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I recently posted under a different topic, a what if scenario, like what if marines and CSM were "ate by nids" like squats....

Basically what I'm asking is, what would happen, in the future, would the eldar die off, would the necrons return to slumber?

If you had to pick, for the sake of fluff or for the sake of the actual game, what 5 armies would you like to see left in your view of the even more distant future?

My 5 are easy, Orks, Nids, IG, Traitor Guard, and Kroot

All of these races to me seem like roaches and able to survive anything hahaha.

Who would live in your eyes?

In the dark gothic future there is only war!!!

In the dark gothic future there is only war!!!

Yes, but who is destroyed and eliminated from this future?

Emo Guard. They're all sad 'cuz their Marines left them.

Emo Guard. They're all sad 'cuz their Marines left them.

And there will be no new marines, power armor does not look like their little sister's pants haha.

Orks will be around, same with some form of humans. Eldar are dead, Necrons might still be making a rucus. Tau I think are overextending and will colapse. Some new races will prob. be revealed though.

Orks. And the answer is really simple.

It will only be after the Marnies, CSM, Eldar, Tau, etc all kill each other off that the Orks will get their new codex!

It will only be after the Marnies, CSM, Eldar, Tau, etc all kill each other off that the Orks will get their new codex!

Summer 07?

besides that this should be in "fluff for nutters" I would say Orks. why you ask. well, it's simple. there are so many!
Hive fleet after hive fleet gets itself crushed on some Guard or Marine force, but Orks are so busy fighting, they don't even know they're multiplying. NOW THAT are survial skills

Lawyers, car salesmen, and politicians will be the survivors. So lets review:

Eldar: sneaky, manipulative, mercenary, always striving for their own personal end. Clearly the politicians of 40K. They'll be around for sure.

Necrons. aggressive, mysterious, but with the exception of the Loki impersonator utterly lacking in essential people skills. Can't be lawyers and aren't interested in cars that much. So they are clearly outtahere.

Orks. hot rod freaks. Would be at home in a biker bar. Good people all around. The car salesmen will need them to survive. They're in.

Tau: good politicians, but frankly looks like they believe their own PR. All signs point to extermination, stage left.

Tyranids. Eat lawyers and politicans for breakfast (literally). The eldar can't have that. I forsee a new aspect - Genestealer circus show trainer. Here doggie doggie. To keep all her brood from being lured away by eldar doggie treats and catnip, the norn queen will flee to a new galaxy (only to be eaten by a small dog).

Chaos: Tzeentch is the consummate used car salesman. it shall be revealed that, because the Thousand Sons had 2 W's each, they really did have a lot going for them. Only they and the Hello Kitty marines will survive, all others having a heart attack after seeing the chaos possessed minis.

Marines: as noted only the Hello Kitty marines make it out alive, and thats because they were all watching a chick flick when the great cataclism came (so many assault cannons, terminators, and drop pods were forged in one chapter that it imploded space and time creating a black hole that sucked in all MEQ's).

Guard: In the great twilight the guard join with those mysterious manipulators, the Pan Fo to lay waste to all before them. You didn't really think all those gazillions of guardsmen were wiped out in every minor skirmish did you? No, they were building, preparing...

Dark Eldar: well they're really pirates, which except for ninjas; lawyers; and Chuck Norris; survive all based on the rule of kewl.

besides that this should be in "fluff for nutters"

Sorry about that, I didn't know if it was general, or fluff so I went with the broad topic board...

Jfraz, best post ever... Maybe not ever, but it makes you appriciate the grim dark future is not too far off from modern day New Jersey.

Or Deer Park, Texas. We even have the occasional toxic gas cloud and emergency evacuation Hurray!.

That last post made me jump. Jfrazell - did you happen to bring a Black Templar codex to church (I think that's where it was) last winter?  Can't be too many people around Deer Park that play the game.

Assuming that no one's Doomsday device comes online (Ynnead and the Void Dragon being the big ones), I'd put the Orks up on top.  Eventually everyone that's planetbound is just going to get wiped out.  The Necrons are much weaker than they were, and the Orks are much more numerous than they were.  The Tyranids might do fairly well for themselves, but eventually they'll hit the really big Orks on the other side of the galaxy.  Those Orks would then realize that the inner planets aren't as wimpy as they'd thought, and a massive Waaagh would launch itself across the galaxy, repopulating every planet the Tyranids had attacked and slaughtering the last of man- and Tau-kind.  In the face of all this, the Eldar would call it quits and either leave the Milky Way or retreat into the Webway.  The Dark Eldar will still be sitting pretty, since they could care less what happens to the galaxy outside.

Of course the Tyranids they will eat all. And after eating mankind the chaos gods die because there are no emotions they could consit off. The Necrons will fall in the attempt to fight the super space ork elf human assault canon morphing suitstealers.

Other side.  Hockley (waller). 

Besides wife would be displeased if I brought a codex to church. Displeased wife equals Bad Day at Black Rock.

 

jfrazell that car salesmen post cracked me up. Best post ever, (in this forum anyway).

Tau believing their own PR, haha.

Who'll be left? Nids win, necrons sleep (and nids dont attack themin some fluff). everyone else is dead or in the webway.

How lame is that universe.

Chaos would survive. If anybody has heard of the chaos theory, that eventually evrything goes full circle and chaos ensues.

I'm still banking that Cypher reaches Terra and kills the Emporer.... the Emporer becomes a new Chaos god and creates his own Daemon Princes.... and the Emporer and the Imperium rule the galaxy. It's gonna happen...

Oh, and the kroot and nids are going to die off from HIV, sorry blank

Beef, I think you need to read up on Chaos Theory. It has nothing to do with a cycle returning full circle (as in Ouroboros) or a system resulting in complete chaos.
Mathematically Chaotic systems are deterministic yet near-infinitely complex, as opposed to the SciFi/Fantasy idea of Chaos being completely random and unpredictable.

Angron, I agree with you about Cypher and the God-Emperor, although I don't think he will become an actual Chaos god, but rather something different. Chaos gods didn't start of as humans after all.


The idea of 'nids dying off from a human disease is laughable. If it even effected them at all, they would simply adapt to it, absorb it into their gene pool, and learn to use it to their advantage.

In the end, the 'nids and orks, due to constant fighting once everyone else is dead, will probably have merged into one race and moved on from this galaxy, as there is no food left, leaving the remaining Necrons behind and asleep in their tombs, awaiting for a repopulation that will probably never come as there is no biomass left within millions of lightyears due to the 'nids sweeping through space.

Why do you assume the Nids would adapt to diseases? Mayhaps diseases are something utterly (pardon the pun) alien to them. Mayhaps even as we speak (40M years into the future anyway) the common cold is going through the hive fleets like CENSORED through a goose...

Or maybe the Norn Queens will all be tamed by the Tau, and everyone will sing Koombaya for the Greater Good. Then the last remaining Grot, with a stick with a nail in it, will wield ultimate power bauahahhaahhahahahahah (apologies to the Simpsons).

A disease is no different from any other piece of biomass. Sure its smaller, but 'nids need appetizers too.

Here's the problem though.... nids are not the borg! Disease has the same effect on them as it does for everyone else. Anyone seen what a great unclean one can do to a swarm of gaunts in CC with Nurgles rot? There's a book.... I think it's the Space Wolf Trilogy... I don't know.... where the nid fleet becomes infected with a disease and starts producing diseased hive tyrants which are smaller, weaker, and die faster. Also, HIV has no advantage..... except if you count the lowering of your immune system an advantage.... which would make them more susceptable to new diseases..... that's what they get for not cooking their meat....

Posted By blue loki on 07/07/2006 10:35 AM
A disease is no different from any other piece of biomass. Sure its smaller, but 'nids need appetizers too.

 

Argh! First post eaten by the Hive mind!

to restate:  All that water being siphoned and recirculated, all that "biomass" being digested, is rife with the wee little buggers.  Unless the Nids encountered it before they have no ability to deal with it. The bugs pass throughout the hive fleet, and faaster than you can say e coli Hive Fleet Attitude is down for the count.

Yep, such Slaanesh like irony.  The greatest threat to the Imeprium, felled by a yeast infection

 

 

of course 'Nids can be beaten by a cold.
remember the classical War of the Worlds?

No no, War of the Worlds was Martians.

You know, Tech-adepts? Machine-cult? All that artificial limb grafting has left them with a lot of open sores.

The Machine God will fall to acute nasopharyngitis. Mark my words, you have been warned.

I think Tyrnids would be the natural final army left as they are entropy personified, and entropy always wins in the end.

I think Jervais Johnson would be the last man standing

Posted By blue loki on 07/07/2006 10:35 AM
A disease is no different from any other piece of biomass. Sure its smaller, but 'nids need appetizers too.

A virus is different to other biomass. It has its own agenda and the genetic payload to pursue it. It works by getting consumed by its target organism. The Nids might be highly vulnerable to a tailored virus.