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Do you own a physical copy of the Base Rulebook for 8E?
Yes, from Dark Imperium 30% [ 83 ]
Yes, purchased seperately 44% [ 122 ]
No, PDF or rules pamplet only 17% [ 48 ]
No, some other option (please explain) 9% [ 24 ]
Total Votes : 277
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 Marmatag wrote:


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 Crimson Devil wrote:
I bought the book and bring it with me every time I play. I view it as my responsibility to have access to all of the rules I will need to play. Consequently I am constantly answering questions from those too cheap or lazy to have the rule book with them.


What question at this point could you possibly see that is answered by the core rulebook?


The basics. Army construction seems to be particularly elusive. I'm convinced that most 40k players have never read the rules and simply play by osmosis.

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Reading this thread I get the feeling that many of the Dakkanauts that constantly complain about 8th edition and the new fluff haven't actually read anything of it, just the complaints of other guys on the internet who also didn't read the book...
   
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No, won’t touch 8th edition as it is not a war game
   
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Yep, bought Dark Imperium.

Practically haven't touched it, not sure why.

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Currently Battle Primer, Codex and BattleScribe.

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I was eager to get the BRB when it came out. I am thinking about cutting out the parts I need for games and doing the same to the chapter approved and just putting those pages in a binder. I would have preferred a rule book with all then needed parts to play as a small extra book over the large BRB we got. But that's just me.

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I used to have the BRB. Until one day it disappeared after I set it down at a FLGS and never showed up again. My rather uniquely book-marked BRB. The store had rumors about a particular player having sticky fingers but... Who knows.

After that, and moving away from the location shortly after, I haven't bothered to buy it again. I know the rules needed. The only thing I use from it are missions and deployment maps. If my opponent doesnt have a BRB either, we just play Dawn of War and Purge the Alien. Good ol' slap fight game.

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TeAXIIIT13 wrote:
No, won’t touch 8th edition as it is not a war game


Then I hope you've never played any edition of 40K.

 
   
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 Thadin wrote:
I used to have the BRB. Until one day it disappeared after I set it down at a FLGS and never showed up again. My rather uniquely book-marked BRB. The store had rumors about a particular player having sticky fingers but... Who knows.

After that, and moving away from the location shortly after, I haven't bothered to buy it again. I know the rules needed. The only thing I use from it are missions and deployment maps. If my opponent doesnt have a BRB either, we just play Dawn of War and Purge the Alien. Good ol' slap fight game.


Ugh... that's part of the reason why I refuse to go out and play with anyone else besides my small group. I'm missing out on meeting a lot of good people, but I've read enough stories about stolen models that I'd rather just play in the basement with people I know and trust. Glad it was just a rulebook and not any of the models you spent your blood sweat and tears on.


I bought Dark Imperium last year to introduce myself to the game and get in on the fun. Can someone explain to a noob what makes CA missions better than the BRB ones?

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I ordered the Dark Imperium box and sold off the primaris. I always buy a copy of the new rules set. I enjoy the fluff as well as the rules so.

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 Kelligula wrote:


I bought Dark Imperium last year to introduce myself to the game and get in on the fun. Can someone explain to a noob what makes CA missions better than the BRB ones?


More variety in win conditions and deployment, better incentives to play the mission instead of going for tabling and so forth. Progressive turn by turn scoring in many of them is the biggest difference.

Also, narrative side has the better missions all day erryday. Sieges <3

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Got it in Dark Imperium, and haven't brought it to a game night in ages. Even though I always have to look up the detachments in someone else's BRB.

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I didn't know what to vote. I have more than one full sized one, one of which was from Dark Imperium.

"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."

This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.


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Nope, I've moved on to Kingdom Death - a game that looks to be dramatically cheaper than 40k in the long run.

ETA - if I still played 40k, I suppose I'd get it.

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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Nope, I've moved on to Kingdom Death - a game that looks to be dramatically cheaper than 40k in the long run.

ETA - if I still played 40k, I suppose I'd get it.
I respect the size of your signature but I hope we don't forget Kingdom Death full Kickstarter was.... well I honestly don't remember/know but it was a pretty comedic amount to have the "full set"

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I played 8th once and don´t have any rulebooks or codices for the latest edition.
   
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 DarknessEternal wrote:
I didn't know what to vote. I have more than one full sized one, one of which was from Dark Imperium.


Eh, either yes will do - perhaps go with the one you got first?

I'm mostly concerned with the Yes/No portion. Splitting the Yes gives me some idea of whose "starting" armies vs. whose bringing Xenos or older armies.

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I prefer printed books so yep - bought it with all Indexes

I do miss the mini rule book though

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Yes, biggest waste of gaming $ I've spent in a very long while.
   
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I do not. I have it on PDF and never use that either. I've assembled cheat sheets of the rulebooks main points, and my group plays predominantly narrative based match play games - where we create our own scenarios. As such the rulebook provides very little use. I would, however, purchase a hard copy of just the rules portion for say $25.00

I think we have maybe....two main rulebooks between ten people in my group. It's simply not necessary after reading it a few times over.

PS: The increasing FAQ/Errata/CA changes also make it less and less worthwhile, much like codices. I do own a hard-copy Codex and cards for each of my two main armies though.

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Yeah, I bought one mostly as a talisman to play pick-up games as a store where I didn't know what the protocol was. It never really gets used as most of the lore can be found in one way or another online and the actual rules portion isn't that much of the book and fairly easy learn if you already knew the basics of miniatures wargaming. I like all the various mission scenarios contained within it (I think it is a good source for ideas to create custom missions), but not at the price point I had to pay for the book.

I think I would have been fine with battle primer especially how rarely I play actual 40k anyways.

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Mississippi

Since I wrote my original bit, I did manage to sell my extra rulebook (just had to drop the price a little). I find myself still regretting having that full-blown copy I bought separately. However, I'll likely keep it for posterity - I have the rulebooks all the way back to 2E (my RT copy fell apart on me, so it's gone).

I am glad that I got a (free) battle primer on release day, and between it, the 40K intro magazine and the rules primer from the various sets (Forgebane, can't remember what boxed set the second copy I have came from) - and the PDF version, I'm glad to see that GW is making the rules available in so many ways - but the BRB seems like such a waste.

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Nope. Our club got sent about 200 copies of the battle primer pamphlet and we give them out to every new player who comes in, still haven't gone through half of them by my reckoning.

The only thing that isn't in the primer and is in the BRB is the terrain section and the detachments. And all of them are out of date by FAQs/Beta Rules at this point.
   
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and now today new Beta rules for bolters which will probly be full rules by the end of the year are out.

battlescribe is all i need, gets updated quick enough and i dont need to hand GW any more money than necessary
   
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gaza4 wrote:
and now today new Beta rules for bolters which will probly be full rules by the end of the year are out.

battlescribe is all i need, gets updated quick enough and i dont need to hand GW any more money than necessary


That's a really good point, very little point in buying the BRB itself has all of it is out of date now anyway. Does anyone still play missions from that book? My area is all CA 17/18

Only reason I have the book is because of Dark Imperium, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered.



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 Brother Castor wrote:
Currently Battle Primer, Codex and BattleScribe.

Six months later and I'm now using the following:

BRB
CA 2018
Open War cards
Codex SM
Codex SM Datacards

I'm more invested in the hobby now so need the matched play rules. Once it became apparent that you only need the latest CA I was persuaded. The cards were recommended by people at my local gaming group.

I'm still using BattleScribe for list building though.

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