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The Electro-Proton Bomb is not going to be an issue. The 1-turn delay in detonation means it can be easily dodged but it does reward good play by timing the drop just right. If you catch a big points fortress with it, it's great but big ships are even harder to catch since they move so fast.
   
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Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

They move fast if they can boost. Which isn't all big bases. And if you're going to make sure they can't move fast... you can always use a Nonnac Reddof* to block easy ways out.

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 GamesWorkshop wrote:
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Thinking the bomb dropping Y (in the example list) would serve duty as blocker as well. The thing is though that as with all bombers its not really so much the damage that you can do but forcing your opponent to dance to your tune. As is said the radius of the actual bomb blast is fairly easy to dodge but in order to do so your opponent needs to be moving fast or in a direction that may not be in there interest, if you can force them to split up a formation or move really quickly then hopefully you can trap them in a kill box of your own ships. Of course you can always just ion them, drop the bomb and ion them some more...

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TBH I just don't see it. The area denial works both ways and there are limited arrangements where you get to bomb your opponent for significant value but don't catch your own ships as well (or have to turn away from the engagement to escape). If you launch the bomb they can fly past it and k-turn behind you while your ships are pointed directly at the bomb and forced to turn away. If you drop it they can potentially break away or hold position outside of the radius while you are forced to joust straight at them. And if you fail to set up a head-on joust and they're coming at you from the side (or, worse, multiple directions) then they have even more options for avoiding the bomb while still getting to attack. Without the ability to take more than one of them or immediately detonate it you're relying way too much on being significantly more prepared than your opponent, and if you have such a skill advantage that they don't know how to counter the bomb then you don't need it to win.

IMO it might end up being an interesting gimmick, but unless it's cheap I don't see it getting much use.

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Lincolnton, N.C.

I think that's why people are thinking about Nym with a Y-Wing carrying the bomb, cause he can hold the bomb while your ships are in the blast zone.

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Nym plus another carrier just seems like a hell of an investment for something that has such variable outcomes. It also affects the Nym players just as much as their opponent because the blast range is so wide. You may get more control over when the bomb detonates but the amount of points you've sunk into making it happen just doesn't seem worthwhile. It's not like Nym's been seeing a lot of play in the meta and bombing Y-Wings are fairly rare too. You could go VTG on both but is that more powerful than just taking more VTG Y-Wings in general?
   
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Hyena Preview;
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/5/13/living-starfighters/














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I like that they're using the app to allow them to vary the upgrades available for each ship. So instead of Configurations or Titles you just choose the pilot card with the upgrade you want. Allows them to tailor the ship's abilities to its upgrades which is a good way of doing things.
   
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Lisbon, Portugal

Awesome ship! It'll be so fun to play with it

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"Name one where it did that."
"IT JUST DOES OKAY!"

 
   
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I saw the article title and lost my mind for the second before the picture loaded.
   
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FFG: "hey, let's make a worse version of a 1.0 card that nobody used because it was terrible, 2.0 players will love it."

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Lincolnton, N.C.

What?

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The new and even more terrible assault missiles.

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Lincolnton, N.C.

Assault missiles weren't bad. Especially post guidance chips.

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 KingmanHighborn wrote:
Assault missiles weren't bad. Especially post guidance chips.


They’re too situational.

 
   
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 KingmanHighborn wrote:
Assault missiles weren't bad. Especially post guidance chips.


They really were, thus being almost nonexistent in competitive play.

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Lincolnton, N.C.

If not for Harpoons they'd be the go to in any build with Jostero. On the joust against a formation they could wreck face. Even still I'd seen and used harpoons and assault missiles in conjunction. That double splash was beautiful.

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 KingmanHighborn wrote:
If not for Harpoons they'd be the go to in any build with Jostero.


So, a second-tier option in a list that could be charitably described as "not a relevant part of the competitive meta". Not saying much there.

On the joust against a formation they could wreck face.


"Could" is the key point. They might do some damage, if you made the poor decision to joust a list that wants to line up in formation and joust, if you managed to hit, if they didn't spread out to mitigate the damage, etc. There's a reason they never made any meaningful competitive impact, and now the 2.0 version is worse in every way.

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Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

I saw the N1 pilots in Polish on Instagram, does anyone else know if this has been translated? My Polish is a tad rusty, see.

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 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I saw the N1 pilots in Polish on Instagram, does anyone else know if this has been translated? My Polish is a tad rusty, see.


Havent seen them (nor the Polish leak for that matter). Its only Rik and the Int. 3 we don't know isn't it? Padme and Annie were shown in the video on the last page and the Royal companions (cant remember the proper name) have been shown elsewhere. Got a link?

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Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

Alas no, only saw it fleetingly on Instagram. And since I'm not truly a 14 years-old, I don,t quite know how to find it again and post a link from that gosh darned application.

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
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