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The problem becomes that the Tyranids originate from outside the galaxy. Do they even work in the same fashion, biologically? It would require a complete genome mapping, something that the Imperium would be hard-pressed to do in its current superstitious state.

I would like to see Gaurd armies with a cold sneezing at the Nids which would probably do more damage then pointing there flash lights at them

don't underestimate lasguns. it's really anoying when you get them in the eye

The 'nids have repeatedly shown themselves to be near immune to anything short of the most ridiculously manufactured deseases that nurgle or the Magos biologos can design. Kraken was destroyed by a Magos Biologos desease, however, when Leviathan rolled in it was completely immune to the desease. Tyrannids are the ultimate in evolution spank, and they actively control their genetics in order to adapt to damn near everything. The only way to kill them is work around this adaptation by hitting them en masse with something they haven't seen before (and you need to infect billions of organisms in a very short time [hours] to do so) or to just use the only thing you can't just adapt to, good old fashion mass firepower.

yeah they tend to scratch. Its that annoying feeling when you get a piece of dirt stuck in your eye

The 'nids have repeatedly shown themselves to be near immune to anything short of the most ridiculously manufactured deseases that nurgle or the Magos biologos can design. Kraken was destroyed by a Magos Biologos desease, however, when Leviathan rolled in it was completely immune to the desease. Tyrannids are the ultimate in evolution spank, and they actively control their genetics in order to adapt to damn near everything. The only way to kill them is work around this adaptation by hitting them en masse with something they haven't seen before (and you need to infect billions of organisms in a very short time [hours] to do so) or to just use the only thing you can't just adapt to, good old fashion mass firepower.

HIV..... you fill a world full of people with HIV infront of the hive fleets path.... world gets eaten in a matter of minutes, entire hive becomes infected.... entire hive can no longer adapt to fight viruses and diseases... nids die.

Yes I shined a $2 laser pointer, er lasgun in my eye once. It  was very annoying.

And I agree.  Jervis Johnson would be the last man standing. I would have  found a nice comfy sofa by then

 

I present to you Chaos Theory in simple terms

Chaos theory: The theory that something can never repeat without the first outcome affecting the repetition.

As regards to giving the nids a bioengineered dose of herpes, any virus still has a base genetic code, thats what the tyranids assimilate, airgo if you did dose them then that particular fleet would take damage, a few years later another would come back toting a surpremely advanced version of super herpes and use it against the imperium. But then its not like the imperium havent stalled the nids before only to regret it at a later date, the ingenious Inquisitor Kryptman managing to get the only two species in the galaxy that actually THRIVED in a warzone to fight each other, they got a couple of decades and even nastier nids and orks... and thats their idea of a grand plan.....

In the grim darkness of the future, hummanity is really really dumb.

I think Nids and Orks will survive in one way or the other, and with orks being connected to the warp (However tenuously) the chaos gods would still exist.

ALL turns to dust. Then we have the sqauts come out of hiding and take over the galaxy after everybody else is dead.

Eldar would survive, because they can run and hide <?

Ork's would survive because there are just so many and they keep coming back.

Chaos would survive because they can always find someone to corupt...

Necrons would survive because there cheap...

Nids would Survive because in my opinion there like a mix between Ork?s and Necrons...

 

That's my view(P.S. Space Wolves would survive because the Fang is impenitreble!)

 

eventually Logan Grimnar will climb on top of the Fang and shout to Pertuboro that he will never blow up his unblowable spacetooth-thingy. and then he will come and blow it up

Posted By Anung Un Rama on 07/18/2006 2:27 PM
eventually Logan Grimnar will climb on top of the Fang and shout to Pertuboro that he will never blow up his unblowable spacetooth-thingy. and then he will come and blow it up

the fang is inpenetrable as the Squats have been mining there for the metal for the space wolves.

I reckon that Nids are not all they are cracked up to be. There is a strategy that would work on them no problem as long as you don't mind losing a few worlds.
Plus, they are outclassed in spaceship battles.
Orks all the way baby.
And all this HIV/Nids stuff is bollox- HIV infects mammals. Tyranids aren't even from this galaxy.

I got $5 on Mr. Rogers (in a blood stained sweater).



YES I know he is currently dead in reality. That means YOU didn't get the f***ing joke!!!

Is it the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny though, really?

*sigh* Yes. It is.

I'm thinking about the farther future in regards to this question. Not two or three editions of the game in the future, but the future as it might "naturabley" progress. IMHO i'd say Orks, Nids and Necrons. Orks reproduce like rabbits on crack and speed. And the way they reproduce "spores" mean they're almost impossible to erradicate, even the Nids would be hard pressed. Nids will still exist because of their infinite adaptability. True one hive fleet could be taken by a disease/virus if masterfully created. The problem is that most hives are nothing alike genetically and that is the Nid strength, their supreme adaptability. Combined with the fact that every planet they visit in uninhabitable to everything but Crons leaves them in the lead. Crons would survive baecause they hibernate and their planets would be mostly avoided by the hive fleets for lack of biomatter.

"Bears are more civilized. A bear wakes up and says *fudge*, its too damn cold outside, I'm going back to bed!"

Posted By Da Boss on 01/29/2007 9:32 AM
I reckon that Nids are not all they are cracked up to be. There is a strategy that would work on them no problem as long as you don't mind losing a few worlds.
Plus, they are outclassed in spaceship battles.
Orks all the way baby.
And all this HIV/Nids stuff is bollox- HIV infects mammals. Tyranids aren't even from this galaxy.

Hey man. A few? Considering the imperium was unwilling to continue the fire break just to stop one solid hive fleet, how would they deal with another Kraken? They are outclassed in space but they can rebuild without the need for any central base of operations. They can eat a few out of the way argi worlds and calve new hive ships. In a capital ship war of attrition the nids will win.

Orks would be fun and doubtless result in some major fireworks. Biggest complication would be continual ork re-infestation of worlds being eaten by the fleet. Eating that much ork (and squiggoth ) dna doubtless make the fex one interesting beast.

The biggest deciding factor would be just how many nids are heading this way. The nids are the only race receiving significant reinforcements from outside the galaxy. If the nid codex was an indication of where GW are going with the fluff then there could easily be fleets of nids heading here after chomping there way through at least one other galaxy. But as you always say every codex builds up that army as the ultimate enemy/protector of the imperium...

Top five survivors:

5. Space Slann (a.k.a. Slann in Space)
4. Chaos Squats (a.k.a. Short Space Marines)
3. Zoats (a.k.a. The Guys Who Are Uglier Than Fimir)
2. Rogue Traders (a.k.a. Warhammer 40K 1st Edition)
1. Ordo Xenos (How can they die if they haven't even been born yet?)

Posted By Pariah Press on 02/14/2007 7:40 PM
Top five survivors:

5. Space Slann (a.k.a. Slann in Space)
4. Chaos Squats (a.k.a. Short Space Marines)
3. Zoats (a.k.a. The Guys Who Are Uglier Than Fimir)
2. Rogue Traders (a.k.a. Warhammer 40K 1st Edition)
1. Ordo Xenos (How can they die if they haven't even been born yet?)

You forget the Sensei.

They never made miniatures for them. Plus, the Inquisition wiped them out; didn't you hear?

Keith Richards will be left at the end...he cannot be killed by conventional means.

Posted By Angron on 07/07/2006 1:25 AM
Oh, and the kroot and nids are going to die off from HIV, sorry blank

Ya know trying to infect 'nids with HIV sounds about as logical as releasing every necrophiliac from the insane asylums when the zombie outbreak happens.  Sure they keep the zombies busy for awhile... but eventually you just have alotta brain eaters with a hard on coming after you. 

I really think you doubt humanity a little too much.  Sure the major civilized worlds will crumble and lose population.... but think of all the backwater planets out there.  C'mon anyone who had ever been snowed in/ trapped/drunk/bored and lone with a member of the opposite sex knows how the time gets passed.  Do not doubt the unending power of the human drive to survive and reproduce.  Eventually there will be enough flashlig... I mean Lasguns to outshine the sun!  And then woe to all the toothy things that go bump in the night!

And also I kinda think of the emperor the way Dennis Leary talks about John Wayne... he ain't dead he's frozen, and when he thaws and wakes up he is gonna be pretty pissed off.  And will take the enemies of man down hard!
Aztralwolf

After thinkin' this over, I will put in my vote on the Necrons.
Why?
When dwindled to %25 of their forces, they disappear. Bits and all. Where do they go? To the repair shoppe! And for all anyone else knows, that shop could be in another universe or plane of reality. They loose a match, retreat, apply some ducktape and BAM back in the fight. No need for reproducing or resources. Just kill til you die, and then you respawn.
Again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again-*SMACK*
(Shut. The fsck. Up.)

This is seriously a laugh out load funny thread, i loved Beef's idea the best, that the squats would suddenly come out of hidding when everyone else was dead and take over. Oompa Loompas rule the galaxy with an iron fist!

But seriosuly,

The Orks would take it for the win.

Why?

So long as they are fighting, they are happy, and a happy race is a succesful race.

They will eventually, in their Orky way, come up with a way to beat all the other races and eventually wipe them out, then they will pile onto giant Roks and fly those bad boys into other galaxies untill the universe is full of fightin, shootin, stompin and smashin.

In the grim darkness of the really far future there is only war, fast, loud cars and rock n roll. And bg guns. And beer. Lots of beer.

Eldar, Hey they have made it this far....Just send some of them through multiple warp gates to disapear and than show up again after a few generations of repopulation. They can go live with the "feral" eldar or the exodites or the harlequin, Hidden away in the webways and just show up again and again and umm well you know. Id have to go study in the black library if this happened. Just lock me in there with a hot eldar women,plenty of food and beer and ill be a super genius, psycher,demonologist, inquisitor with a mountain dew high and lots of tall kids running around...

in my opinion, the Imperial navy (star wars) would come out of nowhere, kick some ass, than get killed by a ork fighta ramming the command bridge

Necrons...They've got a C'tan on mars and some of the background material hints that it'll awake soon.

The Necrons are set to harvest the galaxy, and even the nids stay clear of them. Again, referring to the codex. The Orks would make a sizable dent in their numbers, but would get harvested nonetheless, there are too few eldar and tau.

The space marines and imperial guard allying would be the only hope.