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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/20 16:41:19
Subject: OK so what is it that everyone dislikes with this list?
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Sneaky Lictor
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I posted this some time ago:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/308162.page 100+ views and only bigmeklover replied
Then I posted this:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/314669.page which had a decent response but only three post with advice
Finally I posted this:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/317871.page 30-40 views no response
These are essentially the same list at 2000 points and at 1500 and I received very little feedback for them.. Is it because it's the best list known to Gork and Mork and people are too embarrassed to write on the same page or is it a list so boring that nobody can be bothered with?
I'd really appreciated some help as I am struggling mainly with my fast attack slots (both in this list and my kan wall).
TY
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FaarisShazad wrote:The guy with the spiky dildo for a picture had a good point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/20 16:55:26
Subject: OK so what is it that everyone dislikes with this list?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Ok, ill bite.
Boss - needs a bosspole.
Mek - good too.
Burnas - Why only 12? and i assume they have a wagon right?
Megaz - why only 3 and a kombi-rokkit? its too small to make a dent and the rokkit wont hit. (stick with skorchas on em)
Boyz - You lack alot of numbers here, something orks rely on heavily.
Wagonz - I'd throw another big shoota on them, that 5 points means it can be saved from a glance kill.
Now, the list is somewhat light on anti-tank, so thats a pretty big problem.
Its also low on numbers, yet again, another big problem.
You also might want to structure lists more on here, that way people know what unit has what transport etc.
Spare points - If you want a megaboss, thats fine, but give him a bosspole.
I assume he will go with the meganobz, in which case, they will run away after the 1st wound or so.
Koptas - they arent really much good unless you plan on an alpha strike.
In which case, you hope it earns its points or does something nice, if not, thats a lost KP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/21 05:55:24
Subject: OK so what is it that everyone dislikes with this list?
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Is the MegaBoss riding with the Burnas or with the MegaNobz? If he is with the Burnas give him a BP for sure.
What is the plan for the Meganobz? 3 makes them such a small squad, I'm not sure how effective they will be. I know the Kombi-rokkit is to keep them all different so keep it.
With the spare points, I'd look at adding a squad of 5 lootas to sit back in cover and fire at transports. You don't have a lot of anti-tank but that is something Orks always struggle with and I don't think adding one kopter will make much of a difference, 3 buggies would help but really your best chance of popping heavy armor is to get it in hand to hand with your PK's. So a small squad of lootas seems like the best bet imo
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/21 13:39:49
Subject: Re:OK so what is it that everyone dislikes with this list?
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Sneaky Lictor
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The list in question... HQ: Warboss Mega armor, cybork, squig, BP 125 Big Mek KFF 85 ELITES 12x Burnas 180 TROOPS 3x Meganobz kombi-scorcha, kombi-rocket 130 Battlewagon dedicated transport 140 19x Boys Nob, PK, BP 154 12x Boys Nob, PK, BP 112 Trukk dedicated transport 12x Boys Nob, PK, BP 112 Trukk dedicated transport HEAVY SUPPORT Battlewagon 135 (no grott rigers) Battlewagon 140 Trukks have Reinforced rams and boarding planks Battlewagons have deffrollas, big shoota, boarding planks, armor plates and grott rigers. The above leaves me with 97 points. If I shave some points (say the squig from the boss) I could get 3 rocket buggies or a buzzsaw deffkopta and a meganob or something else?? Thanks for the effort! Boss had a pole already... It's written in the list and calculated in the points..  Burnas are at 12 because I dont have spare points. I am low on AV and adding more burnas doesn't help. Yes they are in a wagon.. Megaz have a kombi rockit for diversity and wound allocation. I would also prefer them to scorchas as if you flame a squad and he remove the foremost models there is a chance with SnP that they wont reach. As for a dent you may be right.. I 'll play them a bit and if they dont work swap them for sluggas Boyz should be Ok. There are 43 boys and 3 scoring meganobs and it's 1500 points. In my Kan wall where they are footslogging and exposed I run 50-60. I may add some grots for objective sitting.. Wagons, I can't spare the points unfortunately. I would have to suffer 2 destroyed results without repairing (BM) on a wagon before the next one would be an glance kill I am thinking about running the boss on his own with a bike instead of megaarmor. I could hide him behind the Wagons and once send him after a vehicle on turn 2.. Apart from that, I still dont know what to add to the list...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/09/21 13:41:02
FaarisShazad wrote:The guy with the spiky dildo for a picture had a good point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/21 14:05:43
Subject: OK so what is it that everyone dislikes with this list?
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
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Boys boys boys. i ran 100 in 1500 with my nob bikers and warboss bike, with lootas.. extremly hard to kill in so few turns  i suggest getting sum lootas in there
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I wonder if there is another word for "thesaurus"
2000 points
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- daemons 2000 points
In the making
Warriors of chaos (in the making)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/21 14:47:01
Subject: OK so what is it that everyone dislikes with this list?
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Sneaky Lictor
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With the Nob bikers you had a line of bikers at the front giving those 100 orks cover saves...
I am running a mechanized list.
What would you remove to add more boys?
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FaarisShazad wrote:The guy with the spiky dildo for a picture had a good point.
Ork Management Program
I take care of problems that need to be solved with violence |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/21 15:06:08
Subject: OK so what is it that everyone dislikes with this list?
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
leeds
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i would remove a battlewagon for 140 points. that will give you another bit of flexibility, take a few lootas, and buff that walking boyz squad to 25-30
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I wonder if there is another word for "thesaurus"
2000 points
- 2000 points
- daemons 2000 points
In the making
Warriors of chaos (in the making)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/21 16:29:15
Subject: OK so what is it that everyone dislikes with this list?
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Tower of Power
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It's because your list is so boring people cannot be arsed
Right, then..
HQs fine, Mek coudl do with cybork body maybe burna.
Kommandos suck - ditch them. What they meant to be doing?
Trukks are naff :( Shouldn't invest so much points into them. Worst transport in the game.
Meganobz aren't that mega, no invulnerable saves :(
Two Battlewagons (if reading your list right) means target priority, blow up Meganobz and they're walking - snipe them off with lascannons.
Could be better. Trukks are not the way to go, though could take en'masse and see how it goes, but Orks works in numbers and Trukks don't carry lots of Orks.
Oh, litlte ranged anti tank. Get Lootas because those Deffkopters and Trukks once wrecked you'll have nothing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/21 17:21:46
Subject: OK so what is it that everyone dislikes with this list?
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Sneaky Kommando
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You really need more nobz in the mega nobz squad 3 just leaves me wishing for more (Kind of like really good pie... do you like pie). If you give the mega nobz some kombi flammers then you can toast the little squads as you drive by on the way to the really big fish.
I hope that helps
p.s. thanks for the plug on the top
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Diplomacy is the act of saying good doggie until you can find a big enough gun!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/22 09:43:24
Subject: OK so what is it that everyone dislikes with this list?
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Sneaky Lictor
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Oh good!! OK so at 2000 points its 3 BW 3 Trukks BTW 1BW with MANZ 1BW with BM and 19Boyz 1BW with Ghaz and 15Burnas After suggestions on this thread I will definetly put the MANZ in a Trukk and upgrade the boys to fill the Battlewagon. That should give me 8 additional boys and also spread target priority around (the rukk with MANZ in becomes alot scarrier) 4BW 2 Trukks Drop Snikrot you say? I have him to reliably remove a back table threat or objective campers. If I drop him I could upgrade another Trukk to a Battlewagon and what I am trading is tactical options (offered by ambush) for reliability (BW with Deffrolla). Doesn't anyone put him to good use?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/09/22 09:43:59
FaarisShazad wrote:The guy with the spiky dildo for a picture had a good point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/22 13:43:11
Subject: OK so what is it that everyone dislikes with this list?
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Tower of Power
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Don't put the Meganobz in a Trukk!!!! Pop it which is easy, and they have SnP!! Bad idea!
How is 5 Kommandos going to threaten anything? That's my point, they have nothing, just Orks which outflank. Not cool. Drop the Kommandos get Lootas (if you haven't already) for ranged fire power.
Btw, you want Trukk spam doing something like the below. Here's a link to the full post too: http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2010/08/tactica-ork-boy.html
Orks “Trukk Wave” – unlimited points
HQ
Big Mek – kustom force field
Big Mek – kustom force field
Troops
11 x Boyz w/ Trukk – Nob w/ powerklaw & bosspole – Trukk w/ boarding plank
11 x Boyz w/ Trukk – Nob w/ powerklaw & bosspole – Trukk w/ boarding plank
12 x Boyz w/ Trukk – Nob w/ powerklaw & bosspole – Trukk w/ boarding plank
12 x Boyz w/ Trukk – Nob w/ powerklaw & bosspole – Trukk w/ boarding plank
12 x Boyz w/ Trukk – Nob w/ powerklaw & bosspole – Trukk w/ boarding plank
12 x Boyz w/ Trukk – Nob w/ powerklaw & bosspole – Trukk w/ boarding plank
If you want elites in Trukks go basic Nobz, don't waste points on them making them expensive. Just go the more the merrier route - definately no Meganobz in Trukks!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/23 17:21:07
Subject: OK so what is it that everyone dislikes with this list?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Need RPJ on those trucks
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Three men can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.
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