks good but i have zero hope for this movie.
Aparently the han solo actor cant act and had to have dialog coaches on set every day to help him. On top of that, who cares? Do we really want to watch han play dice for a ship? Do you give a gak where he got his vest? This is the most inconsequential sw movie.
So far as I’m aware, that was a single, unsubstantiated ‘insider’ quote from a Clickbaor helll-hole?
I suspect that there's truth to it, but that it has to do more with Lord and Miller approaching the material with their improv comedy thing, and Ehrenreich -- who can act -- not really knowing how to pull that off in the context of a Han Solo film.
It confuses me too, and I'm not on set trying to make it work. Remember that the reports were that Kasdan was very frustrated that Lord and Miller were doing their own thing and not shooting the script, and that it was their approach that got them fired. Without knowing more, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to the studio with this one.
Now having said that, it's obviously been a very troubled production, and it remains to be seen if Richie Cunningham can get this thing across the line and resembling a decent film.
It looks good in the trailer, but trailers are trailers.
Personally I'm not that interested in the Han Solo back story, but if Disney are trying to build out new films based on characters from the existing films, there aren't many that are worth expanding on.
Kaiyanwang wrote: I think that the falcon changing between movies is not an issue.
Han looks like the guys that always tinkered with such ship, and one has to add that because of his dangerours life, who knows how many pieces were lost in space because of pirates, monsters, empire... and had to be substituted.
Also once the falcon became part of the rebel ships, it makes sense they could have modified it to suit better an all-combat role, I guess.
I doubt I will watch the movie, unless a friend I find very reliable will tell me is the case.
For sure, I consider the critics unreliable for SW movies from TLJ onward.
Critics = unreliable and as bias as the rest of us - or are operating on behalf of others - see TLJ
Not sure about this - It looks more Rogue One than the Last Jedi crap and the second half of Rogue One was great. Probably wait till it comes on Sky.
Maybe they should have got Guy Ritchie to make it as its a heist type film by the looks of it.
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Kilkrazy wrote: It looks good in the trailer, but trailers are trailers.
Personally I'm not that interested in the Han Solo back story, but if Disney are trying to build out new films based on characters from the existing films, there aren't many that are worth expanding on.
I'd much prefer more in the vein of Rogue One that backstory for specific characters.
Expanding unseen parts of the wider plot can do relatively little harm. But stuff up a character's backstory, and things can go drastically wrong.
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Kaiyanwang wrote: I think that the falcon changing between movies is not an issue.
Han looks like the guys that always tinkered with such ship, and one has to add that because of his dangerours life, who knows how many pieces were lost in space because of pirates, monsters, empire... and had to be substituted.
Also once the falcon became part of the rebel ships, it makes sense they could have modified it to suit better an all-combat role, I guess.
I doubt I will watch the movie, unless a friend I find very reliable will tell me is the case.
For sure, I consider the critics unreliable for SW movies from TLJ onward.
Critics = unreliable and as bias as the rest of us - or are operating on behalf of others - see TLJ
Not sure about this - It looks more Rogue One than the Last Jedi crap and the second half of Rogue One was great. Probably wait till it comes on Sky.
Maybe they should have got Guy Ritchie to make it as its a heist type film by the looks of it.
I mean, if anyone can do a film like this justice I think Ron Howard has a pretty good chance at it.
Alpharius wrote: On the one hand, I'm trying to let the past die, killing it if I have to, but on the other, I'm kinda looking forward to this one too.
What to do?!?
I'll probably go see it, but maybe not, if the reviews are saying it is awful.
Honestly I've pretty much given up on reviewers as a basis for whether or not I see a film now, they've diverged so far from general audience opinion(and, often, my own) that their sole reason for being as far as anyone who isn't a film student has gone. I'll still watch an occasional video review from those reviewers who can have interesting points of view that they're capable of divorcing from whether or not they liked the movie, but you only have to look at the difference between audience and critic scores on review aggregators to see most of the latter seem to have vanished up their own back-passage.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I'm wondering if it is indeed The Falcon....could be any old YT-1300 at the end of the day, and the inspiration for why Han wanted one.
Kinda like how your Uncle takes you for a drive in his Jaguar, and you then want one as your first car? Analogy poorly explained, but hopefully you see where I'm coming from.
That it's been labelled that on some toy boxes spotted so far isn't necessarily strong evidence. After all, they through a googly with various bits of TFA and Rogue One marketing, and mocked up boxes are pretty straight forward ways to keep secrets.
I thought the rumour was that the "heist" they're pulling is the Kessel Run? In which case it deffo is the Falcon.
Either way, I agree with the idea that Rogue One-style new material in the OT(or prequel, or Old Republic, or even better Knights of the Old Republic/Tales of the Jedi) era is better than Characters You Already Know: Junior League style films, but given how hard I've bounced off most of the sequel trilogy I'll take anything I can get in the original setting.
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Kilkrazy wrote: It looks good in the trailer, but trailers are trailers.
Personally I'm not that interested in the Han Solo back story, but if Disney are trying to build out new films based on characters from the existing films, there aren't many that are worth expanding on.
I'd much prefer more in the vein of Rogue One that backstory for specific characters.
Expanding unseen parts of the wider plot can do relatively little harm. But stuff up a character's backstory, and things can go drastically wrong.
Herm. Well, to some extent it would be possible to do a series of films which could be something like:
Guns of Navarone in Star Wars
Bullitt in Star Wars
Mutiny on the Bounty in Star Wars
La La Land in Star Wars
Key Largo in Star Wars
and so on and on -- you get the idea.
However, while technically any kind of story can be put into the general background setting, are they the kind of thing that people would want?
Manchu wrote: I'm keeping in mind that all the Disney SW trailers have been good.
Same here, but I can't lie. I do want to see how Han Solo became Han Solo.
We already have. It's called A New Hope.
We see a slimeball of a character who kills a man across a table to get out of a bad deal. And watch him develop into a loyal man who gets into trouble to save his friends.
It was a good arc, we didn't need to see him before that.
I think slimeball is an illfitting descriptor of Solo in ANH. Even before he comes back to save Luke in the end he's an interesting and likeable character. He shoots Greedo because Jaba put a dead or alive bounty on his head after he failed to complete a smuggling run, that's more bad luck than bad deal.
My biggest concern with the movie is that they'll focus too much on Solo the pilot with an attitude and make him too likeable. He shouldn't be a Starlord knock off. Origin story Solo needs to be the smuggler who's always looking for an angle, is willing to break the law to make money but still has his own moral code, and is always willing to shoot first to save himself. He should be the type of guy that you'd want to have as a friend but wouldn't want to spend too much time with because you'd end up in jail or dead.
One of my biggest complaints with the sequels is that even though both movies have tried to have dramatic moments and show dangerous, lethal, bad things happening but the tone never carries over, the following scenes have the cast defaulting back to normalcy with witty banter and smiles. It's like they're trying to make the SW movies fit into the Marvel movie template.
I wonder if they are going to keep the theme of "singularly named one-off titles" with all the anthology films.
Rouge One was a 'rogue one', Solo is 'solo', etc
Makes me wonder what the Obi-wan movie will be called. "Obi-1"?
