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Karol wrote:

-Guardsman- wrote:

Karol wrote:
If my home is burned, they I trouble so deep, that stuff like models or w40k don't matter. when the house that my great grandfather burned down durning the last war, it took my family 62 years to fully rebuild it.

Right, but surely you realize the house fire is an abstract thing. It could also be a car crash or theft. Anything that results in the loss of your models.

I am not very good at the abstract thing. The question was about house fires. Most houses where I live are at leat partially wooden. If there is a fire then nothing is left save for the spout. maybe the oven, if someone still has a brick one, but most no longer have those. But if it was a car that burned, then it is the same thing. Cars cost a lot of money, and you can't just buy them back. So if my moms car burned down, we would have much bigger problems them me not having models to play with. As this would mean someone would have to pick my mom up to work etc.

Yes, but you seem to have missed the forest for the trees here: it's not *specifically* about house fires. It's about the hypothetical of "if you lost all your models, what would you do". This question would fundamentally be the same if it were "a burglar breaks in and steals all your models, what do you do", or "your models are sucked into a miniature black hole, what would you do" - the important part isn't the fire, but the simple act of your models being gone.

Basically, the house isn't the important part of this hypothetical, because obviously everyone would be more bothered about their place of shelter being destroyed than their models (I imagine), but that's just there to frame the main question "if you had to start your hobby again from scratch, how would you do it?".

Hope that clears that up.

Why do you do this to nearly every thread you're in?

I don't understand your question, because am not sure what I do in every thread I write, besides writing, but I don't think your asking why I write, when I write, because that would make no sense. You have to be more specific.

I believe it is referring more to the non-abstract style, which for threads like this, just misses the point of the question.

That's tough. It would probably kill "competitive" play for me and for a while I'd just focus on painting/collecting.

But eventually I'd probably get some DW Marines, specifically all Primaris

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I'd just do it all over again. Maybe do some more cost-effective purchases (ie, buying no Rhinos, but buying Razorbacks instead), but I'd want to build back up to what I had. Battle Companies, infantry platoons, artillery companies, and kill teams galore.

Yes, but you seem to have missed the forest for the trees here: it's not *specifically* about house fires.

most houses where I live are made of wood. only the spout is out of concret, and if someone has an old ove/chimney then it is made out of brick. But even flats in big buildings have wooden floors, wallpapers glued to the walls, and a ton of other flamable stuff. We have a fire fighters in almost every bigger village or town because of that. Plus if your home starts to burn, the whole village can start to burn very fast. It happened durning war to my place. half the village burned down over 40 buildings went down in one night.

Basically, the house isn't the important part of this hypothetical, because obviously everyone would be more bothered about their place of shelter being destroyed than their models (I imagine), but that's just there to frame the main question "if you had to start your hobby again from scratch, how would you do it?".

Well the question in the thread was "you lose all your models in a house fire". So unless house fire means something else in english, then it does here. I have no idea how anyone could think that a question of what would you do an X, suddenly becomes a hypothetical one, where fire isn't really real.

If the question was what would I do, if I lost my models, and had to start from zero, I probably wouldn't, because I can't afford to buy a second army.

I believe it is referring more to the non-abstract style, which for threads like this, just misses the point of the question.

yes, I am not very good at those things in any language. I like simple yes/no stuff the most, but it is hard to communicate like that. abstract stuff is just uneeded and confusing to me. That is why I like sports. Zero confusion or abstraction when someone arm lock your and puts you to sleep.

I would not have the time to repaint them all before my time is up.

So I guess it would be goodbye to the hobby.

CB

I've lived this scenario, kind of...

I came of working age during the dot.com bubble. My income went up above anything my parents had made, then suddenly crashed and I found myself stocking frozen food in a local department store. Later I rebuilt my career and made it up to management in the biggest company in town! And then that company went under, and I spent a very hungry summer in a small town trying to find anything comparable. I bounced back of course, and then was diagnosed with cancer just after adding two children to my family size...

Each time, my 40k collection was liquidated to the Ebay gods to pay another electric bill, or buy another week's groceries, until things got better.

And, each time, I've eventually bought a cool new starter set... and then a few more units to go with the marines, and then some used stuff on Ebay to expand on that... And wound right back where I started, just with different armies.

So, here's to the armies that came and went between 1997 and now:

Ultramarines
2nd Edition Style Goff Ork army
Catachan Imperial Guard army
Rogue Trader minis Imperial Guard army
Cadian Imperial Guard Army
Cadian Imperial Guard Army again.
Sisters of Battle army.
World Eaters Chaos Space marine army
Black Legion Chaos Space marine army
Commander Farsight Tau army
3rd edition Ork army
Numerous Epic armies.
A Battlefleet Gothic collection of Imperial and Chaos ships
Nurgle demon army.
Blood Angel army.
Beginnings of a Knight army (Only had bought one when it had to go)
Stormcast Eternals Vanguard army
Free Peoples army
Adeptus Titanicus Astorum maniple.
Another large Ork army.
A different Blood Angel army.
A goblin spider rider army
A Khorne Bloodbound army

I think... Yeah, I think that's everything. I must be forgetting something I had along the way.

But, I've bought it, I've lost it, I've replaced it. I'm alive, employed, my wife and daughters are wonderful.

And I have a finished World Eaters army, in a case, ready to hit the field whenever I have time to actually play again.

Karol wrote:

-Guardsman- wrote:

Karol wrote:
If my home is burned, they I trouble so deep, that stuff like models or w40k don't matter. when the house that my great grandfather burned down durning the last war, it took my family 62 years to fully rebuild it.

Right, but surely you realize the house fire is an abstract thing. It could also be a car crash or theft. Anything that results in the loss of your models.

I am not very good at the abstract thing. The question was about house fires. Most houses where I live are at leat partially wooden. If there is a fire then nothing is left save for the spout. maybe the oven, if someone still has a brick one, but most no longer have those. But if it was a car that burned, then it is the same thing. Cars cost a lot of money, and you can't just buy them back. So if my moms car burned down, we would have much bigger problems them me not having models to play with. As this would mean someone would have to pick my mom up to work etc.

I think in this case its safe to imagine that, the car wasnt there. Sure, there's all the other horrible stuff, but if by chance the House fire only destroyed where you kept your models, what would you do?

Why do you do this to nearly every thread you're in?

I don't understand your question, because am not sure what I do in every thread I write, besides writing, but I don't think your asking why I write, when I write, because that would make no sense. You have to be more specific.

I think he means take everything so literally, but you answered that in the first part of the post, you arent good at the abstract.

Picturing Mel Gibson in Braveheart, "FREEDOM!!!"

If I lost it all ? I'd probably just walk away at that point. Way too much time and money put into it. Some things you just need to let go and that would be it for me for warhammer even though it's been a long run.

I would re-build some of my other games, but not 40K. I'd let that die. I'm no longer actively buying 40K anyway. I have two completely painted sizable armies, but I'm not following 40K forward.

 carldooley wrote:
Picturing Mel Gibson in Braveheart, "FREEDOM!!!"

As your intestines are pulled out. . . which sounds about right.

 Amishprn86 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
I'd focus on replacing other stuff first, It'd proably be a few years before I touched gaming products again.

My wife went through a house fire, they bought a new SNES, VHS player and some movies , she and her parents said it really helped with the stress oh having nothing. So it might be good to at least start with a small force (something like 500pts).

well thing is, when I say replacing other things, I'm even thinking about hobbies and the like. I'd proably replace my computer and gaming consoles before I got to 40k, and likely wanna try to secure some books. So it's not like I'd not be having entertainment so I could distract myself, just that replacing my 40k army wouldn't be my top hobby priority. not because I dislike 40k, but because I'd be able to sink a lot more hours into my video games then I would a 500 point space marine army.

If I'm depressed and unable to sleep at 2 am I can play video games.... I think someone would kill me if I phoned them for a 40k game at that time.

one I was in position I'd absolutely rebuild, not sure what, I like so many parts of 40k, it;s entirely possiable I'd start a new army.

I play a lot of different miniatures games, often having multiple forces for each. Some are played more frequently/passionately than 40k these days. So 40k wouldn't be the priority.

But yes, I would build more 40k.

I guess if I were to start 40k over from scratch.... I'd start by building the Death Korp of Krieg. Including hunting down the oop DKoK models/FW books.

That'd probably be it for me. If I lost all my warhammer stuff somehow, either through theft or accident or something, I'd just call it there and find another hobby. Probably go back to building Gundam models which are way less expensive, or get back into video games.

Id be devestated, its my worst fear. I'd probably walk away from the hobby afterwards, Id have lost too much

A year or two ago, I would have rebuilt my armies with lslight modification and probably a little bit smaller. Now, I would probably leave the hobby for a long while, maybe forever. Following a move to a new place and the lost of two good friends in a car accident, I lost my gaming group and haven't played since.

Redo my Salamanders as best as I can, even trying to replicate the horrid job I did when I was 10 for some models.

 vipoid wrote:
If I lost all my models I can't see myself buying more.

I wouldn't be able to replace all the conversions I've made over the years, and I doubt I'd have the heart to try and make them again.

Same, I’ve invested a bunch of time.

My Eldar have been with me since almost the very beginning, I voted that I would rebuild with the same colour scheme but nothing would ever replace the sentimentality of those original models and I think that might just drive me away from the hobby.

It's a pretty heartbreaking thought.

As sad as I would be about it, just the idea of having to paint all those models again would probably be enough for me to never touch 40k again. I absolutely hate painting and the goal of having two fully painted armies is within reach.

If money is not an issue I might buy a fully painted army off ebay, just to keep playing, or borrow armies from my friends.

I chose to start the same armies again, as they were before.

I don't paint my models using a known paintscheme. It can use any chapter/ craftworld/ hive, etc, but I don't choose the units of that army to maximise the benefits. Maybe that is why I lose so often
Buying painted armies is not my thing. Aspect Warriors are usually a set scheme, so they get a free pass, but normal units, vehicles, etc, they get my schemes.

Probably take a break for a year or two. If the funds magically dropped into my lap I would still probably play some sort of flavor of Chaos, or maybe Salamanders, I've always liked their color scheme and lore.

I enjoy the collecting, modeling and painting aspects so I would see the loss of my collection as an opportunity to rebuild, if not recreate, my main army. At least my 25 year old models would have received a Viking Funeral instead of landfill in 50 years. My metal Scouts from 1997 would be missed, but they’ve done their service.

I essentially built a new Dark Angels army this edition with Primaris and more Black Knights while retaining some older models in my usual lists. I guess I would simply pick up my brush (assuming it survived the fire) and carry on. Models that I do not use would not get replaced.

It would take a lot more for me to walk away from my favorite army.

Cool thought experiment!

I'd probably be more sad over the loss of memories.

However, specifically for Miniatures, I'd miss the Starfleet Marines the most, as they're near impossible to find nowadays. The people who own the rights to them still make (starship) miniatures, and are on Shapeways, so I'd beg and plead for them to release some new ones on there.

Other than that, I'd be slowly collecting old metal Cadian, Catachan, and Valhallan minis as well as the occasional Vostroyan. Probably some modified GSC Neophytes as filler.

If I lost everything at this point I would never come back. Too much invested and I am very slow at painting and finishing projects to start all over. And I hardly ever actually play.

I would consider it a sign to reduce my number of hobbies, allowing me to invest more in something else I also enjoy.

Cry about all the lost family stuff......... when the hobby urge hit again and money was fine a new army could be acquired.

It would hurt though.

As an aside I thought I lost my Deathwing terminators for a year and then met a buddy at NOVA who had them. He shipped back to me. It was a happy day.

I would probably be done with the hobby altogether. I love it but the cost in paints alone would be high. I have a lot of paints and equipment dating back to the late 80s early 90s. My Orks have a good deal of old stuff in both 40k and fantasy. But if I did get back in it would be on a tight budget and probably playing killteam or warcry. By the way it dosen't take a house fire or other tragedy to lose your stuff. I watched a friend have his epic stuff get ran over while he was crossing the street when he dropped it.

I'm honestly not sure. I feel like something like that might destroy my motivation to keep up the hobby altogether, but if I definitely wouldn't be grateful about it. On the other hand, if my motivation remained intact, I would definitely start a different army to what I'm collecting now; I'd almost certainly go with Genestealers.

"Goodbye my Eldar, hello Tau-et-al..."

This actualy did happen to me
Fort Campbell KY, April 2011, the Apartments outside the Lee Gate, electrical fire in one of the apartments, lost all my stuff

lucky, I had renters insurance, and it paid out quite well

first I decided, entire new army, then changed my mind, and went with the army I know and love, that have been playing since mid 90s, Ultramarines,