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I only own the Indomitua marines, so the set with dreadnoughts and bolter primaris marines would be a perfect force expansion...

Has anyone come up with a price yet? I haven't seen one.

They'll almost certainly be in the same price band as the Imperial Fist and Raven Guard boxes that came out alongside the Christmas Battleforces.

$210 in the US, 130 in euros (I think).

 flaherty wrote:
They'll almost certainly be in the same price band as the Imperial Fist and Raven Guard boxes that came out alongside the Christmas Battleforces.

$210 in the US, 130 in euros (I think).

170€
£130

To me, that's too expensive for what those boxes have. You are paying battleforce prices for something which just doesn't have the same value.

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 Egyptian Space Zombie wrote:
To me, that's too expensive for what those boxes have. You are paying battleforce prices for something which just doesn't have the same value.

Well about 25% saving. Guess you aren't buying these models non-discounted then

Looking at the boxes, I'd lean towards the Salamanders or Ultramarines being the most generally useful, if you don't mind the faction characters.

Definitely seem to be built to limit how many copies people want to buy, though.

Back when they never discounted anything (the largest starter sets being an exception I suppose) I used to get more excited about any discount and could talk myself into buying stuff on the strength of the discount alone. These days with more "discount" products available (big starter sets, Combat patrols, Christmas boxes, partworks etc), not so much. I might get the IH box, might not, I think five years ago I'd have been aiming to get that plus one of the others too.

Would I be correct in presuming that these sets are permanent?

zanzibarthefirst wrote:
Would I be correct in presuming that these sets are permanent?

I would assume these are limited, like the Christmas box sets

zanzibarthefirst wrote:
Would I be correct in presuming that these sets are permanent?

Virtually quaranteed to be opposite

 Dysartes wrote:
Looking at the boxes, I'd lean towards the Salamanders or Ultramarines being the most generally useful, if you don't mind the faction characters

Salamanders are big letdown by a huge pile of Intercessors. If some of these were heavy Intercessors, the box would be amazing. Alas.

As for usefulness, I'd rate Iron Hands and IF high if you like dreads or want heavy company. Raven Guard is good too if you find some non-skull helmets to conver Reivers into Infiltrators (funnily enough very easy thanks to included bolters, which like Reivers themselves are among the best SM designs, just let down thanks to below trash rule writing ) And the characters aren't a big problem either, it's easy to 'genericize' them with leftover parts from regular kits...

zanzibarthefirst wrote:
Would I be correct in presuming that these sets are permanent?

Probably not. Thought they might as well be thanks to clown who ruined SM rules, at least until new SM Codex drops

And I can't help but notice Deathwatch had been forgotten again as the only supplement SM army. Bravo GW

 Irbis wrote:

And I can't help but notice Deathwatch had been forgotten again as the only supplement SM army. Bravo GW

I'm not seeing Dark Angels out Blood Angels either, so DW aren't the only ones.

Wrong thread... Too many windows open!

Brickfix wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

And I can't help but notice Deathwatch had been forgotten again as the only supplement SM army. Bravo GW

I'm not seeing Dark Angels out Blood Angels either, so DW aren't the only ones.

Or space wolves.

Removed.

Brickfix wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

And I can't help but notice Deathwatch had been forgotten again as the only supplement SM army. Bravo GW

I'm not seeing Dark Angels out Blood Angels either, so DW aren't the only ones.

First, Supplements are the original 7 books. DA, BA, BT, and SW, as too divergent, had Codex books through 8th and only got kinda-sorta 'supplements' late into 9th but most people still call them Codex because they rely on completely different units than the rest of 'generic' SM. Second, all four of these got a lot of units through 9th edition (and in BA and DA case, also clearly big dump coming in 10th) so you can hardly call them forgotten. Third, it's not even the first case GW forgets DW (see lack of primaris upgrade sprue, named character, and all the other stuff other supplements got for even worse examples). So, way to completely miss the point I was making

Removed.

Brickfix wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

And I can't help but notice Deathwatch had been forgotten again as the only supplement SM army. Bravo GW

I'm not seeing Dark Angels out Blood Angels either, so DW aren't the only ones.

They've already got Combat Patrol boxes, that would be my guess for their exclusion.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Brickfix wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

And I can't help but notice Deathwatch had been forgotten again as the only supplement SM army. Bravo GW

I'm not seeing Dark Angels out Blood Angels either, so DW aren't the only ones.

They've already got Combat Patrol boxes, that would be my guess for their exclusion.

And they all already have 9th edition codexes.
These Battleforces and the IF/RG ones where probably meant to release together with new supplements the their chapters (that would also explain the different design) but wether they cancelled the supplements because everything was delayed or another reason those books are probably not coming so they released the boxsets as Battleforces instead

 Irbis wrote:

Brickfix wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

And I can't help but notice Deathwatch had been forgotten again as the only supplement SM army. Bravo GW

I'm not seeing Dark Angels out Blood Angels either, so DW aren't the only ones.

First, Supplements are the original 7 books. DA, BA, BT, and SW, as too divergent, had Codex books through 8th and only got kinda-sorta 'supplements' late into 9th but most people still call them Codex because they rely on completely different units than the rest of 'generic' SM. Second, all four of these got a lot of units through 9th edition (and in BA and DA case, also clearly big dump coming in 10th) so you can hardly call them forgotten. Third, it's not even the first case GW forgets DW (see lack of primaris upgrade sprue, named character, and all the other stuff other supplements got for even worse examples). So, way to completely miss the point I was making

We had Codex: Deathwatch in 8th, not Codex Supplement Deathwatch - that only came about in 9th. There were 6 Codex Supplements releases alongside the second 8th edition SM 'dex, not 7 - Ultramarines, White Scars, Raven Guard, the infamous Iron Hands, Imperial Fists and Salamanders.

Black Templars are really the only one of DA/BA/BT/SW to get a lot of releases alongside their 9th ed books - seven kits and an upgrade sprue, from what I can count - off the top of my head, BA only got Mephiston, SW got the Hounds of Morkai (and I'll note still don't have their Primaris Lt. in a clampack), and I think DA got Master Lazarus. Sure, they gained units from being a Codex Supplement, but not the dedicated releases of yesteryear, unfortunately.

If you're going to go off on someone, check your facts first.

And if you don't want people to miss your point, try making it clearly first. Given your factual errors, I'm still not sure what your point is meant to be.

If BA are to be the poster boys of the new edition, I doubt they will get a Battleforce.

GW seems to be gearing up to lean in on the "Angels of Death" thing again, so that would also set DA aside.

I wouldn't be sad if either did, but I'm guessing big boxes coming just before or with the new edition for both.

From one of the stores I frequent:

WarGamers Hub wrote:Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I have just spoken to GW and all of the Marine Battleforces are delayed into Australia and New Zealand.

Sold faster than I expected. I decided to not buy any of them and thankfully managed to stick to the decision.

1x combat patrol and 2x Boarding parties (middle one is CP?) /edit - on second thoughts the one with Abaddon more likely

JWBS wrote:
1x combat patrol and 2x Boarding parties (middle one is CP?) /edit - on second thoughts the one with Abaddon more likely

Where is that image from?

It was on twitter but they took it down after fuve minutes.


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Two Boarding Patrols and a Battleforce

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Interesting to see the new Daemon Prince premiere as a single release and in a discount box at the same time.

Abaddon leading anything with "patrol" in its name if hilarious.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get Boarding Patrols for all/most of factions during the Arks of Omens campaign and one Battleforce connected to the lead faction of each book

Wonder what the price point on these is going to be? I could use more heavy intercessors, and am not opposed to another captain. Assault intercessors also have some use.

I'll be interested to see the price. Abaddon is £40 on his own.