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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:24:58
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Game just went to turn 6- it seems Blackmoor was ahead if it had ended at the end of 5? Tony looks poised to move more units into the top left table quarter now...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:26:52
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Calculating Commissar
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Is this the last game?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:26:59
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah, it's for the championship.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/08/28 23:29:24
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:27:09
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Hard to tell who is winning in the battle between the red and gray space marines against the red and gray space marines.
I think I see Draigo's Paladin squad mostly intact in the center, Blackmoor's 3 dreads straddling the northwest and southwest quarters, and a crapload of grey hunters forming a ) shape around them with some stewn about.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:27:56
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Calculating Commissar
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Huh, well now I have something to watch while I work on my homework!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:31:35
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Massive turn 6 from Tony takes the game. Jaws lined up Draigo and 2 Paladins and Blackmoor failed all three iniative tests. He also failed 5 straight 3+ cover saves on a PA squad sitting on an objective in a ruin.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/08/28 23:33:12
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:31:55
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Fixture of Dakka
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Oh sh*t. Njal just jaws Draigo's unit. Took out Draigo and 2 paladins!
Tony's SW wins!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:32:03
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Latest Wrack in the Pits
Decatur, TN
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Tony wins! Great game!
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Learning 7th edition to prove that DE still rule the roost!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:32:09
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Tony repeats! Looks like Blackmoor would've had it if it had ended on turn 5.
Congrats!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:32:18
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It looks like Blackmoor screwed up his shooting phase and shot some scouts that were not involved in the objectives instead of a Grey Hunter squad barrelling onto an objective in the upper left. He could have shot 5 paladins and 3 psyrifleman dreads at the greyhunters, but didn't.
Blackmoor lost and really messed up turn 6. Tony screwed him with the Lord of Tempest rule in the middle turns. He insisted it carried over to another turn. Automatically Appended Next Post: Where was the psychic hood on the llibrarian for the Jaws? It was in the same squad as Draigo.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/08/28 23:32:56
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:33:21
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Pretty good game...I think Blackmoor knew it was over when they got a turn 6.
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'12 Tournament Record: 98-0-0 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:33:41
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Tony Kopach goes 8-0 and wins the Nova Gt
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nWo blackshirts GT Team Member
http://inthenameofsangunius.blogspot.com/?m=1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:35:20
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Congrats to Mr. Tony Kopach!
8-0 is impressive, particularly when you consider the field of competitors.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:35:22
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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On turn 6 Blackmoor could have also moved his dreads to contest the upper left corner objective, the one the Grey Hunters had to run to in order to claim on the bottom of turn 6. It looks like Allan really gave the game away on the last turn. He had it won the whole time. Automatically Appended Next Post: lambadomy wrote:Pretty good game...I think Blackmoor knew it was over when they got a turn 6.
He had it won on turn 5, but Allan still had the game won on turn 6. He shot the wrong unit and didn't move the Dreads to contest the upper left objective. They still eneded up tieing the primary - table quarters - and Tony won the objectives 3-2. (did the strike squad in the bottom left still live at the end? I missed it.) Alan would have then won of KP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:40:01
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Dankhold Troggoth
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No, the strike squad in the bottom left died :-/. So I don't think he actually was close on turn 6.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:41:18
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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I think the squad on the bottom left bit it to random bolter fire, lots of terrible saves in a row. But you're right, there was movement that was skipped or ignored by Blackmoor. I missed the beginning of the game so I was just assuming those dreads were immobilized.
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'12 Tournament Record: 98-0-0 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:41:43
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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When did the strike squad die? Turn 6?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:41:54
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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DarthDiggler wrote:
Blackmoor lost and really messed up turn 6. Tony screwed him with the Lord of Tempest rule in the middle turns. He insisted it carried over to another turn.
Actually I think you could even say that the use of Living Hurricane affected the entire game because it slowed down Blackmoor's Paladin squad with Draigo in it right when Tony was maneuvering away from them. Blackmoor only rolled like a 4 or 5 to move and then failed to roll range to assault a Rhino, which if he had done so, would have put him within striking range to assault a Grey Hunter unit in the next turn if he wanted to.
However, with those negative movement affects, that unit kind of just drifted around the center point of the table never being able to get close enough to do anything worthwhile.
But oh well...them's the breaks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:43:02
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Dankhold Troggoth
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I think he didn't do it because it didn't matter- Tony had 2 objectives on the right side of the board- right? Maybe he could have killed those grey hunters that ran to contest, would that have made it 2-2?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:43:23
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Alan only had one objective if i remember correctly after turn 6. the middle one.
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nWo blackshirts GT Team Member
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:43:25
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Dankhold Troggoth
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DarthDiggler wrote:When did the strike squad die? Turn 6?
Yes, I think so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:47:29
Subject: Re:NOVA Open Live Feed
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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I thought it was an awesome game. I thought Blackmoor had control of the game for the entire thing, and Tony was merely doing what he could to keep it close. He seemed very flustered on bottom of 5, and things fell his way on 6. I think it was a great game. Really impressive, he is 24-0 in the W/L format for the 3 major tournies that have had that for 8 rounds. Also, considering he was in Europe just a few days ago at another big tourney. Hats off to Blackmoor as well, going 7-1 with a close last game is no small feat. Nice job guys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:49:02
Subject: Re:NOVA Open Live Feed
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Tony used murderous hurricane on the squad not njals table to affect the movement of draigo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:50:29
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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On turn 6 Alan had the middle objective and the lower left objective right? He had to have those two objectives in order to block the lower and upper right objectives Tony had. That means the game goes to KP which alan had.
Living Hurricane should never have affected the Paladins at all because the power doesn't carry over to the next game turn. This really slowed Alan down in the middle on the game and prevented him from assaulting a rhino. Getting to that Rhino would have put him in assault range of a Grey Hunter squad on the next turn. Instead Tony was able to use that unit to help kill off the 3-man paladin squad in the trees.
It appears it would have made a big impact if Living Hurricane didn't carry over from the bottom of turn 3 to the top of turn 4.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:52:10
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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The strike squad died in turn 6. Lots of 1s and 2s to storm bolter fire I think. It seemed unlucky.
And I think we're all in agreement that having his movement slowed and missing a charge because of it was brutal for Blackmoor. I've lost games because I went with an opponents interpretation of a rule before that was incorrect but never with this kind of stakes. I wonder if they actually did change the ruling from the FAQ or not. Anyway water under the bridge now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:52:46
Subject: Re:NOVA Open Live Feed
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Darkwynn wrote:Tony used murderous hurricane on the squad not njals table to affect the movement of draigo.
No he Murderous Hurricane the 3-man paladin squad up top. That unit took one wound from it and then had to make 3 dangerous terrain checks on the next turn to move. Tony told Alan that Njalls Tempest power cast Living Hurricane and all his guys within 24" (Alan asked twice about the range) would be moving in difficult terrain on the next turn. On the next turn (top of 4) Alan tried to assault the rhino with Draigo and was told to make a difficult terrain check because of Living Hurricane.
Watch it again. I started posting about that when it happened.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:53:12
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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The strike squad in the bottom left died from shooting in turn 6
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nWo blackshirts GT Team Member
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:53:35
Subject: Re:NOVA Open Live Feed
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Darkwynn wrote:Tony used murderous hurricane on the squad not njals table to affect the movement of draigo.
No, he cast Murderous Hurricane on the non-Draigo Paladin unit (which caused them to take dangerous terrain tests when they moved), but when Draigo's Paladin squad (the one in the middle) moved, he also forced him to take difficult terrain tests for that unit because of Living Hurricane (which is incorrect per GW's FAQ).
But honestly, these things happen all the time despite what everyone on the internet wants to moan about. I can guarantee that if you watch ANY game played at a fast pace in any tournament you will find some instances of rules screwed up or played incorrectly from your perspective. Its always going to happen when you have as complex a game as this with so many rules nooks-and-crannies.
None of it takes away from the accomplishment or either player IMHO, just pointing it out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:56:57
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It of course takes away the accomplishment. It turned the game big time. Tony plays Njall all the time. He should know that one. He's got the Baron's leadership memorized from the DE codex, but he forgets the one thing that kills Njalls Tempest power. The one rule that hampers him and cuts his powers in half. Of course he knew. In fact when Alan questioned it Tony didn't back down.
You can say the 2000pts and the format of the tourney is to much for seasoned players who play all the time with their armies. It's to much for those 'great' tourney players that they need to rush and make mistakes. That doesn't sound to good for futire 2k tourneys, but this wasn't the case. The game wasn't rushed and they finished early.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:57:28
Subject: NOVA Open Live Feed
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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As much as the live feed gives realtime tourney information and gaming, the amount of calling players cheaters when they mess up some trivial things. Remember that both Dash and Tony were playing 5 games earlier on Fri, 4 games saturday, and 4 games sunday. For me a normal 5 game GT I tire already after game 4. Also the two of them played the whiskey challenge so that is 14 games over the weekend. I remember forgetting to make use of combat drugs back in 4th edition in some games due to mental fatigue.
Most of the players who were in the invitational along with the NOVA reg GT should be given some congratulations for the mental toughness so many games. Too bad NOVA does not have the Iron Man trophy that Adepticon did 4-5 years ago.
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Comparing tournament records is another form of e-peen measuring.
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