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 bullyboy wrote:
Gotta be honest, incursors look terrible in red, even more so with yellow helmets. If I do ever add phobos to my Dark Angels, they will be a mix of green and black. They work great in my Ravenguard colours though.

I think they just look bad in Blood Angels red. I'm working on Blood Ravens, and while my Infiltrators (same it) aren't done, their armor is and they look nice in a dark red. But I agree, the yellow helmets are 'meh'. The Blood Angels need to hire a better uniform designer.

Blood Angels are TOO red, if that makes sense.

 ScarletRose wrote:
That's kinda the point isn't it? To price it and include characters so new players will buy 1 and current players will buy 0-1
.

Is it? I'm really puzzled by a business strategy that centers around 'don't buy this product. Maybe once if you absolutely have to, but we'd rather you didn't.'

Red, gold and black go well together. Red, yellow and blue do not. And painting helmets a different color from the rest of the armor almost always looks bad, regardless of color. That photo unfortunately combines bad colors with a bad color scheme and the results are, well, predictable.

Voss wrote:

 ScarletRose wrote:
That's kinda the point isn't it? To price it and include characters so new players will buy 1 and current players will buy 0-1
.

Is it? I'm really puzzled by a business strategy that centers around 'don't buy this product. Maybe once if you absolutely have to, but we'd rather you didn't.'

They want everyone’s next purchase(s) to be the full-price separate kits rather than the discounted price of the collection.
These boxes are the thing they put on the shelf to sell to parents of new players so lil’ Timmy can have a “whole army” in one shot.

That's simplistic, but I dunno if you're doing it deliberately for effect or not. Yes, they definitely want you to spend as much as possible, but for some people, you won't get much out of them at all unless they feel they're getting value.

Still hope for the Chronomancer and Pyschomancer today if the Blood Angels stuff is scheduled for December....

I'm wondering if we will start to see the first major wave of Space Marines this week.

yukishiro1 wrote:
Red, gold and black go well together. Red, yellow and blue do not.

If the yellow and blue are on top of each other they do.

And painting helmets a different color from the rest of the armor almost always looks bad, regardless of color. That photo unfortunately combines bad colors with a bad color scheme and the results are, well, predictable.

That really depends. There are a lot of really good color schemes with off-color helmets, but it needs to compliment and/or reinforce other colors on the model.
A fully codex-colors cheme BA army invariably looks awful, especially if there are a lot of veteran sergeants and the company and squad marks are in there as well.
Its even worse than the full rainbow of aspect warriors because you can see individual parts of models throwing everything out of whack.

It always amused me that they tossed out the Black with touches of red and white color scheme of dark angels, but codified and doubled down on Blood Angels and their terrible mish-mash for various unit types and ranks.
Its a very 2nd edition primary color atrocity.

Yeah off colour heads can look really good, all just depends. I personally always liked this one a lot but there are loads of examples where it works great

 Sasori wrote:
Still hope for the Chronomancer and Pyschomancer today if the Blood Angels stuff is scheduled for December....

I'm wondering if we will start to see the first major wave of Space Marines this week.

Only 40K pre-orders are the Plague Marines of Space Marine Heroes Series 3 and a deck of playing cards.

This week you can preorder a set of playing cards that will be available for 10 minutes. If you miss them, don’t worry. You can always pick them up for five times the price on eBay

I'll give GW a little bit of credit for apparently giving you the option to order a full set of the six SM Heroes models, rather than forcing you to blind buy repeatedly until you get the set.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
Still hope for the Chronomancer and Pyschomancer today if the Blood Angels stuff is scheduled for December....

I'm wondering if we will start to see the first major wave of Space Marines this week.

Only 40K pre-orders are the Plague Marines of Space Marine Heroes Series 3 and a deck of playing cards.

Spoiler:

Yeah, I guess I'll stop hoping it's going to be "next week" and just be happy when it comes out...

So, the Sunday Preview shows off the Space Marine Hero Death Guard models. Are they going to be available globally? I know the first wave got And I think the UK got access to the Terminators from series 2. I'd definitely buy a few of these guys, as long as the price isn't jacked up

tneva82 wrote:

 Overread wrote:

yukishiro1 wrote:
No, they're really stringing them out for some reason.

Well the pandemic and all has hit GW's production system hard. Plus they are backed up with releases for other systems too. Heck I suspect we got what was originally going to be two separate waves of Necron releases in one go already. I suspect starter sets, codex, terrain and such would have originally landed closer to Indomitus; then around September we'd have had the second wave and then a third wave later; instead we got waves one and two in one go and now there's a gap for the last which is likely going to be into next year.

It might even be that Indomitus wave 2 has pushed the new models further along as well.


The good side of it is that we've got time to buy and build without getting too overwhelmed in one go.

Why people put everything under covid? Gw has long history of stretching releases and as sisters showed it still exists.

because GW was having some production issues due to it's factory expansion, then covid hit and GW's basicly been unable to keep supply up with demand for anything,

changemod wrote:
Honestly it’s amusing but confusing that marines have gone so long without any full kits relasing, just pushfit and characters.

Sadly, I think full kits are going the way of the dodo. I had hoped this edition would bring them back for Primaris Marines, but with everything we see for 40K and AoS now, it seems like GW has no intention of making models that way ever again.

We've seen them already though.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

changemod wrote:
Honestly it’s amusing but confusing that marines have gone so long without any full kits relasing, just pushfit and characters.

Sadly, I think full kits are going the way of the dodo. I had hoped this edition would bring them back for Primaris Marines, but with everything we see for 40K and AoS now, it seems like GW has no intention of making models that way ever again.

We know for an absolute fact that we're getting full kits for Bladeguard Vets, Eradicators, Assault Intercessors, Heavy Intercessors, the new grav tanks and the primaris land speeders.
They aren't going away, they've all been shown off, at least partially. And thanks to the codex, we know the weapon options in each.


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 GaroRobe wrote:
So, the Sunday Preview shows off the Space Marine Hero Death Guard models. Are they going to be available globally? I know the first wave got And I think the UK got access to the Terminators from series 2. I'd definitely buy a few of these guys, as long as the price isn't jacked up

A good question. It'd be nice to know if its just a tease and they're only available to select countries.

BrianDavion wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Overread wrote:

yukishiro1 wrote:
No, they're really stringing them out for some reason.

Well the pandemic and all has hit GW's production system hard. Plus they are backed up with releases for other systems too. Heck I suspect we got what was originally going to be two separate waves of Necron releases in one go already. I suspect starter sets, codex, terrain and such would have originally landed closer to Indomitus; then around September we'd have had the second wave and then a third wave later; instead we got waves one and two in one go and now there's a gap for the last which is likely going to be into next year.

It might even be that Indomitus wave 2 has pushed the new models further along as well.


The good side of it is that we've got time to buy and build without getting too overwhelmed in one go.

Why people put everything under covid? Gw has long history of stretching releases and as sisters showed it still exists.

because GW was having some production issues due to it's factory expansion, then covid hit and GW's basicly been unable to keep supply up with demand for anything,

And were those applying to extended release periods in sisters? 2019 releases? 2018?

Nothing so far has been something unusual. Just the standard release pattern for GW.

For GW it's simple. Impulse purchases is A and O. Models sell like 90% of lifetime sales in first few months the more the earlier to release date. If players can't buy kit because you release too much so they can't AFFORD everything GW will lose long term sales. People forget about kit when hype dies and goes to next hyped item.

There's reason why GW has gone for staggered releases rather than everything at once for decades. Last time I checked covid hasn't been with us for decades.

I was hoping they'd bring over the Death Guard sorcerer too, but it's still a cool set so I'll pick that up. And nice to not have to bother getting the blind packs.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
This week you can preorder a set of playing cards that will be available for 10 minutes. If you miss them, don’t worry. You can always pick them up for five times the price on eBay

I think we should ask H.B.M.C. if buying cards from GW is a good idea .

yukishiro1 wrote:
I dunno that they are going to do multi-part kits for everything any more. None of the necron pushfit releases that have been released on their own got reworked into multi-part.

They're still charging for them as if they were multi-part kits though.

MBH and pox walkers never got regular kits either.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
This week you can preorder a set of playing cards that will be available for 10 minutes. If you miss them, don’t worry. You can always pick them up for five times the price on eBay

I think we should ask H.B.M.C. if buying cards from GW is a good idea .

in this case they're playing cards. like a poker deck. probly a safe purchase albiet likely over priced. I'd certainly not get em, but I can walk to a local casino and snag a free deck there if I want so...

Yeah, not gonna bother with those. They look like the same “quality” as the last lot, i.e. none at all. You can get fully-custom card decks from professional playing card printers with shrink wraps and gold foil seals and a proper linen finish for under $2 a deck if you order in the kinds of numbers GW would do for retail. But no, they have to print on the cheapest possible card stock with zero finishing and unsealed edges. If you were to actually play with them you’d end up with a marked deck inside of like two shuffles. Not that you can actually shuffle them properly due to the aforementioned lack of finishing. Just a terrible experience all around.

It’s becoming a little bit of a joke with the lack of releasing half the marines and the dregs of Necrons. I just want the Assault Intercessors and a Chronomancer, but at this rate we’ll be lucky to see it all before Christmas. -_-

 Tiberius501 wrote:
It’s becoming a little bit of a joke with the lack of releasing half the marines and the dregs of Necrons. I just want the Assault Intercessors and a Chronomancer, but at this rate we’ll be lucky to see it all before Christmas. -_-

Seriously. Gimme Heavy Intercessors damnit!

 Billagio wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
It’s becoming a little bit of a joke with the lack of releasing half the marines and the dregs of Necrons. I just want the Assault Intercessors and a Chronomancer, but at this rate we’ll be lucky to see it all before Christmas. -_-

Seriously. Gimme Heavy Intercessors damnit!

Well, Warcry is done, the 'big' AoS preorder is this coming weekend, I assume there's some Underworlds stuff lurking about, but this is probably the end or nearly the end of the non-40k stuff for the year. So... yeah.
Back to marines and hopefully the last couple necrons.

 Billagio wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
It’s becoming a little bit of a joke with the lack of releasing half the marines and the dregs of Necrons. I just want the Assault Intercessors and a Chronomancer, but at this rate we’ll be lucky to see it all before Christmas. -_-

Seriously. Gimme Heavy Intercessors damnit!

Ditto. These are the guys you park on an objective dare your opponent to move them.

Underworlds is December unless something changes