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Typhus is more palatable with a good paint job. No paintjob can hide Shrike's emo hair though.

Yeah this was always gonna be a battle between emo shrike and rock album cover typhus

It's gotta be Shrike for me. The old Beakie Shrike was a classic Space Marine character, and I actually own it despite not playing the army. The new one looks like a weird hybrid of Dark Eldar and Tau aesthetics, as if one mashed Drazhar and Shadowsun together with half the dynamism of the old sculpt, and slapped the hair off an emo band or teenage anime character on top

The new Typhus doesn't bother me as much. I own and love the old one, I think the pose on the new one is a bit silly, but I think the paintjob GW gave it that everyone sees is what really drags it down, I feel much the same about the entire Death Guard line, it's all far too too clean and bright. With a decent rusty/dirty/grimy/gross paintjob it's not too bad.

I didn't like the new Typhus when it came out, but its grown on me. I think a lot of photos don't do it justice.

Its kind of the inverse of Drazhar, who I think was my biggest disappointment. Praying Mantis Aspect Warriors perhaps never took but I thought the model and picture were the definition of cool back in 3rd edition. There is now nothing iconic to latch on to. Every DE topic ends up here - but it just seems another step on the slow leaching of character and personality from the faction. Incubi have devolved into just kabalites with a bit of leg armour, fancier helmets and big swords, so it stands to reason the biggest incubi is just... the same but with a bit more bling yeah? Its not a terrible model - just a lame one.

Mixed views on Shrike. I don't particularly like the model - but think "we are emo James Bond wannabe Space Marines" essentially sums up the ridiculousness of Raven Guard... but I realise some people like the chapter.

Really though, the new Masque is probably the model I look at and go "I can see what you were trying, but something really hasn't worked". Same with all the new daemonette scale models barring *maybe* the Enrapturess. There's something I don't like about the scale. Not quite sure how to describe it. Maybe its a bit like how people look at terminators and for some reason go "no, their shoulders are above their heads, I can't cope with this."

But anyway - I think that's the worst model on the list.

 Jidmah wrote:
I think the Mask closely beat Ragnar for me.

Outside of that, I like almost all of the new models. I think the marines all fit their respective chapter really well.


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 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
I don't get all the hate for Typhus, I like him a lot.

It's the pose in comparison to the old one. The old model looks like he's slowly, relentlessly, coming to destroy you. The new one is just another hero pose.

Shrike is the worst though. He looks like he came out of a 90s comic book. Too much extra crap, and that hair, good grief.

Huh. I thought the old one to be a bit bland for the herald of nurgle. The new pose kind of feels like a Typhus would step up on a hill, seemingly facing the enemy alone, raise his Manreaper as a signal and then hordes of poxwalkers would come charging past him left and right, with him being the stoic center of the undead horde.

It's subjective isn't it? If you dig him, cool.

But do poxwalkers really charge past anything? Wouldn't it be more of a shamble?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Ragnar.

Seriously, that pose is just the worst.

I think all Ragnar needs is a bolt pistol in his outstretched hand.

Shrike, Calgar and Typhus are all bad, but Shike is particularly ridiculous.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
...Shrike is the worst though. He looks like he came out of a 90s comic book. Too much extra crap, and that hair, good grief.

Though the way the head's pointing conveniently hides the missing bit if you want to cut the helmet off the belt and swap it back in. I'm still working on a backpack fix.

What's wrong with the backpack? I'm more upset about emo hair and him standing up high enough to be shot at by anyone.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
What's wrong with the backpack? I'm more upset about emo hair and him standing up high enough to be shot at by anyone.

It's plainly a Tau backpack.

Someone just chopped two extra vents off one Reiver backpack and stuck them to another. It looks too big and too cobbled-together. Like someone's drawn a four-armed monster without thinking about the shoulders.

 AnomanderRake wrote:
Someone just chopped two extra vents off one Reiver backpack and stuck them to another. It looks too big and too cobbled-together. Like someone's drawn a four-armed monster without thinking about the shoulders.

Just looked at the 360 as I've only ever seen flat pics of it. Holy gak, that backpack is ugly...

I'd forgotten about the spurs too. Can I change my vote? At least Typhus is salvageable, Shrike is... um, yeah.

Shrike for sure, though I am not a fan of Calgar either.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
But do poxwalkers really charge past anything? Wouldn't it be more of a shamble?

Well, a Monolith could charge past a Death Guard in Cartaphractii armor
I actually face the problem of the pox walkers outrunning him fairly often, especially when they charge.

I agree on the notion that GW's green paintjob on DG isn't exactly beautiful, I painted mine using the white paint-scheme that can be found in the codex pictures and a few store pictures.

I dislike them all, but Typhus is exceptionally awful. It's far too busy and goofy.

I'll be honest, I actually quite like a lot of them.

To be perfectly honest, I didn't like the old Shrike sculpt - didn't look dynamic, and having both lightning claws upwards? Eh, that wasn't a good look in my opinion. And while I miss the lightning claws on what is definitely a more suitable body (like, I never really liked the look of lightning claws on power armour until Primaris or the more slender Mark IV claws), I really don't mind the Primaris sculpt, emo hair and all.

I think the only one which I look at that doesn't elicit any kind of "that's pretty cool" is the Masque, and that's just because it's momentum and direction are just lacking.

Crispy78 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Ragnar.

Seriously, that pose is just the worst.

I think all Ragnar needs is a bolt pistol in his outstretched hand.

Ragnar's just a master of Soresu

I love my Shrike model, one of my favourites. Its not your standard 40K model, and since he is leading a whole new Phobos line...that works for me.

I voted Tigurius, could it have been more dull? Nothing appealing at all, and so similar to original that it didn't need to be changed.

Typhus. Don't mind Shrike, presumably that haircut does not indicate the same thing 40k years in the future and it's an amusing enough wink at the audience for me.

 bullyboy wrote:
I love my Shrike model, one of my favourites. Its not your standard 40K model, and since he is leading a whole new Phobos line...that works for me.

I voted Tigurius, could it have been more dull? Nothing appealing at all, and so similar to original that it didn't need to be changed.

I also voted Tigs. Love or Hate a lot of the other models, they inspire some sort of feeling. Tigurius is just is kinda there. And we know they can make great looking primaris librarians. Lost opportunity just phoned in. GW can do better.

I voted Typhus. When it originally released I didn't much care for shrike but now that I have him I don't mind it. I left off a lot of the clutter and accessories though. One day I might get the marine version off ebay so I can have both.

Dai wrote:
Typhus. Don't mind Shrike, presumably that haircut does not indicate the same thing 40k years in the future and it's an amusing enough wink at the audience for me.

Presumably, it does. Since the Raven Guard are like emo space marines, Shrike has an Emo haircut. I think it's great and hilarious, personally, though I don't play RG.


Anyway, I didn't like Calgar. I don't like the twin power-fists look anyway, and the underslung weapons are weird, and his pose is like "what exactly is he doing?" [to his credit, so is his older models. It doesn't really make it better.]

Shrike, for his part, also have a weird posed with this gigantic scenic base wall thing. Though, to be fair, compared to his old ballerina model, it is at least an upgrade.

Please include an option for those of us who don't think any of these models are bad.

Calgar's model is silly, but at the same time looks like it could have come right off the 2E cover art (aside from just not being red), and really fits that whole early GW era "Heavy Metal"-esque visual, so I give it a pass on nostalgia's count

 Vaktathi wrote:
Calgar's model is silly, but at the same time looks like it could have come right off the 2E cover art (aside from just not being red), and really fits that whole early GW era "Heavy Metal"-esque visual, so I give it a pass on nostalgia's count

I have to give the extra nostalgia push back and say the 2nd Ed Calgar is still better. While both models have a raised fist, the older model manages to have a nice flow while the new one looks really awkwardly static.

I voted for shrike, just thought it looked a bit too silly.
I have both versions of typhus and admit the original is better.
Not keen on Calgar, sometimes a nod to the past isn't a good thing. Similar to why those wide legged spread armed poses are no longer used for character models. (but easy to cast)
I'm not keen on Fabius either, can't get away from the face.

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Calgar for me. The old one in Terminator armour looked badass. The new one is okay, but the pose with the raised fist is just too weird. Typhus is a close second.

"Fear ma stinky armpits, foul xenos filth!"

or would that be

"Toot, toot! ma arm!

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For me, it would be shrike. Helmet or no, like the older "Shiroken" model better.

<Edit: I want THIS Calgar model>

 Togusa wrote:
Please include an option for those of us who don't think any of these models are bad.

except that the option here isn't "
what one do you think is bad" but "what do you think is the worst?"

you can tink they're all really good while admitting "yeah abaddon is the one I'm least the fan of"

When looking at some of them, i notice how it feels like so many marines have there foot up on a rock. The right foot :O

Even Shrike has his right foot up lol, Where i put my vote.
Some of the others not great as well, but i forgot they existed and got a release

BrianDavion wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Please include an option for those of us who don't think any of these models are bad.

except that the option here isn't "
what one do you think is bad" but "what do you think is the worst?"

you can tink they're all really good while admitting "yeah abaddon is the one I'm least the fan of"

I like them all equally.