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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 10:56:45
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. The first 500pts.
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Well, Nid p0laying friend of mine did a calculation, based off of actually getting a decent number of gaunts out of a Tervigon, he would need about 60gaunts per Tervigon let alone normal gaunt broods already on the table. Biggest issue is how to mark 'em so they remain flexible.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 14:50:19
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. The first 500pts.
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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I'm only going on 30 per tervigon (including the ten to make it troops). If I need more at a later date then I'll add to them, but currently as I'm only building 500pt increments it should suffice (I hope).
the unit marking issue, is something I've yet to figure out unfortunately :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 18:05:39
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. The first 500pts.
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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there was a nic painting scheme programe out there...dunno where anymore... but i bet that either bases or some smaller deatil could be used to seperate the platoons... Automatically Appended Next Post: found it...:
http://www.fallensunasylum.org/nids/online_painter.html Automatically Appended Next Post: it shows every major model and you can plan out to your hearts desire...
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/04/17 18:08:04
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 18:20:29
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. The first 500pts.
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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hmmmm will check that out, thanks Vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 18:30:13
Subject: Re:The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. The first 500pts.
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Well after trying a link Vik sent me, here's the rough look for how my colour scheme is in my head... ish... just imagine it more swampy-like and venomous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 18:44:51
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. The first 500pts.
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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well that is a good start... and you could alter it ever so slightly with one of the carpace purple streaks done in a different color...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 19:06:56
Subject: Re:The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. The first 500pts.
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Which one do you prefer?
No1. Or No 2. ???
Automatically Appended Next Post: All claws and teeth will be bone, whereas the body will be a mossy green, and the carapace a dark green bleeding to a bright yellow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 19:12:14
Subject: Re:The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. The first 500pts.
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Or even, a combination of the two???
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 19:16:23
Subject: Re:The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. The first 500pts.
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Well, since you suggested we leave comments so politely, I like the purple one more. But if you are going for swampy, maybe have some brown streaks or veins running across the carapce? I like it though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 19:17:35
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. The first 500pts.
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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So thats a vote for number one so far then?
okidoke ^_^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 19:19:27
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. The first 500pts.
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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i like the thrid sugeston ...also i like the second as a statement for the toxic nids you wanted... but for the swampy look jake has sure hit the nail on the proverbial head^^
some brown drybrush accents on the carpace sure would add lots of depth and would also look more massive...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 19:21:26
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. The first 500pts.
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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I'll be using my FW weathering paints for mud on the body and legs for the muddy look. as the bases will be Secret Miniatures blasted wetlands ones. so will have wet effect on them too. ^_^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 19:25:04
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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also i think you should look into gloss varnish for some parts...remember that yucky look of them aliens aliens? teeth and so on could be done in that fashion...also those brainlike looking things some nids have could be done that way...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 19:34:35
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Lols you mean Zoanthropes... yeah the brains on them are going to be fleshy opaquey lols.
Yeah I'll most likely get some varnish too as well as some inks. as I want an oily/venomy look on them.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, what do you think, if I made the purple on the third scheme, more fleshy?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 19:59:12
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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fleshy would look too...everything that brings the scheme more into the realms of gross would be a good decision...
and i meant this bit here:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 20:28:48
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Thats an adrenal gland symbiote. I'll be doing those along with Toxin sac symbiotes a slightly differing colour scheme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 20:34:25
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Battleship Captain
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I love the combo scheme, especially if they are hiding in senic mud and tree basing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 20:34:34
Subject: Re:The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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I like the green and yellow scheme as it has a more natural feel to it ( don't ask me why though ) although I do like the green and purple but have seen it way to many times before.
Have you got a splat of paint that you are thinking of using, just so we can see the 2 colours together in a more realistic tone
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 20:38:31
Subject: Re:The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You are undecided because you are all over the color wheel, and that is why none of them look right to you.
Green and purple are perfect contrasting colors, unnatural, but plausibly alien one could argue.
But your Green and yellow are complement colors
Since you spammed our threads for advice  ...
I'll spam you a reply I gave someone else today asking about what colors to paint his buildings on a Brown table:
Ignore anything ever written in any of GW's publications regarding color theory, they make it much more complicated than it needs to be, it just confuses me.
If your board is an earthy, leather brown, find it on the color wheel
I am assuming you'll find it around 12:00 or 1:00, and you'll see it's either under yellow, or orange. (your mileage may very- I'm assuming it is similar to GW Cobra Leather)
Basically, if you add enough white, your brown will end up more yellow (outside of the wheel, or tint),
if you add black (or complement colors- more on those in a minute), it will end up darker (center of the wheel or shade)
So, if your brown is at 12:00 on the wheel....
anything OPPOSITE of it is a perfect CONTRAST color
anything NEXT to it is a COMPLEMENT color
so...how does this answer your question?
black and white are neutral colors, grey is only a mix of them both, so ignore those for the purpose of this discussion.
If the board is brown, anything from teal (11:00) to magenta (3:00) clockwise is a COMPLEMENT color, that means they will blend in together very well.
Anything in the southern half of the wheel is a CONTRAST color, that means it will, well...contrast.
Those are the rules of color that you have no power over, but you are free to work anywhere within those rules.
Although, generally speaking, without contrasting colors in your models (even spot colors) it won't look right to the viewer.
The GW 'Eavy Metal team live and breathe by their triangle spot color rule, that is why their miniatures are always so striking- You can always draw an imaginary triangle from contrast spot colors on their miniatures.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/04/17 20:45:38
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 20:49:15
Subject: Re:The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Then, if I'm following you correctly, the third option I presented seem's the best. Yellow compliments the Green, whilst the Purple/pink contrasts the green.
The whole theme is based on naturally camouflaged, but poisonous creatures. I want fleshy tones for joints, but on the carapace I want something bold and bright to mimic the principals of poisonous creatures.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 20:51:20
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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As has been seen by my pictures both figures and vehicles, I do not play by the GW rules either. Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and I like #3
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/17 20:51:41
"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 20:52:57
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nature makes things that are poisonous colored RED, red is the color of danger in nature, but purple is just as exotic IMHO
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 21:00:14
Subject: Re:The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 21:10:54
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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nature does some very interesting warning schemes in colors...
and dave... i have heard the color wheel lecture so often but yet i liked your lecture the most!  that was quite entertaining!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 21:19:35
Subject: Re:The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Oh and Dave, I did an intensive colour theory course as part of my degree when I was at uni
So here's a slight re-tweek of the proposed colour scheme. as the mixed scheme has more votes for it than against it (I've asked friends irl too lols)
Just remember there will be more tonal depth than the online painter program allows me to do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 21:26:15
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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yep the prog is but a first step...
actually i liked the purple better...that pink is not doing it for me...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 21:34:31
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Yeah I think your right there Vik, the purple joints and hose looks better.
Do you think there is too much green though???
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 21:39:03
Subject: Re:The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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How about?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 21:39:16
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yeah, I know, depth will make a difference, but as far as blocking in the basic color scheme, since yellow is your chitin color, I'd add something bright and poison-ey as a spot color. And remember, if you have to paint a huge mob, keep it simple, or you'll never finish
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/17 21:43:37
Subject: The evolution and adaptation of Hive-Fleet: ΔΣ0113/Ω84. (from page 11) The Colour-Scheme debate!!!
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Yeah thats why I was considering my latest update to the colour scheme above. I think its now a question of painting a few and seeing how it looks.
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