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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Smaug wrote:
Whenever I see someone say that the power armor will compensate for something I think of the Simpsons.

It can be a cop out, sure. But folks do seem to forget it’s as much an exoskeletal enhancement as an armour.

Also, I’m willing to bet the launchers have suspensors somewhere.

Sorry, it’s just a little thing that’s been bothering me. Feels lazy and like the armor has plot armor. Do I expect a Haynes guide to power armor? No. Would I buy it? Yes. Of course this all might be because I’m a certified mechanic and like to see how things work, even if this is sci-fi.

Aren’t suspensors supposedly rare?

The rarity has sort of been handwaved away, due to Cawl's age (he was around since the Heresy) and his inclination to experiment and create new technology.

Though you would think the primaris would have jet bikes, and not thicker regular bikes

Bigest problem is they look terrible.

Buy them if you like them. I'll be skipping them and any box I see them in. Just no interest in owning them.

Smaug wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Smaug wrote:
Whenever I see someone say that the power armor will compensate for something I think of the Simpsons.

It can be a cop out, sure. But folks do seem to forget it’s as much an exoskeletal enhancement as an armour.

Also, I’m willing to bet the launchers have suspensors somewhere.

Sorry, it’s just a little thing that’s been bothering me. Feels lazy and like the armor has plot armor. Do I expect a Haynes guide to power armor? No. Would I buy it? Yes. Of course this all might be because I’m a certified mechanic and like to see how things work, even if this is sci-fi.

Aren’t suspensors supposedly rare?

Suspenders were standard on marine equipment back in the day when heavy weapons had movement penalties, so if they have been retconned into being rare they are being retconned back again. Suspensions or not though, those marines are fugly. Love primaris but can’t stand these.

I'll put this here since I guess the Vashtorr Azrael set has Marines, but the new Azrael rules are here, and they're as inspired as you'd think they would be:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/07/is-the-rock-too-tough-for-vashtorr-to-crack-azrael-gets-new-rules-as-the-dark-angels-come-under-attack/

Andykp wrote:
Suspenders were standard on marine equipment back in the day when heavy weapons had movement penalties, so if they have been retconned into being rare they are being retconned back again. Suspensions or not though, those marines are fugly. Love primaris but can’t stand these.

...were the two replacements of "suspensors" there deliberate, Andy, or was autocorrect having a field day again?

 Dysartes wrote:

Andykp wrote:
Suspenders were standard on marine equipment back in the day when heavy weapons had movement penalties, so if they have been retconned into being rare they are being retconned back again. Suspensions or not though, those marines are fugly. Love primaris but can’t stand these.

...were the two replacements of "suspensors" there deliberate, Andy, or was autocorrect having a field day again?

What a space marine does in his 15 minutes of free time a day is his own business.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

Andykp wrote:
Suspenders were standard on marine equipment back in the day when heavy weapons had movement penalties, so if they have been retconned into being rare they are being retconned back again. Suspensions or not though, those marines are fugly. Love primaris but can’t stand these.

...were the two replacements of "suspensors" there deliberate, Andy, or was autocorrect having a field day again?

What a space marine does in his 15 minutes of free time a day is his own business.

No intention of kink-shaming here - just want to know who to congratulate for them.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:
The Mk.19 is a belt-fed 40mm grenade launcher.

Does it have six barrels where individual grenades protrude from each of those barrels like it was some sort of cylinder in a revolver despite also having a belt?

I mean, we're talking about the same company who made the pump-action cylinder-fed bolt "shotguns". They know nothing of how weapons function, and the Primaris Compensators and their Goofy Guns are the latest example, and a particularly egregious one.

See, HBMC, now you got me thinking!

The Mk. 32GL is an incredibly fun weapon system. It's a 6-chambered 40mm grenade launcher that can unload all 6 rounds in about 3 seconds. It reloads via breakdown, so reloading is obviously limited by the gunner.

BUT! It sure would be a lot more efficient if you could design a system that fed the rounds directly into the chamber via a belt drive. I wonder what that would even look like, and could you get it to function?

At any rate, I feel like it may come across that I'm defending GW's design decisions, but that's not really my intent. I'm simply musing on possible similarities between real-world weapon systems and their fantasy-in-space equivalents. For more coolness points, I think it would've been better for the marine in question to not have a belt and instead have bandoliers of rockets like a modern Mk. 32 gunner does. At least then you could turn them into true rocket-firing desperados.

 godswildcard wrote:
The Mk. 32GL is an incredibly fun weapon system. It's a 6-chambered 40mm grenade launcher that can unload all 6 rounds in about 3 seconds. It reloads via breakdown, so reloading is obviously limited by the gunner.

BUT! It sure would be a lot more efficient if you could design a system that fed the rounds directly into the chamber via a belt drive. I wonder what that would even look like, and could you get it to function?

Wouldn't such a weapon look a lot like a Heavy Bolter?

What he's describing is a Milkor grenade launcher. It's no where close to a heavy bolter (or the Desolator Goofy Guns). It's the real life equivalent of this.

The closest to the Heavy Bolter would be the H&K GMG if the GMG fired 25mm self-propelled armour piercing mass-reactive explosives, which it doesn't...

*ahem*

Either way, nothing close to the absurdity of the hex-barrelled belt-fed indirect-firing missile launcher that the Desolators apparently have.

 Dysartes wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

Andykp wrote:
Suspenders were standard on marine equipment back in the day when heavy weapons had movement penalties, so if they have been retconned into being rare they are being retconned back again. Suspensions or not though, those marines are fugly. Love primaris but can’t stand these.

...were the two replacements of "suspensors" there deliberate, Andy, or was autocorrect having a field day again?

What a space marine does in his 15 minutes of free time a day is his own business.

No intention of kink-shaming here - just want to know who to congratulate for them.

Entirely accidental but but it maybe speaks of my autocorrects predilections.