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 ergotoxin wrote:
Not impressed with the Flash Gitz at all. Snazzguns look more like a bike than a weapon, the pose is very boring and the price is horrible. It makes me sad that Central/East Europe gamers are slowly getting outpriced by GW. :(

'Orkanaut has an aweful design as well and the Big Guns look like a Trukk cut in half but will probably be priced more. Hopefully at least the Mega Nobz will be worthy all the teeth they are going to cost.

By the way, what about the Gretchin rumours? Are they still credible at all? I love the current models.

Totally agree with you. Both new boxes are over priced and not that amazing at all compared to the last time we had Ork new models in 2009.

Every one of the 2009 release was well done. they were great for mixing up and kit-bashing.

And im surprised that there are so many who were hungry for ork models for such a long time that no matter what GW ork release is and no matter how expensive. They will justify it for them selves so they can feel good buying it with out any remorse.

how is this new flahsgit kit is not the same price as the nobz set?

since when do we pay for points on TT rather than plastic?

We are the buyer we have the right to raise this as an issue, Rather than defending GW. None of us gets a cheque from them.

 Musibatkhan wrote:


since when do we pay for points on TT rather than plastic?

Never. Neither.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 Musibatkhan wrote:


since when do we pay for points on TT rather than plastic?

Never. Neither.

Lol, exalted for common sense

 Musibatkhan wrote:

 ergotoxin wrote:
Not impressed with the Flash Gitz at all. Snazzguns look more like a bike than a weapon, the pose is very boring and the price is horrible. It makes me sad that Central/East Europe gamers are slowly getting outpriced by GW. :(

'Orkanaut has an aweful design as well and the Big Guns look like a Trukk cut in half but will probably be priced more. Hopefully at least the Mega Nobz will be worthy all the teeth they are going to cost.

By the way, what about the Gretchin rumours? Are they still credible at all? I love the current models.

Totally agree with you. Both new boxes are over priced and not that amazing at all compared to the last time we had Ork new models in 2009.

Every one of the 2009 release was well done. they were great for mixing up and kit-bashing.

And im surprised that there are so many who were hungry for ork models for such a long time that no matter what GW ork release is and no matter how expensive. They will justify it for them selves so they can feel good buying it with out any remorse.

how is this new flahsgit kit is not the same price as the nobz set?


since when do we pay for points on TT rather than plastic?

We are the buyer we have the right to raise this as an issue, Rather than defending GW. None of us gets a cheque from them.

About 100% more parts?

Holy stealth rumour mongering in Zweischneid's sig. Are there any solid rumours that Ghaz is getting the primarch treatment other than some whispers and wishlisting? I'd like the big man to get some well deserved buffs, but this would be unprecedented.

However, if the new warboss model is indeed a new character, and Badrukk gets moved into the HQ section we have two brand new named warbosses to fill in for Ghaz.

 Musibatkhan wrote:
they were great for mixing up and kit-bashing.

The designer for the Gitz designed the old ones too. And he specifically designed their bodies the way he did for kitbashing with the Nobz kits, so I don't see how these are really worse, or less kit-bashable than the older stuff.

 Toburk wrote:
Holy stealth rumour mongering in Zweischneid's sig. Are there any solid rumours that Ghaz is getting the primarch treatment other than some whispers and wishlisting? I'd like the big man to get some well deserved buffs, but this would be unprecedented.

However, if the new warboss model is indeed a new character, and Badrukk gets moved into the HQ section we have two brand new named warbosses to fill in for Ghaz.

As far as I saw there were no rumoured stat/rules changes just Ghaz being moved into the Lord of War slot

of course this will be further annoyance to TO who want to ban LoW, but if this is true will face banning Ghaz a previously playable non-controversial character or having a ban with a specific exception for him (and who knows maybe we'll see Primarchs and others migrate to this slot too)

Why would ghazghkull be a lord of war?

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Musibatkhan wrote:
they were great for mixing up and kit-bashing.

The designer for the Gitz designed the old ones too. And he specifically designed their bodies the way he did for kitbashing with the Nobz kits, so I don't see how these are really worse, or less kit-bashable than the older stuff.

While obviously they will work, the old Nobs did not use a torso/neck/head bits assembly of three parts. These nobs use three separate parts.

Maybe there's a good solid reason for it, that I can't see from studying the sprues, but it certainly seems like you could have made the torsos the same way as the Nob torsos, which would render them fully compatible without additional neck bits. It's not a deal-breaker, or a game-changer, but it's an added fiddly annoyance that seems, on the face of it, unnecessary. This is particularly surprising because of the otherwise excellent quality and quantity of stuff on those sprues.


It also means, for those people buying bits on the internet, that you need to plan on buying Gits torsos and necks, for conversions, so plan ahead.

I could see them doing that, but not without a stat change and likely a new model

I personally love the new flash gitz I would happily pay that price for the contents and I'm an Eldar player, dire avengers nuff said.

Totally agree with you. Both new boxes are over priced and not that amazing at all compared to the last time we had Ork new models in 2009.

Every one of the 2009 release was well done. they were great for mixing up and kit-bashing.

And im surprised that there are so many who were hungry for ork models for such a long time that no matter what GW ork release is and no matter how expensive. They will justify it for them selves so they can feel good buying it with out any remorse.

how is this new flahsgit kit is not the same price as the nobz set?

since when do we pay for points on TT rather than plastic?

We are the buyer we have the right to raise this as an issue, Rather than defending GW. None of us gets a cheque from them.

You have no requirement to not buy the models. If they aren't worth it for you, don't use the models. Either ignore the unit entry or kit bash something.

The Flashgitz aren't priced like Nobz because the Nob kit is criminally underpriced currently. The most likely reason for the low price is likely because when released, the kit was competing against AOBR nob sets and they needed to make them competitive. The nobs are currently not priced like any other specialty/elite 5 man set. They are cheaper than any of the others by almost 50% - 100%.

As far as performance, I used the new flashgitz rules today in a battlewagon. Over the course of a 5 turn game, they did well. They killed 3 obliterators (though the oblits survived two full turns of fire without more than 1 wound until I managed an AP2 roll) then 9 Chaos Marines marked with burgle went down in one turn. In the final turn they killed another 3. So not bad. Spending three turns on oblits diminished their effectiveness, but they paid for themselves and their wagon while suffering no wounds of their own. I still much prefer the old git finder rules, but thy are a STEAL at 22 points each in a wagon.

Has there been any hint at all that Kans will be moved to elites?

Has there been any hint at all that Kans will be moved to elites?

Nope, but we have seen a Kan with two ranged weapons

Da Butcha wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Musibatkhan wrote:
they were great for mixing up and kit-bashing.

The designer for the Gitz designed the old ones too. And he specifically designed their bodies the way he did for kitbashing with the Nobz kits, so I don't see how these are really worse, or less kit-bashable than the older stuff.

While obviously they will work, the old Nobs did not use a torso/neck/head bits assembly of three parts. These nobs use three separate parts.

Maybe there's a good solid reason for it, that I can't see from studying the sprues, but it certainly seems like you could have made the torsos the same way as the Nob torsos, which would render them fully compatible without additional neck bits. It's not a deal-breaker, or a game-changer, but it's an added fiddly annoyance that seems, on the face of it, unnecessary. This is particularly surprising because of the otherwise excellent quality and quantity of stuff on those sprues.


It also means, for those people buying bits on the internet, that you need to plan on buying Gits torsos and necks, for conversions, so plan ahead.

Swappable Necks means that even two Orks with the same torso front could have different accessory bits (like necklaces and/or collars). Unneeded? Sure. But it's a nice option.


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DO IT TO IT wrote:
Has there been any hint at all that Kans will be moved to elites?

I'd expect the M/Gorkanaught or the Deff Dread to be an Elite instead. I don't see Kans moving unless they go Fast so they could be the Ork version of the Sentinel.

I hope we can still Deff dredd as troops and they move the kans to fast or elite. Be nice to take 1-3 deff dredds as one choice .Right heavy support is full

Also the white dwarf doesn't say what slot the Morkanaught takes from what I can find.

In imperial armor 8 dredd mob list the kans are a fast choice so hoping they do that.

 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:
I hope we can still Deff dredd as troops and they move the kans to fast or elite. Be nice to take 1-3 deff dredds as one choice .Right heavy support is full

Also the white dwarf doesn't say what slot the Morkanaught takes from what I can find.

Heavy support as indicated by the icon

People don't like the Flash Gitz?? Am I looking at the same models? They got more Gubbinz than you can shake a squig at!

PapaSoul wrote:
People don't like the Flash Gitz?? Am I looking at the same models? They got more Gubbinz than you can shake a squig at!

Some people just don't like anything GW does.. I for one, love them. Buying 2 boxes to start.. next weekend can't come soon enough!


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 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:
I hope we can still Deff dredd as troops and they move the kans to fast or elite. Be nice to take 1-3 deff dredds as one choice .Right heavy support is full

Also the white dwarf doesn't say what slot the Morkanaught takes from what I can find.

In imperial armor 8 dredd mob list the kans are a fast choice so hoping they do that.

What they might do is, keep the current load out killa kans as heavy support, and the 2 shooting wpn variant, as fast attack. (My hope)

Rubs wrote:
What they might do is, keep the current load out killa kans as heavy support, and the 2 shooting wpn variant, as fast attack. (My hope)

Wouldn't it make more sense the other way around? Close combat is more of a FA thing and shooting is more HS.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Rubs wrote:
What they might do is, keep the current load out killa kans as heavy support, and the 2 shooting wpn variant, as fast attack. (My hope)

Wouldn't it make more sense the other way around? Close combat is more of a FA thing and shooting is more HS.

Has GW ever done that? Place a given model in 2 different FOC sections depending on the weapons?

Unit type doesn't bother me so much since you can now open multiple FOC's.

2 troops 1 HQ is not a hard investment to open up 3 more slots of Elite, Fast and Heavy.

We've got the cheapest troop unit? 10 grots & runtherd @39 points right?

 nflagey wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Rubs wrote:
What they might do is, keep the current load out killa kans as heavy support, and the 2 shooting wpn variant, as fast attack. (My hope)

Wouldn't it make more sense the other way around? Close combat is more of a FA thing and shooting is more HS.

Has GW ever done that? Place a given model in 2 different FOC sections depending on the weapons?

Centurions. Dev Cents are HS, Assault Cents are elite.

 nflagey wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Rubs wrote:
What they might do is, keep the current load out killa kans as heavy support, and the 2 shooting wpn variant, as fast attack. (My hope)

Wouldn't it make more sense the other way around? Close combat is more of a FA thing and shooting is more HS.

Has GW ever done that? Place a given model in 2 different FOC sections depending on the weapons?

Chaos Daemons have the Hellflayer in Fast Attack and the Seeker Chariot in Heavy Support, both made from the same kit.

They might want to re-name one of the killa kan units to something else, but that's not much effort.

 streamdragon wrote:

 nflagey wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Rubs wrote:
What they might do is, keep the current load out killa kans as heavy support, and the 2 shooting wpn variant, as fast attack. (My hope)

Wouldn't it make more sense the other way around? Close combat is more of a FA thing and shooting is more HS.

Has GW ever done that? Place a given model in 2 different FOC sections depending on the weapons?

Centurions. Dev Cents are HS, Assault Cents are elite.

Regardless, Killa Kans won't go to fast attack, they aren't exactly speedy.

If only you had a traktor kannon in reverse polarity to push units forward

Leerjawise wrote:
Regardless, Killa Kans won't go to fast attack, they aren't exactly speedy.

Well, neither are Armoured Sentinels, but they qualify as 'Fast Attack' somehow.

It does seem pretty unlikely though. If anything, they seem more suited to a Troops choice than Fast Attack or Elite.

You used to be able to take Carnifex as Elite if points were low enough I believe.

If lootas are moved to heavy then it has 7 viable options. Something has to move. Following ia8 there is precedent for kanz in fa. If they moved dreads to elites or still poss as troops or more than 1 per slot that'd help as well. Wagons being dedicated transports for many options will further ease things. Hres hoping!

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Rubs wrote:
What they might do is, keep the current load out killa kans as heavy support, and the 2 shooting wpn variant, as fast attack. (My hope)

Wouldn't it make more sense the other way around? Close combat is more of a FA thing and shooting is more HS.

There are a lot of shooty FA things too. Namely vehicles. CC FA seems to be more Infantry models and the like.