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 Ratius wrote:
Why? Sisters players have been waiting what 20 years? 2-3 more months wont break your backs


It's our favorite part of the hobby: waiting for nothing. And to get so much of it in one go! How fortunate!

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That site says the battleforces are 145 Euros. What's that in GBP with GW's conversion? £105-110?

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phillv85 wrote:
That site says the battleforces are 145 Euros. What's that in GBP with GW's conversion? £105-110?


They're usually £100.
   
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Yeah they certainly have been the last couple of years, but their pricing structure seems a little more difficult to guess now. Looking at last year's, they were £100 and 130 Euros, so if they are 145 Euro's, then I'm expecting a UK price rise as well.

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 Ratius wrote:
Why? Sisters players have been waiting what 20 years? 2-3 more months wont break your backs


The box isn't a playable army, nor will it be available by the time the things needed to make it a playable army become available. It basically has to be purchased in duplicates blindly or set on the shelf for a couple of months.
   
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 LunarSol wrote:
 Ratius wrote:
Why? Sisters players have been waiting what 20 years? 2-3 more months wont break your backs


The box isn't a playable army, nor will it be available by the time the things needed to make it a playable army become available. It basically has to be purchased in duplicates blindly or set on the shelf for a couple of months.
So... buy the box and paint it. By the time you're done the rest will be out.

My only concern at this point is how full the codex will be and if there will be any new units.

 
   
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phillv85 wrote:
That site says the battleforces are 145 Euros. What's that in GBP with GW's conversion? £105-110?

£110. An example of this is the Catachan mega-bundle or whatever is called. €145 and £110 on their website.


 
   
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 Ratius wrote:
Why? Sisters players have been waiting what 20 years? 2-3 more months wont break your backs


No it just makes it impossible to play the new models at 2 HUGE events in North america and forces us to deal with 'dur hurr, waitng is sisters! dur hur!' people for an extra few months.


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 LunarSol wrote:
 Ratius wrote:
Why? Sisters players have been waiting what 20 years? 2-3 more months wont break your backs


The box isn't a playable army, nor will it be available by the time the things needed to make it a playable army become available. It basically has to be purchased in duplicates blindly or set on the shelf for a couple of months.
So... buy the box and paint it. By the time you're done the rest will be out.

My only concern at this point is how full the codex will be and if there will be any new units.


Why would I waste time painting that when I've got to finish painting the metal models I had to get off of ebay to actually go to LVO or Adepticon?

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 Yodhrin wrote:
Welp, according to rumours on a french forum(http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/272287-battleforce-no%C3%ABl/ - scroll down), not only are we only getting the fancypants box this year, there will be nothing further until February/March 2020.

I could find no such thing in the link provided.
[edit]
Found it http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/272287-battleforce-no%C3%ABl/&tab=comments#comment-3411778

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
Welp, according to rumours on a french forum(http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/272287-battleforce-no%C3%ABl/ - scroll down), not only are we only getting the fancypants box this year, there will be nothing further until February/March 2020.

I could find no such thing in the link provided. Actually, I could find nothing about the Sisters at all. No price of the box, no date for later release. Wrong link?
(I hate that forum)



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Does that read Chaos, Start Collecting Shadowspear?

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phillv85 wrote:
Does that read Chaos, Start Collecting Shadowspear?

Yes.

Worth mentioning that the Chaos Marine stuff in there was labeled "Daemonkin". Nothing's really came of it though.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

I hope those hardcover HH omnibus editions are just regular basic hardbacks that will be part of their regular basic range. It'd be nice to compress the shelf space they use up, but I can't just pull hundreds of quid out of my backside to buy them all rapidly if they're going to have limited availability, and the last thing we need are more superdupersnowflake editions of things.

Does anyone else miss the classic BL hardbacks with simple Library-style buckram covers? Everything the same size, with a uniform spine style, nice and hard wearing. Sigh.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
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Are they not only 10 books into the rerelease of the hardbacks? Could well just be the next 5.

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Welp, the old sisters are gone. RIP. Fare thee well. Your watch is ended. Only in Death does Duty End and all that.

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Preachers and some others are still up so get them while you can.

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The sisters are gone, long live the sisters.

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 Yodhrin wrote:
Welp, according to rumours on a french forum(http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/272287-battleforce-no%C3%ABl/ - scroll down), not only are we only getting the fancypants box this year, there will be nothing further until February/March 2020.

And given the mention of the two months, I'd wager nothing until the final technically-still-February preorder slot, and the rest stretched out over March.

That would be extremely disappointing if true.


GW generally don't release new army ranges in December or January, so I don't know that that is much of a surprise.

I think it's fairly unlikely Psychic Awakening Book 2 will hit before March too.
   
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Someone on the awful bad nasty french forum said exorcist will be 3d3 shots.
http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/260002-s%C5%93urs-de-bataille/page/66/&tab=comments#comment-3412629

(And also yet another total rework of the faith system, yawn)

If true that's a HUUUUUGE buuf. Going from "1 to 6 shots", to "3 to 9 shots", with a distribution more centered on the average (which is, now, 6).
But it's a random user on the bad forum so...

 
   
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 The Phazer wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
Welp, according to rumours on a french forum(http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/272287-battleforce-no%C3%ABl/ - scroll down), not only are we only getting the fancypants box this year, there will be nothing further until February/March 2020.

And given the mention of the two months, I'd wager nothing until the final technically-still-February preorder slot, and the rest stretched out over March.

That would be extremely disappointing if true.


GW generally don't release new army ranges in December or January, so I don't know that that is much of a surprise.

I think it's fairly unlikely Psychic Awakening Book 2 will hit before March too.


January they do (Gloomspite Gitz were January this year).
   
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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Someone on the awful bad nasty french forum said exorcist will be 3d3 shots.
http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/260002-s%C5%93urs-de-bataille/page/66/&tab=comments#comment-3412629

(And also yet another total rework of the faith system, yawn)

If true that's a HUUUUUGE buuf. Going from "1 to 6 shots", to "3 to 9 shots", with a distribution more centered on the average (which is, now, 6).
But it's a random user on the bad forum so...


They stated they are going to make the exorcist less random, I can see 3d3 S7 ap-3 not d6 damage shots happening

if they increase the number of shots there's no way you're keeping that d6 damage, they'll probably move it into more anti-transport/medium armor territory and (hopefully) buff the melta which is our mainstay

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 Grundz wrote:
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Someone on the awful bad nasty french forum said exorcist will be 3d3 shots.
http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/260002-s%C5%93urs-de-bataille/page/66/&tab=comments#comment-3412629

(And also yet another total rework of the faith system, yawn)

If true that's a HUUUUUGE buuf. Going from "1 to 6 shots", to "3 to 9 shots", with a distribution more centered on the average (which is, now, 6).
But it's a random user on the bad forum so...


They stated they are going to make the exorcist less random, I can see 3d3 S7 ap-3 not d6 damage shots happening

if they increase the number of shots there's no way you're keeping that d6 damage, they'll probably move it into more anti-transport/medium armor territory and (hopefully) buff the melta which is our mainstay


I would just like to point out that a Contemptor motis dreadnaught has 4 S9 AP-4 d6 damage shots, hitting on 2s rerolling, no penalty for moving and shooting and doesn't degrade at all until 2 wounds while only being 1 toughness lower and 2 wounds less than an exorcist(with a 5+ native invul and a 6+ FNP. And overwatch on a 5+) for just 43 points more than an Exorcist. And that's ignoring things like easy access to repair, way better character support and EXCELLENT stratagem support. Oh, and it's also considered a borderline option for competitive lists.

3d3 S8 AP-4 D6 damage shots is not outside of the realm of possibility, especially if SoB vehicles still don't get conviction traits or are impossible/difficult to target with stratagems and AoFs like they are now.

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 ImAGeek wrote:
 The Phazer wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
Welp, according to rumours on a french forum(http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/272287-battleforce-no%C3%ABl/ - scroll down), not only are we only getting the fancypants box this year, there will be nothing further until February/March 2020.

And given the mention of the two months, I'd wager nothing until the final technically-still-February preorder slot, and the rest stretched out over March.

That would be extremely disappointing if true.


GW generally don't release new army ranges in December or January, so I don't know that that is much of a surprise.

I think it's fairly unlikely Psychic Awakening Book 2 will hit before March too.


January they do (Gloomspite Gitz were January this year).


But last week of Jan wasn't it? I'd kind of consider that a margin of error tbh.
   
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 Grundz wrote:
They stated they are going to make the exorcist less random, I can see 3d3 S7 ap-3 not d6 damage shots happening
Playing 40k when your entire army has less ranged firepower than a couple of predator tanks. The sisters really need some new unit choices.
   
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A.T. wrote:
 Grundz wrote:
They stated they are going to make the exorcist less random, I can see 3d3 S7 ap-3 not d6 damage shots happening
Playing 40k when your entire army has less ranged firepower than a couple of predator tanks. The sisters really need some new unit choices.


There are literally only 3 guns in all of SoB that can hit the other deployment zone in Dawn of War deployment without moving(fancy way of saying >24" The exorcist missile launcher, the heavy bolter, and Hunter Killer missiles. Space marines have that same number of different long range weapons on JUST the Invictor tactical warsuit.

They could up the exorcist to flat 9 shots and we still wouldn't be all that great at range.

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ERJAK wrote:
They could up the exorcist to flat 9 shots and we still wouldn't be all that great at range.
For 125pts and T8 i'm sure you'd see a bunch of allied Heavy 9 S8 AP -4 Damage D6 exorcists.

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ERJAK wrote:

They could up the exorcist to flat 9 shots and we still wouldn't be all that great at range.


Ive been running tank sisters to good effect, the first turn is a hailstorm of exo shots and hunter killers to scalpel out what I don't want to deal with, then their job is mostly done.

The exorcist is /excellent/ FOR THE POINTS, there are plenty of shootier, more expensive models out there, but for its points, it is a big enough threat with rolling good that your opponent should probably deal with it, and its tougher than it should be for its cost. people get laser focused on how X Y or Z is better for 50% more points. Its a pretty tough backline vehicle that can do some serious damage if the rolls are right

if exo's fire 3d3 shots with the current statline in the new book we're getting into " take sisters just for that tank" territory, every list will have 3 of them and I really can't imagine the purpose of things like dominion sisters in a repressor when you're getting an average of 4-5 melta shots across the entire board every turn for half the points

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 Grundz wrote:
ERJAK wrote:

They could up the exorcist to flat 9 shots and we still wouldn't be all that great at range.


Ive been running tank sisters to good effect, the first turn is a hailstorm of exo shots and hunter killers to scalpel out what I don't want to deal with, then their job is mostly done.

The exorcist is /excellent/ FOR THE POINTS, there are plenty of shootier, more expensive models out there, but for its points, it is a big enough threat with rolling good that your opponent should probably deal with it, and its tougher than it should be for its cost. people get laser focused on how X Y or Z is better for 50% more points. Its a pretty tough backline vehicle that can do some serious damage if the rolls are right

if exo's fire 3d3 shots with the current statline in the new book we're getting into " take sisters just for that tank" territory, every list will have 3 of them and I really can't imagine the purpose of things like dominion sisters in a repressor when you're getting an average of 4-5 melta shots across the entire board every turn for half the points


I want to preface this by saying I don't give a damn about how soup uses anything so long as it's still better in SoB.

The exorcist is excellent for it's points IF YOU'RE LUCKY. My exorcists do so little damage that I end up with them all still alive at the end of a lot of games because my opponent's realize they don't matter.

That is the nature of D6 shots and why, when talking competitive viabilty, exorcists are a...necessary evil, not something you can always feel confident about.

Unfortunately in actuality a contemptor mortis ends up being more resiliant than an exorcist (5++, no degradation, 6+++ > 6++ +1T +2 Wounds), does more damage than an exorcist (4 S9 Ap-4 D6 shots hitting on 2s rerolling vs D6 S8 Ap-4 shots hitting on threes, the contemptor does more damage against T8 even if the exorcist rolls 6 shots), and is far more mobile and reliable than the exorcist (no penalty to move and shoot, doesn't really degrade, guaranteed number of shots) that even adjusting for the exorcist being 40pts cheaper, the mortis still looks better on paper.

And that's in a vacuum with just their CTs. With full army support it's even more in favor of the contemptor because Vessels+the 4++ bubble can't compare to all the support options space marines have.


3d3 shots for 125pts on the exorcists current chassis might be OP, but with Ironhands leviathan's, Sky attack Eldar, Suprise Motherfether! GSC, and Leafblower Guard kicking around, I doubt it. It absolutely wouldn't be good enough to give up doctrine rules, that's for sure.

(Unbuffed IH Contemptor with dual twinlas does 9.05 damage to a rhino chassis and a repulsor chassis. Unbuffed Exorcist with 3d3 shots averages 9.34 damage against rhinos and 7 damage vs a repulsor. Factor in IH having better army support and the contemptor having better mobility and I would say that's pretty close to correct. Maybe go up to 135-140.)


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 The Phazer wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 The Phazer wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
Welp, according to rumours on a french forum(http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/272287-battleforce-no%C3%ABl/ - scroll down), not only are we only getting the fancypants box this year, there will be nothing further until February/March 2020.

And given the mention of the two months, I'd wager nothing until the final technically-still-February preorder slot, and the rest stretched out over March.

That would be extremely disappointing if true.


GW generally don't release new army ranges in December or January, so I don't know that that is much of a surprise.

I think it's fairly unlikely Psychic Awakening Book 2 will hit before March too.


January they do (Gloomspite Gitz were January this year).


But last week of Jan wasn't it? I'd kind of consider that a margin of error tbh.


No. The first week went up for preorder on the 5th Jan, and the rest on the 12th. Maggotkin of Nurgle was the 6th and the 13th Jan 2018 too, looking back at their release.

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Racerguy180 wrote:
agreed, as long as this pricing rings true I'm getting this. Itll be an expensive rest of this month(Salamanders)and next for Sororitas.

Any ideas on the release schedule? besides the boxed set what units/models do you think make it on wave one?
I hope exorcists and immolators are first.

Ok, the only things we've seen previewed in the blog (insofar as I remember) that aren't in the box are as follows:

- Heavy Weapons Sisters (Long time ago now, full render previewed, nothing more)
- Demious (am I getting that right?) Pattern Rhino bits, (Long ago now, only small sections, additional info notable in its absence)
- Sister Hospitalier (Full render, around the same time as the Cannoness)
- The Rhino Upgrade Sprue (recent, but full kit previewed as well as painted version)

From that I would guess that we will see, at the bare minimum; the Rhino upgrade kit (or Rhino with upgrade kit) at the same time as the box (or soon after).
Hopefully we will also see the Hospitalier at the same time & possibly a Retributors Box, though that would be odd if it dropped before a Rank and File sisters box.
I doubt much else, as I don't think they would drop anything without milking they hype first (esp if it were a completely new unit) , but, well; I live in hope.


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