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**Frazzled**

WHYYYYYY!!!!!

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/10/27/christopher-nolan-reveals-title-of-third-batman-film-and-that-it-wont-be-the-riddler/?_r=true

Christopher Nolan’s third Batman film will be called “The Dark Knight Rises” and though the Gotham City auteur isn’t ready to reveal the villain of his 2012 film, he did eliminate one of the big contenders: “It won’t be the Riddler,” Nolan said in an exclusive interview with Hero Complex.

Riddler rumors were off target. (DC Comics)
Nolan was most eager to talk about the fact that Warner Bros. had agreed with his argument that the film should resist the current 3-D craze and instead use high-definition approaches and IMAX cameras to strike out on a different cinematic path than the stereoscopic technology that, for better or worse, has become the dominant conversation in the blockbuster sector.

Check back here later in the morning for a more in-depth look at that decision and the Nolan ambitions and reasons behind it.

As for the title, it shows the writer-director’s intention to keep his Bruce Wayne trilogy tightly stitched together. “We’ll use many of the same characters as we have all along, and we’ll be introducing some new ones,” Nolan said cryptically. I had an odd thought: What if Nolan somehow brings back Harvey Dent? The only reason I even mention it is because, back during post-production on the second film, Nolan told me that the title “The Dark Knight” was just as much about Dent and his fall from the status of shining-knight civic crusader. Dent was plainly dead at the end of the last film, though, and Nolan has been intent on keeping his Gotham City film firmly rooted in a gritty gangland realism– this isn’t a franchise that has veered off into the supernatural or even much super-science.

Nolan plays things close to the vest — he’s one of the few filmmakers of his generation who actually does wear a vest — and he chuckled when I tried to get a few more details out of him. “Oh, you know me, I don’t talk.” He began our conversation by comparing it with a visit to the dentist’s office. Well, if so, he’s a patient who never opens wide. I asked if he could imagine a time when Warner Bros. would let a filmmaker shoot a Batman script where the villain isn’t one of the signature creations from the comic books. “Ah, Geoff Boucher, master of the leading question,” he said with a chuckle.

That’s when he did agree, however, to eliminate a villain candidate, namely Edward Nigma, the green-suited Riddler, who many people (myself included) assumed was the next natural choice. That character could be taken in a lot of directions — think of Kevin Spacey’s character in “Seven” as a compass point for one of those dark paths — but Nolan and his team are going a different way. As with “Dark Knight,” the new film has a script written by Nolan and his brother, Jonah, and it’s based on a story by the director and David Goyer. Earlier, I got Nolan to take Mr. Freeze off the list and, yes, this is like pulling teeth but don’t think for a minute that I mind. Nolan makes sublime films, and any secrets he wants to keep in place are done so to protect the final product. As for me, I’m hoping now for Hugo Strange who, come to think of it, looks a bit like a dentist…

– Geoff Boucher

**Tyyr**

I just have a hard time imagining the Riddler in Nolan's Batman so him being out is not a disappointment. So happy that it won't be in 3D.

**LordofHats**

Not Riddler, not Freeze, it better not be Joker cause no one can live up to Heath Ledgers performance in that role... Whose left? Penguin and Catwoman seem to tame a follow up to the Joker. Hugo too. I can't see how we can go from Joker's insanity, to another typical everyday get rich villain. Scare Crow has been done, Ras is out (Talia might be an interesting introduction though...). Man bat and Clay Face are too sci-fi. Gah, trying to remember my Batman villains...

Meh. As long as they don't add any side kicks I think I'll live.

EDIT: I second the "3D" bit too. 3D is a waste of money.

**Sanctjud**

Bane...prob. not, it would most likely be something like The Dark Knight Falls.... or something like that instead of rise...
Poison Ivy: meh.

Quinn: kinda hard to lead into.
Ventriloquist: iffy, but gang like and an interesting moral battle can surface between the Ventriloquist and Scarface.

**Chowderhead**

Calender man?

**George Spiggott**

Taps man!

**FITZZ**

I'm actually a bit disappointed that Riddler won't be the villain of choice.
I truly thought that a Riddler played in a "Zodiac" (or Kevin Spacey in Seven) style would be quite interesting.
Add Cat woman or Talla for Femme Fatal/eye candy purposes,and I assumed the third instalments villains would be sorted.

Now I have to reassess my initial ideas.
Man Bat and Clay Face would,as has been said,be far to Sci-Fi,and Mr, Freeze is out (thank god).
I don't see Nolan trying to bring The Joker back (yet),and of course other villains (Calender Man,Crazy Quilts and the like) just won't cut it.

I'm guessing Penguin and Cat Woman.
Deformed crime boss and S&M burglar FTW.

**gorgon**

Signalman FTW.

While it might be too obvious -- and Nolan and Goyer have said they're aren't afraid to make a less obvious choice -- I think Catwoman almost has to be involved. It's an iconic character, and the series is now glaringly missing a female lead.

However, if Catwoman is portrayed in her usual amoral way, then the film still needs a proper villain. Or at least I think it does. And while I think the Penguin could fit the universe, I dunno that he has enough pizazz.

I know! Blockbuster! The white Hulk FTW!

**Tyyr**

Hmm, I can see a Kevin Spacey "Seven" kind of Riddler, but the Joker in the last film was dancing on the line of getting an R rating. To really do a creepy Riddler not sure how you'd avoid the R. Maybe you can. Maybe not cursing or showing some titties will let you get away with a lot, dunno.

**Frazzled**

Maybe its superman...

**FITZZ**

Frazzled wrote:Maybe its superman...

Ummm...no.

Maybe Ras will make a comeback via the Lazarus pool?
...Shame that the Russians aren't the "bad guys" anymore...KGBeast was a pretty cool villian.

**Frazzled**

FITZZ wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Maybe its superman...

Ummm...no.

Maybe Ras will make a comeback via the Lazarus pool?
...Shame that the Russians aren't the "bad guys" anymore...KGBeast was a pretty cool villian.

Well, Nolan is making a superman film. Just saying...

**BrookM**

As far as I know this is going to be grounded in reality as much as possible, hence no cross-overs with the other DC universe heroes and no magic or silly stuff like that.

Joker won't be returning because they believe nobody can top Heath's performance. Nolan himself said no Riddler, no mr. Freeze and no Penguin, so maybe..? Deadshot? Killer Croc? The Mad Hatter? Poison Ivy? The Ventriloquist? Catwoman has been hinted at though.

**Gorskar.da.Lost**

Agh. I am actually broken-hearted that the Riddler isn't the villain.
Goddamnit. Maybe it's Black Mask or Hush. I hope it isn't Hush.

**FITZZ**

The thing is there are a limited number of villains in Batman's rouge gallery that could make the transition into "Nolan's world".

Ras,Joker and Scarecrow have been done,Riddler is one of the few others who could work the gritty Nolan world,so it's a bit of a shame not to use him...of course there is always the next film.

As for remaining "believable" villains...it's very limited.

Penguin
Cat Woman
Talla
Deadshot (slightly altered)
Ventriloquist.
Black mask or Hush...maybe

**Laughing Man**

Kind of wish they'd throw Azrael in. I can't be the only one who liked AzBats...

**WarOne**

Laughing Man wrote:Kind of wish they'd throw Azrael in. I can't be the only one who liked AzBats...

I think you'd need another movie to add in Azrael, unless they made the last movie 4 hours long. Just too much to encompass with bat-lore and making a good movie.

**DarthDiggler**

The villan would have to fit the 'gangland' style of the first two films and be based in reality. The villan doesn't have to be someone famous from the comic books, it could be a minor villan who fits that stereotype.

**syanticraven**

So happy they are not going for 3d.

I hope it will be Harley Quinn her or The Penguin.

**Battle Brother Lucifer**

I hope it is a good character at least.
I really liked two face, I'm sad he already died though.
Also, I'm glad its not in 3d.

**Asherian Command**

It would be hilarious if they threw in the Punisher in XD

**KingCracker**

Chalk me in on the thank god no 3d. Sheesh that fad hasnt passed yet?

This could be a cool movie though. Im getting rather annoyed with Christian Bales voice as Batman but the movies are still pretty good so far. I think the riddler as a total nutjob with a splash of kevin spacey would just be awesome. Never thought of him that way.

The mad hatter would be dumb IMO, never cared for that guy what so ever. I just hope that if it is catwoman, the character will be cool, and the actress does it justice, because lately catwoman has been well...... you know

**Cryonicleech**

I could see the Penguin, but I was hoping for the Riddler. They'd have to work with the Penguin a bit, but it's definitely possible.

**KingCracker**

Cryonicleech wrote:I could see the Penguin, but I was hoping for the Riddler. They'd have to work with the Penguin a bit, but it's definitely possible.

Possible maybe, but hes another one of them that Im iffy on. Never been a big fan of his at all. It would have to be pretty dark

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And no danny davito (sp? on that?)

**efarrer**

KingCracker wrote:
Cryonicleech wrote:I could see the Penguin, but I was hoping for the Riddler. They'd have to work with the Penguin a bit, but it's definitely possible.

Possible maybe, but hes another one of them that Im iffy on. Never been a big fan of his at all. It would have to be pretty dark

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And no danny davito (sp? on that?)

Bane FTW

**KingCracker**

Bane was a badass thats for sure. And I did like his character as well. I think its a hulk smashing kindda thing lol

And they dont even have to make it scifi. He could just be a REALLY big and strong dude. I mean imagine a 7ish foot tall guy that is as strong as a world tough man competitor against normal folk. That would SUCK for us

**Gorskar.da.Lost**

KingCracker wrote:Bane was a badass thats for sure. And I did like his character as well. I think its a hulk smashing kindda thing lol

And they dont even have to make it scifi. He could just be a REALLY big and strong dude. I mean imagine a 7ish foot tall guy that is as strong as a world tough man competitor against normal folk. That would SUCK for us

Even then, Bane isn't all about being big and strong. He's also a genius. The guy was the first to truly beat Batman because he figured out that, individually, the rogues were no problem for Batman to beat, so he released them all at the same time. The guy knows how to mentally play with people, is all I'm saying. So yeah, Bane would be awesome.

**SlaveToDorkness**

Perhaps Nolan is pulling a GW "Everything you have been told is a LIE!" and it IS the Riddler?

Looking forward to another ride on the good Bat-series.

**Albatross**

THIS JUST IN:

**reds8n**

I think Bane could well work, especially if they emphasis the drugs aspect.

Or..of course... if we want to see Batman lose then there can be only one choice

A character that screams..nay...demands a Nolanesque rebbot.