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now just make the gun the same size as the guy carrying it, glue another gun on top, then add a belt feed and hold it like an AR lobbing grenades.

Boom. He's a Primaris Devastationeero. This is what happens when the designers start taking memes seriously. More guns, bigger, dumber! haha lets make a joke of everything. They charge how much for these kids toys again?

I still can’t place what it is they remind me of. I’m sure it’s a film or something.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I still can’t place what it is they remind me of. I’m sure it’s a film or something.

Arnold, in Commando.

Davor wrote:
The hatches would look better if down instead of up. The photo looks so much better.

Must have been designed by a Space Wolves techmarine.

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I still can’t place what it is they remind me of. I’m sure it’s a film or something.

Arnold, in Commando.

Beverly Hills Cop 3, annihilator 2000

 Insularum wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I still can’t place what it is they remind me of. I’m sure it’s a film or something.

Arnold, in Commando.

Beverly Hills Cop 3, annihilator 2000

Going by that Photoshop on the last page, Short Circuit...

Just imagine if this came out today, what people would say:

More positives for sure. Not guns top of guns.

It followed the established design language both for devastators at the time as they transitioned from shoulder mounted to hip fired heavy weapons, and for plasma weapons.

So for the new primaris thingies, while the weapon position matches the devastator aesthetic, it’s the weird mismatch of new weapon components that grates a bit.

A couple of bits from the WH+ report:
-Agastus isn't the Lieutenant, but rather the Dreadnought.
-Desolation Squad Sergeant has a Targeter, giving +1 to his Hit rolls with a heavy weapon.

...how is a Targeter meant to improve your accuracy with NLOS weapons?

I can see how it might help the rest of the unit, but it seems an odd bit of equipment for the Disaster Squad Sergeant to be taking...

 Dysartes wrote:
...how is a Targeter meant to improve your accuracy with NLOS weapons?

Because the targeter knows where the target is, even without direct LOS?

++Position weapon at [this angle] to hit ground target at coordinates [xyz]++

Targeter gives position assist to power armour to hold weapon in right position, like a high tech version of what my car does with steering assist vs road markings?

Brutalis Dreadnought article

Patriarch wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
...how is a Targeter meant to improve your accuracy with NLOS weapons?

Because the targeter knows where the target is, even without direct LOS?

++Position weapon at [this angle] to hit ground target at coordinates [xyz]++

Targeter gives position assist to power armour to hold weapon in right position, like a high tech version of what my car does with steering assist vs road markings?

The targeter may as well be some sort of battle computer that calculates the optimal firing solution and takes stuff like gravity, atmospheric density and so on into account. Basically like modern artillery does, but in spaaace.

Pretty pokey.

You can say what you look about the aesthetic appeal, but at least they fight like a Dread should!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

You can say what you look about the aesthetic appeal

IMO Brutalis is the best looking Primaris dread.

 Dysartes wrote:
...how is a Targeter meant to improve your accuracy with NLOS weapons?

I can see how it might help the rest of the unit, but it seems an odd bit of equipment for the Disaster Squad Sergeant to be taking...

The obvious answer to that question is high flying cherubs with mirrors. Duh!

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

You can say what you look about the aesthetic appeal

IMO Brutalis is the best looking Primaris dread.

It's not like there's any competition? Primaris only have the one Dreadnought, albeit with a new weapon loadout now.

Top gun looks pretty whack but at least shortening those barrels will be simple to do.

 Geifer wrote:


It's not like there's any competition? Primaris only have the one Dreadnought, albeit with a new weapon loadout now.

There is also a scout variant but it has a living pilot so may not caunt as a pure dread.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Geifer wrote:


It's not like there's any competition? Primaris only have the one Dreadnought, albeit with a new weapon loadout now.

There is also a scout variant but it has a living pilot so may not caunt as a pure dread.

Yeah, I guess if you want to count that thing. I wouldn't any more than I'd count a Sentinel as a Dreadnought.

 Kanluwen wrote:
A couple of bits from the WH+ report:
-Agastus isn't the Lieutenant, but rather the Dreadnought.
-Desolation Squad Sergeant has a Targeter, giving +1 to his Hit rolls with a heavy weapon.

Don't forget being able to do 26 wounds in one round. That Deff Dread got rekt.

Wayniac wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
A couple of bits from the WH+ report:
-Agastus isn't the Lieutenant, but rather the Dreadnought.
-Desolation Squad Sergeant has a Targeter, giving +1 to his Hit rolls with a heavy weapon.

Don't forget being able to do 26 wounds in one round. That Deff Dread got rekt.

So we're clear for anyone who isn't specifically sure about this situation?
This was the Dreadnought doing it. to the Deff Dread, which charged it.

Agastus the Dreadnought used the "Strike" profile(billed in today's article as the "anti-vehicle" attack), meaning it was D3+3 damage at 5 attacks throwing at S14(S7 x2 from the Talons in Strike profile, allowing for rerolling Wound rolls in Strike) and it got an additional attack(bumping it to 6 rather than the usual 5) via Shock Assault and having been charged. The AP-4 of the Brutalis Talons made it so that the Deff Dread couldn't save against the attacks.

The real problem with Desolator marines is missile launcher rifles. Where is the missile exhaust going?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Pretty pokey.

You can say what you look about the aesthetic appeal, but at least they fight like a Dread should!

Aesthetic wise, the Primaris dread is millions of times better than the old box Dread that doesn't even look like it can walk. Only thing really missing is some more gun options for a standard loadout but that's not a big deal for now.

 alextroy wrote:
The real problem with Desolator marines is missile launcher rifles. Where is the missile exhaust going?

Up their nasal cavities, it's how they get high these days.

Dudeface wrote:

 alextroy wrote:
The real problem with Desolator marines is missile launcher rifles. Where is the missile exhaust going?

Up their nasal cavities, it's how they get high these days.

Loyalist Scum are Noise Marines, now?

Jeez, let the Traitor Legions have something.

 Kanluwen wrote:
A couple of bits from the WH+ report:
-Agastus isn't the Lieutenant, but rather the Dreadnought.
-Desolation Squad Sergeant has a Targeter, giving +1 to his Hit rolls with a heavy weapon.

Another fun bit: The LT in the Battle Report is Titus.

 alextroy wrote:
The real problem with Desolator marines is missile launcher rifles. Where is the missile exhaust going?

For me that’s the easiest thing to deal with. They are wearing power armour. A bit of rocket back blast is probably not going to worry them that much, although I can see their armour cleaning duders getting really narky about it

Codex Astsrtes gets an update to permit all destructinators to recolour their armour murky grey, regardless of their chapter, just to save on repainting costs

Is it just me, or do the Missile Launchers just look better from this angle?

That angle does hide some of their bulk and ungainlyness.

Still not a huge fan. But that does look better.