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The sergeant is the only one I am mixed on, mainly because of the one handed pose. Rest are fine.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Is it just me, or do the Missile Launchers just look better from this angle?

Sorry, Doc, I think it may be you.

 Flinty wrote:

 alextroy wrote:
The real problem with Desolator marines is missile launcher rifles. Where is the missile exhaust going?

For me that’s the easiest thing to deal with. They are wearing power armour. A bit of rocket back blast is probably not going to worry them that much, although I can see their armour cleaning duders getting really narky about it

Codex Astsrtes gets an update to permit all destructinators to recolour their armour murky grey, regardless of their chapter, just to save on repainting costs

I dunno every time they fire their weapons they take a blast to the face, seems pretty comical but I guess that's where we're at. The only question is if it's intentionally bad or they don't know anything.

Would make much sense if those were 2 separate weapons:

Bulky multi-launcher that could had been build either as Krak or Frag variant.

Or alternatively a chain-fed smart missile launcher.


Edit: And maybe some extra parts and not use stock Intercessors.

I don't think they look bad due to realism issues, I just think they look bad. That's been the general consensus I've encountered IRL.

For me it's the guns top of guns. Too many guns. Give them 1 gun and profile to make worth of it.

Common witk primaris stuff. That melee dreadnought outshoots shooty dreads...

I think the more I look at that box the more I like it, that last picture looks great!

 Dysartes wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Is it just me, or do the Missile Launchers just look better from this angle?

Sorry, Doc, I think it may be you.

Same.
They remind me of nothing so much as teenage me's attempts to build kustom weapon jobs, but for some reason for space marines rather than orks.
Just glue barrels onto barrels and pretend it looks fine.

Does the sergeant’s gun have to be the special one, or is that simply an upgrade that only they can take?

 Flinty wrote:

 alextroy wrote:
The real problem with Desolator marines is missile launcher rifles. Where is the missile exhaust going?

For me that’s the easiest thing to deal with. They are wearing power armour. A bit of rocket back blast is probably not going to worry them that much, although I can see their armour cleaning duders getting really narky about it

Codex Astsrtes gets an update to permit all destructinators to recolour their armour murky grey, regardless of their chapter, just to save on repainting costs

Out of what exhaust port? There doesn’t seem to be one on the Castellan Launcher. These designs are too toylike.

The belt-fed castellan launcher saturates the sky with guided bomblets that rain down on the enemy wherever they hide.

The Castellan Launcher isn't firing rockets/missiles. They're effectively firing airburst rounds. That's why there is an ejection port on the side of it.

With regards to exhaust...it's something that always seems to be forgotten, but the lore has suggested that Astartes have a 'heads-up' linkage to their boltguns. They don't always have to be firing from the shoulder to be firing accurately.

 AduroT wrote:
Does the sergeant’s gun have to be the special one, or is that simply an upgrade that only they can take?

gun only they can take, the battle report shows a squad with all super-krak launchers including the sarge

Here is my unboxing of Strike Force Agastus, with high-res sprue pics for all the new kits, plus a look at all of the assembly options & alternate builds:

https://taleofpainters.com/2023/02/review-space-marines-strike-force-agastus/

Thx as ever I'll read that now.

Chaos boarding patrol sold out exceedingly fast. Wayland reduced their discount on it to 15% too, somewhat ominous (for me at least). Others had their usual 20% discount.

Still showing as available on GW's site when I went to have a look.

With Boarding Patrol boxes, are they looking like being a one-and-done release, or an ongoing box like a Start Collecting/Combat Patrol?

Limited (day of release going by the SM one iirc, though I didn't pay close attention to that one).

I got the CSM Boarding Patrol from Darksphere, although given the ongoing GW supply issues I have no idea if or when it will arrive.

Was very pleased to see that it comes with the Kill Team upgrade sprue, that's an added bonus.

 stahly wrote:
Here is my unboxing of Strike Force Agastus, with high-res sprue pics for all the new kits, plus a look at all of the assembly options & alternate builds:

https://taleofpainters.com/2023/02/review-space-marines-strike-force-agastus/

Any option to replace the stubbers on top of the dread?

Thanks for the review!

 stahly wrote:
Here is my unboxing of Strike Force Agastus, with high-res sprue pics for all the new kits, plus a look at all of the assembly options & alternate builds:

https://taleofpainters.com/2023/02/review-space-marines-strike-force-agastus/

Great review! Makes me happy I grabbed a box from Warpfire. Frankly, the Primaris Lt is one of the figures I am most interested in, as his pose is very remniscent of the old 40K HC. I may have to paint him up as a Crimson Fist.

 bullyboy wrote:
I have 3 marine armies, Dark Angels, Raven Guard, and Deathwatch. Normally I’d be pretty stoked over new marines, but this box just is not doing it for me. Those missile marines are so bad it just makes the box an absolute no buy.

I want. A brutalis and would normally buy the box and flip the other bits a don’t want, normally make back most the cost of the box doing that, but with this I held off and I’m glad I did. There doesn’t seem to be a secondary market for these god ugly missile marines at all. Only seen two sets sell on eBay so far. I would have been left with them or shifted them for a few quid and ended up paying through the nose for the dread.

I really like all the primaris stuff to date but not those guys.

From Goonhammer, I don't know I think I actually like them less mounted on the backpack?

Yeah, there’s just no saving them tbh

Nice paint job? Good weathering, IMHO. But yeah, still looks kinda goofy.

Yeah, they still look awful.

I'm still confused about the whole chain fed gun thing. Do they have a bolter in addition to the little rocket pod thing? Ick, how'd they mess them up THAT bad I'll never know.

I assume the rockets feed from the rear, and rotate to load each tube, then launch all 6 at once

It would make more sense if the barrage bomblet launcher was the weapon mounted on their back, since presumably it doesn't require the same degree of aiming as the main rocket launcher.

I would try out snipping off the backpack vents and mounting the big missiles to fire vertically. Keep the optics on the rifle part, and the. It a bit like the cyclone launcher with a separate targeting array.

As a friend of mine put it: That's a very polished turd, but a turd nontheless.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
As a friend of mine put it: That's a very polished turd, but a turd nontheless.

Exactly.

They must be considered really bad. I've not even seen the usual dakka dislike post of "I don't like them, so I'll only buy 1 box instead of 3".

On another more negative note. GW will have made loads of them as they're SMs. They won't sell many, so expect these turds to be in every SM box set from now on to reduce the stock. :-(

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
As a friend of mine put it: That's a very polished turd, but a turd nontheless.

Exactly.

They must be considered really bad. I've not even seen the usual dakka dislike post of "I don't like them, so I'll only buy 1 box instead of 3".

On another more negative note. GW will have made loads of them as they're SMs. They won't sell many, so expect these turds to be in every SM box set from now on to reduce the stock. :-(

Good maybe poor sales will encourage GW to take some of their Primaris designs a little more seriously