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Made in gb
Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

Another week in lockdown, another update.

Regarding the Daemon Prince. I did put together a blank alternate head using green stuff, but overall I just wasn't happy with it. Had the overall look of a mannequin with a couple of slits for eyes, which I envisioned to be glowing, but it just didn't look right when put together. I don't think there's enough of a void within the helmet itself to give that effect, even with the super-duper black you can clearly make out that it's a green stuff head.

With that in mind I decided to scrap the head and just go with the original idea. In the meantime I've added a couple of lengths of guitar wire to the neck to fill out that blank spot a bit and to give the impression of cables/tendons. Little messy with the putty but I think the effect works, will post photos in the next update.

I've managed to work on the Hydra-LoC a bit, and am pretty happy with how I've blended the third head into the chest.





I've used Vallejo Plastic Putty which is *much* smoother than green stuff. It's not suitable for load-bearing components IMO but is great at getting a smooth surface, and would definitely recommend it to use in conjunction with green stuff. I think the harsher lighting in this photo emphasises the putty, it's much smoother in reality.

Dreadnoughts are coming together nicely. Not much in terms of posability with these ones, as the legs are all one component which attach to the feet. With my previous Loyalist Dreads I discovered that 3 strategic cuts in the leg allow you much more posability in the legs. With these however not so much Don't judge the Loyalist Dreads too harshly, they're all salvage jobs from about 5 years ago.



I think there may have been a cockup with the primer on the left one however, as some of the detail was a bit obscured, particularly the edging on the torso stripes which I had to rescribe with a very sharp knife. An hour later and with a couple of sliced fingers, I seem to have fixed it.

Decided to give these guys a bit of character with the basing. For one I just kept it simple with a couple of cracks, similar to the LoC. For the other I used some Marine spare parts to make a crushed/buried casualty, in the colours of my own Marine army, which I think is a nice little tie-in.

To wind up this update I've finally got back round to the Rubrics, and the first batch of 5 is nearly complete. I had to redo the Sorcerer's helm after I attempted to do a glowing-eye effect and failed miserably. No matter, I'm still happy with the squad.

In the next week or so I hope to work more on the Rubrics and Scarabs, with hopefully some more progress on Ahriman and the Exalted Sorcerers. If I can muster up the courage to attempt tiny script I'll also get the LoC's staff painted up and attached at last.

Cheers,
Valk

   
Made in au
Alluring Mounted Daemonette




Australia

Three headed LOC came out top shelf mate, well done on a wonderful centerpiece for the army. It seems like such a natural conversion I'm surprised I haven't seen a bunch of them before - inspired stuff!

Nice progress on the box dreads too - the bases are a great way to spice them up. I tried to find your cleanup work on the chestplate but couldn't pinpoint it!

Purple robes are a nice contrast to the rubriks. Everything looking good so far, keep it up!

t z you are k 
   
Made in gb
Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

 tzurk wrote:
Three headed LOC came out top shelf mate, well done on a wonderful centerpiece for the army. It seems like such a natural conversion I'm surprised I haven't seen a bunch of them before - inspired stuff!

Nice progress on the box dreads too - the bases are a great way to spice them up. I tried to find your cleanup work on the chestplate but couldn't pinpoint it!

Purple robes are a nice contrast to the rubriks. Everything looking good so far, keep it up!


Thanks very much I admit the LoC was a bit of a bugger to add the extra head, as there was a fair bit of carving and shaping on the third neck to minimise the gaps as much as possible but overall I will blow my own trumpet and say I've done a good job

With the Dreads I think the brown washes have covered up the cleanup work well, I'm more confused as to why the primer suddenly decided to mess it up. Same model, same primer, same circumstances, yet the other one turned out absolutely fine. Weird.

   
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London



Something big is coming...

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Alluring Mounted Daemonette




Australia

Hmmmmm - thats a big box of minis! Is it the Tzeentch battleforce box for AoS? Can't remember if TSons or CSMs got one too...

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t z you are k 
   
Made in gb
Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

Nope, it's something 40k.

   
Made in gb
Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

So, another week gone, some more updates. How the bloody hell is it February already?

Anyone look at the recent update and try to guess what's within? Probably not the most competitive option but I decided to treat myself to a Defiler! I've always loved the Defiler since I saw it for the first time in 4th Edition. It's just an awesome concept and the model appears to have aged well compared to a lot of the sculpts from the same period.

Putting this thing together is a bit weird however. Starting with the 4 legs they appear to be 2 pairs of slightly different legs, and while the legs are a fixed angle, a dry run of fitting them to the chassis is proving difficult to get them aligned and level.

Moving onto the claws, there appears to be an annoying void in the claw inner face. While this would be barely noticeable on the final model I thought I'd fill it up to make the claw look a bit more substantial.



As you can see it's quite extensive. To save on putty I first filled the void as much as possible with scrap sprue and shavings. A very generous application of plastic glue caused the mass to go a bit rubbery and helped with keeping it below the surface of the final product.



Once this had dried a layer of green stuff was applied and smoothed out as much as possible. It doesn't have to be dead-flat, but it's filled the void up and given a bit of mass to the claw itself.




As well as the Defiler I've been doing the odd bits on the remaining Exalted Sorcerers. I was getting a bit sick of painting the space effect, taking some time away from that aspect has renewed my energy to carry on and here is the next cape to show off.



Pretty happy with this one. IIRC, there's two more to go.


Daemon Princes

I decided to take a step back from the Daemon Prince, particularly as I was stuck in a massive rut as to what colours to go with. Did lots of Googling and I couldn't really find anything I fancied; the vast majority of TS or Tzeench Princes were almost entirely blue, which for some reason I found a bit too comical.

I also had plans to add some extra character to the model when playing about with some Vallejo plastic putty. I applied a very generous amount to a length of wire and after a short drying period, was able to manipulate and pull it about to resemble lightning or warpfire. I took this a step further and created a warp-ball-lightning/blast effect using a large green stuff ball, mounting it as if the Prince is summoning from his staff.



I'll be honest, I wasn't happy with the result. Something just didn't sit right with it. I think it didn't convey the lightning effect as much as I wanted. I have since scrapped it, although I may return to it in the future should I find a better alternative.

Silver linings however, as the delay to putting this guy together found me the *perfect* head replacement. I've mentioned that the Morghast skull itself was a bit too equine for my liking, and I've found an excellent replacement from the Defiler. It's a very Iron Warrior-esque helmet that after some carving fits very nicely in the Morghast helmet.



I admit the metallics haven't come out as planned, perhaps a bit too thick. Not that this is before any significant layers of wash have gone down so I may be able to save it yet.

The silver armour doesn't really tie the model into TS a lot, so I've extended the nebula motif to his wings. I've then gone back over the wing spars(?) with a lighter blue to distinguish them from the blue nebulas, and a blue wash will hopefully make the difference less stark.



For some reason I did have the major shakes trying to paint the wing spars, will go back over them another time to neaten them up.


Well that it for now. If you do read this, please do comment. Any comments and critiques really are appreciated.

   
Made in de
World-Weary Pathfinder






Very pretty in a cosmic horror way, so, very Tzeench I actually like the bright wing spars (fingers? that's apparently what they're called with bats), they look like something spidery encroaching upon the stars.

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Made in gb
Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
Very pretty in a cosmic horror way, so, very Tzeench I actually like the bright wing spars (fingers? that's apparently what they're called with bats), they look like something spidery encroaching upon the stars.


Thanks very much. I do like the metaphor, and I've also learned the proper terminology, so everything's going well

   
Made in ca
Deranged Necron Destroyer






I agree, I love the wings! Brilliant way of tying the Prince in to your other TS!

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Now i feel that this thread's been a bit under appreciated

I agree with the others, the nebulas turned out great, and this DP head switcharoo, bravissimo.
It's stuff like that that makes an army stand out

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Love the psychedelic take on Tzeenchian changery. Big kudos for adding the third head to your LoC so late in the process - big risk, but it paid off. Looks great, would love to see an army shot.

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Made in gb
Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

Thanks very much everyone. It was certainly daunting to try putting the third head on the LoC, but as I said, I would almost certainly not be buying another so thought "sod it" and just went for it.

All the units are a bit of a mish-mash at the moment but will definitely try to get an army shot when I can.

   
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Prince is looking very bling. I think MobileSuitRandom is spot on with the spider encroaching on the stars metaphor *shudders*

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Made in gb
Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

Thanks for all the recent comments everyone.

Quick update today, have spent some time putting together the Defiler. The overall chassis is now completed. As I said previously getting the legs in an even and level position is pretty difficult, made worse by the fact that this is an old kit (possibly 3rd Edition era?) and the ball joints are just slightly too loose to get a proper tight fit.

The abundance of useless Zoom meetings for work however gave me plenty of time to get it set. at which point I noticed a couple of key issues:

1. While the 4 legs look identical there's actually 2 pairs, one of which are extended a bit more and as a result slightly longer than the other. While the slightly longer pair is expected to go at the back of the chassis I decided to reverse this as it'd be overall steadier, particularly in regards to my next point.

2. It's quite easy to build this without considering the balance. Once the turret and extra parts are added it does have a pretty unequal weight distribution towards the front, meaning you'll have to position one of the claws to prevent this happening. I was planning on gluing some lead sheet leftover from renovating the roof inside the chassis to act as a counterweight, but in my haste I had glued this pretty firmly before I realised.

Speaking of posing the claws, I do like how there's a real freedom here with your poses. You can for example go with the Paint Caddy




...or The Thinker...




...or the Angry Old Man.





I think overall I'll have to go with the Angry Old Man, just reversed so the Power Scourge has some clearance. As mentioned, one of the claws has to be down to stop this thing tipping forward but I think it'll work.


Have made a couple of additions to the Daemon Prince. I tried going over the fingers on the wings with a blue wash, but it just came out as an uneven stain and didn't work, so I went back over with a stark white instead.




I've also properly fixed him to the base as well as made a few more improvements, such as the warpflame on his staff as well as a wash of Citadel Violet on the skin to tone it down a bit. Next steps would be to finish the warpflame, and I also have a Blue Horror leftover from the Burning Chariot which I'll add to the base.




Thanks for reading folks, until next time.

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Made in au
Alluring Mounted Daemonette




Australia

Hey mate, nice update! Man the Defiler is a big model. I always thought it was kind of goofy looking with the tiny head, but seeing it here without the head makes me wonder if that is not the best build for it - making it walking turret rather than the bellybutton cannon of a pinheaded crab demon. Anyway, the poses are a bit of fun and glad you're making headway with it!

The Daemon Prince looks amazing mate, really well done there. Love the wings tying him into the sorcerers; I think you get better at the nebulae with each attempt. The head swap really comes to life with paint, too, and the base is in a good place even before he gets his little buddy on there.

Nice work!

t z you are k 
   
Made in gb
Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

Cheers mate, you know I did have that thought as well putting the thing together. It's such a tiny head it does look a bit of a joke, might just leave it off in that case. Thanks for the DP feedback, I'm definitely improving my airbrush skills

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I've always loved Defilers myself! It took me eleven years to paint mine, looks like you're working at a healthier pace! My vote is for Angry Old Man.

I like the white membranes on the daemon prince, they stand out really stark from the void.

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Thanks mate, think I'll definitely be going for the Angry Old Man, although Paint Caddy would come in handy at times

   
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Been working on a bit of the Lord of Change today, inbetween setting up an Xbox X and getting over the godawful Six Nations loss.

I tried a couple of times to paint the staff with runes and glyphs, but wasn't happy with the result. Tried using decals from the Rubric box (some neat looking Night Lords runes that double nicely as Tzeench glyphs) but they were too regular and big. After the 4th attempt I was getting the hand shakes so decided to go with the nebula effect again:




Looks pretty stellar IMO, and is a nice bit of fluff to go with this unique Lord of Change; The book is a map of the entire galaxy, and every one of the innumerable pages contains a map of a particular site.

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That's a great bit of lore. You've put some great details onto this Monster, really made him your own. Love that book (it reminds me of The Claw of the Conciliator), it's got a great sense of motion to it.

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Cheers mate, have been thinking up a backstory for him over the last couple of weeks so watch this space!

   
Made in ch
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Yeah, that is one nice piece of fluff.
Stuff like that, ties together unique armies.

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If I had thought of making Spacebook, I would have made Spacebook.

Brilliant, very unique.

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Come very nice work in here, Valkyrie - how far along your initial project plan would you say you are now?

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This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

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yep, beautiful work on that book mate. Nice design choice and you pulled it off. Green glowy eyes look great too!

t z you are k 
   
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That’s a spectacular fallback plan! Much more in keeping with the theme of the force I think too. Nice one!

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London

Not Online!!! wrote:Yeah, that is one nice piece of fluff.
Stuff like that, ties together unique armies.


Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll wrote:If I had thought of making Spacebook, I would have made Spacebook.

Brilliant, very unique.


Dysartes wrote:Come very nice work in here, Valkyrie - how far along your initial project plan would you say you are now?


tzurk wrote:yep, beautiful work on that book mate. Nice design choice and you pulled it off. Green glowy eyes look great too!


gobert wrote:That’s a spectacular fallback plan! Much more in keeping with the theme of the force I think too. Nice one!



Thanks for all the feedback guys. As for the project as a whole I think it's coming together very nicely. My original plan was to have a unit of 20, maybe even 30 Tzaangors, but to me it seems they've dropped down in terms of competitiveness. Next step would be to maybe add another SC Daemons set, that way I have a good unit of 20 Horrors, 6 Screamers, 9 Flamers and a couple of characters to go with them.

For the TS themselves, perhaps another box of Rubrics, although as I've heard rumours that our Codex will be dropping in the next couple of months, may hold back until I hear how they're changing, or if there's any new stuff coming out.


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Ahriman - Disk of Tzeench
Exalted Sorcerer - Disk of Tzeench
Exalted Sorcerer
Daemon Prince with Wings
Lord of Tzeench

Elites
10x Scarab Terminators - 2x Soulreaper Cannons, 2x Hellfires
Hellbrute - Twin Las
Hellbrute - Twin Las
Exalted Flamer

Troops
10x Rubric Marines - Soulreaper Cannon
10x Rubric Marines - Soulreaper Cannon
5x Rubric Marines - Soulreaper Cannon
5x Rubric Marines - Warpflamers
20x Tzaangors - Blades
10x Horrors

Fast Attack
3 Screamers

Heavy Support
Defiler - Twin Las, Scourge
Burning Chariot

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Cool plans! I say buy the extras, we always need more minis right?

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 gobert wrote:
Cool plans! I say buy the extras, we always need more minis right?


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