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**reds8n**

Hi there,
In this Newsletter we have the first addition to our Eldar range of resin kits and upgrade sets available to pre-order, news of some more detailed Etched Brass and Transfer sheets that are also up for pre-order, an update on our Christmas shipping deadlines, and details of the Wishlist function on the Forge World website.

We’ve also got a reminder about the very last show that we’ll be attending this year – the IPMS Scale ModelWorld event which takes place on the 13th and 14th of November.

Thanks,
Ead Brown

Eldar Hornet Available to Pre-Order Now
The Eldar Hornet, designed by Daren Parrwood, is a brand-new addition to the Eldar range. One of several new Eldar units that will feature in the forthcoming Imperial Armour Volume 11, this complete resin kit may be armed with a full range of Eldar weaponry and is supplied with two resin Pulse Lasers, and a plastic Eldar heavy weapon sprue, to allow you to refine its potent weaponry to a specific battlefield role.

The Hornet is a light tank employed by Eldar armoured forces in a fast reconnaissance and raiding role. Piloted by a single crewman, it can be found in the forefront of Eldar aspect warrior assault waves, speeding ahead of heavier Falcons and Wave Serpents and often operating alongside other high-speed attack craft such as jetbikes and Vypers.

The Eldar Hornet is available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing the 29th of November. Imperial Armour writer Warwick Kinrade has put together a set of experimental rules for the Hornet which can be downloaded for free here.

Raptors Transfer Sheet
Masters of stealth and ambush, the Raptors play a major role in the Badab War and this new A4 transfer sheet, designed by Paul Rudge, is packed with over 150 Chapter symbols, squad markings and vehicle identifiers.
These decals, along with our existing Raptors Terminator Shoulder Pads, Rhino Doors and Land Raider Door sets, allow Raptors players to add unique character and detail to their armies.

This fantastic new decal sheet is available to pre-order now and will be despatched in the week commencing the 29th of November

Etched Brass Sheets:
The latest additions to our range of detailed Etched Brass symbols are these fantastic sets of Iron Hands and Imperial/Crimson Fists icons and Ork Glyphs from the talented hands of Graphic Artist Kenton Mills.

The Iron Hands and Imperial/Crimson Fists frames are packed with intricate symbols, Chapter and Company markings, scrollwork and Imperial Aquilae that can be used to decorate your Space Marine vehicles and infantry, as you can see in the images on the Forge World website

The Ork Glyphs frame provides a huge range of Ork pictograms with which to embellish the vehicles, armour and banners of your Clans to suitably insult your foes. The Ork sheet also contains a chequy pattern on the frame itself that you can trim into smaller sections and add to almost any model in the Ork range.

Each of these Etched Brass sheets is available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing the 29th of November.

Forge World Events News
IPMS Scale Model World Reservations Now Being Taken
Forge World will be attending the IPMS Scale Model World show at the International Centre in Telford on November 13th and 14th and once again, we’ll have a sales stand packed with a wide range of resin models, weathering powders and Imperial Armour publications. All of this will be available to purchase at the show and anything we run out of can be ordered on the day with the added bonus of completely free shipping!

If you have a specific shopping list, the best way to guarantee that we’ll have exactly what you want is to place a reservation order beforehand.

To place a reservation, just send an e-mail titled ‘IPMS Reservation’ to ForgeworldReservations@games-workshop.co.uk including your name and a list of the items you’d like us to provide, you can also telephone us on 0115 916 8177. In either case, we will provide you with an order number and total cost slightly before the event. We’ll also inform you of anything that we can’t guarantee to reserve for you.

Forge World Christmas Shipping Deadlines
Our last guaranteed shipping date for Standard Delivery outside the UK will be December 6th.
Our last guaranteed shipping date for Express Delivery outside the UK will be December 13th.
Our last guaranteed shipping date for all orders within the UK will be December 20th.

As always, it’s best to order as early as possible to ensure delivery, but if you have any questions or concerns about any aspect of your Forge World Christmas Shopping, please contact us either by e-mail at forgeworldorderenquiries@games-workshop.co.uk or telephone on 0115 916 8177 within the UK, 011 44 115 916 8177 from the US and Canada or 00 44 115 916 8177 from much of Europe.

Forge World Wishlists Now Available Online
On the subject of Christmas shopping, there’s nothing worse than secretly hoping for a Reaver Titan, finding a massive parcel under your tree, eagerly ripping it open and finding a lovely ‘novelty’ jumper and a pair of socks…

It doesn't get much worse than that, but thankfully it couldn't be easier to make sure that it doesn't happen to you. If you’ve created an account on www.forgeworld.co.uk then you have the ability to create a Wishlist. Just login to Your Account and you’ll see an option to View Wishlists – simply browse through our online store and click the ‘add to wishlist’ button on each item’s page. Once you’ve found all the gifts you’re after, just e-mail it to all of your friends and family and wait for Christmas morning.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/ELDAR-HORNET.html

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/h/hornetexp.pdf

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/RAPTORS-TRANSFER-SHEET.html

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/ETCHED-BRASS-IRON-HANDS-SYMBOLS.html

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/ETCHED-BRASS-IMPERIAL-FISTS-CRIMSON-FISTS.html

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/ETCHED-BRASS-SMALL-ORK-GLYPHS.html

**Kirbinator**

I rather like the Eldar Hornet's proposed rules, especially when compared to War Walkers. 60 points for dual scatter laser war walker, 75 for the Hornet with same weapons. You trade Scout for a fast skimmer, AV11, Closed-Top and Star Engines for 25 points more? Shows up in the Fast Attack slot so it doesn't use up a Fire Prism selection? Sounds good to me!

**Icon720**

Trade Scout? Looks like it has the scout rule. A good flat out in the scout phase and shooting nothing but rear armour on turn 1( if you have first turn). I don't get the star engines thing. Not a troop transport so can't claim objectives only use those engines to get across the board in a hurry to contest. I do like the armour 11. I would definitely switch out my vypers for these though still keep them cheap with SCs.

**Death By Monkeys**

Not to mention squadron rules - very nice!

**Grarg**

That Hornet looks nice! The rules are surprisingly decent.

I was hoping for Raven Guard Terminator shoulder pads, oh well!!

**Melissia**

Oh cool, the Ork brass glyphs sound like a winner.

**Alpharius**

Grarg wrote:

I was hoping for Raven Guard Terminator shoulder pads, oh well!!

I'm still hoping for those too - don't give up!

**Kanluwen**

Raven Guard Terminator pads are gonna be a looooooooong way off, if they ever materialize(no pun intended).

Simple fact: Terminators? They're not something you'd really consider a "signature" unit of the Raven Guard. When one thinks RG, they think Scouts, Tacticals, Drop Pods, etc.

**DPBellathrom**

the hornet looks quite swish

if it cost a little less I might be interested

as for the ork glyphs, their nice but nothing that you cant mimic with some plasticard :(

**Master Melta**

Personally I am psyched about the Iron Hands Brass. I have just started the chapter, at what seems like a pretty killer time. I just hope they don't roll out FW iron hands pads and bits after completion.

I need to research what to do with Brass. Anyone know any good treahs on how to use it?

**Reecius**

That hornet is the business! That thing actually has decent looking rules. FW usually makes grossly over or under powered units, this is nice. Plus the model is ace!

**Prophecy07**

Really? That cost and still BS3...once you get the weapons on there it's not any cheaper than a Prism or Falcon...

The Eldar are ancient and masters of every path. Why can some upstart roided up human shoot more accurately than them?

**UsdiThunder**

I hope the Hornet makes it to the next codex. It looks nice and has a lot of potential in the Fast attack slot.

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Prophecy07 wrote:Really? ...The Eldar are ancient and masters of every path. Why can some upstart roided up human shoot more accurately than them?

Then you'd make all the Space Marine Players cry if the ancient eldar could shoot better than they do...

**Prophecy07**

UsdiThunder wrote:I hope the Hornet makes it to the next codex. It looks nice and has a lot of potential in the Fast attack slot.

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Prophecy07 wrote:Really? ...The Eldar are ancient and masters of every path. Why can some upstart roided up human shoot more accurately than them?

Then you'd make all the Space Marine Players cry if the ancient eldar could shoot better than they do...

But...they're....SUPPOSED TO!

They have technology so advanced that the Imperium can only consider magic and witchcraft. Is inventing an auto-tracker really beyond their capabilities? The Tau can do it and they're the galactic equivalent of a spunky teenager.

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Plus, the things they're shooting at? In the case of the Imperium, functionally identical to a barn door. Size and shape.

**Absolutionis**

The Eldar Hornet looks... for lack of a better word... "Adorable". It's a mini Falcon!

Prophecy07 wrote:The Eldar are ancient and masters of every path. Why can some upstart roided up human shoot more accurately than them?

Perhaps because they want to prepare us for the Star Eagles Aspect Warriors to pilot vehicles in the next Eldar Codex in 2020 (After Codex: Blue Roided Humans II).

Either way, that's always been a complaint of Eldar Players. Essentially the reasoning is that Eldar Guardians pilot vehicles at their BS3. Their fancy targeting systems are reserved for Fire Prisms' BS4.

**Alpharius**

Kanluwen wrote:Raven Guard Terminator pads are gonna be a looooooooong way off, if they ever materialize(no pun intended).

Simple fact: Terminators? They're not something you'd really consider a "signature" unit of the Raven Guard. When one thinks RG, they think Scouts, Tacticals, Drop Pods, etc.

Yes and no.

Temrinators make perfect sense for a First Founding Chapter that has its own Forge World.

**Grarg**

I'd agree that the "need" for Terminator pads isn't really that high priority for FW, but still after seeing what they did with the MVI Raven Guard armour (espcially the shoulder pads) it'd be nice to get some Terminator "love".

I think in a perfect world they'd do a Raven Guard kit similar to the Space Wolf Terminator Armour kit, IE: body + pads......

Anyways... this conversation is for another thread, go go Raptors

**Alpharius**

Huh?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-Accessories/SPACE-WOLVES-TERMINATOR-CONVERSION-SET.html

The world is perfect!

**Kanluwen**

Alpharius wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:Raven Guard Terminator pads are gonna be a looooooooong way off, if they ever materialize(no pun intended).

Simple fact: Terminators? They're not something you'd really consider a "signature" unit of the Raven Guard. When one thinks RG, they think Scouts, Tacticals, Drop Pods, etc.

Yes and no.

Temrinators make perfect sense for a First Founding Chapter that has its own Forge World.

People don't think of Raven Guard as a "First Founding Legion".

They think of them as "that ninja Chapter with the goofy bird names".

**Grarg**

Alpharius wrote:Huh?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-Accessories/SPACE-WOLVES-TERMINATOR-CONVERSION-SET.html

The world is perfect!

Oops.... i ment a Raven Guard Terminator kit like the Space Wolf one....

**Alpharius**

Well, whose fault is that?

Actually, the latest background for them even points out that because Deliverance, the moon of the Forge World Kiavahr, is the RG's homeworld, they are basically good to go and very well supplied...

**Kanluwen**

Alpharius wrote:Well, whose fault is that?

Actually, the latest background for them even points out that because Deliverance, the moon of the Forge World Kiavahr, is the RG's homeworld, they are basically good to go and very well supplied...

And that same latest background for them has them, even in the midst of a surgical attack and things snowballing like WHOA, the RG didn't deploy Terminators on Kastorel-Novem

**Necros**

This is the first time I don't like the looks of an eldar model. that hornet just doesn't look right. I think it's the big empty space between the back of the bottom armor and the rear tail piece.. it's like something is missing...

**Grarg**

Kanluwen wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Well, whose fault is that?

Actually, the latest background for them even points out that because Deliverance, the moon of the Forge World Kiavahr, is the RG's homeworld, they are basically good to go and very well supplied...

And that same latest background for them has them, even in the midst of a surgical attack and things snowballing like WHOA, the RG didn't deploy Terminators on Kastorel-Novem

Well... each company is supposedly highly autonomous and really don't like working with each other, which was the weird thing with Korvydae's forces....

**Alpharius**

Grarg wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Well, whose fault is that?

Actually, the latest background for them even points out that because Deliverance, the moon of the Forge World Kiavahr, is the RG's homeworld, they are basically good to go and very well supplied...

And that same latest background for them has them, even in the midst of a surgical attack and things snowballing like WHOA, the RG didn't deploy Terminators on Kastorel-Novem

Well... each company is supposedly highly autonomous and really don't like working with each other, which was the weird thing with Korvydae's forces....

Basically, that Kan's way of saying I'm right and he's not wrong.

So lovable!

**Kanluwen**

Grarg wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Well, whose fault is that?

Actually, the latest background for them even points out that because Deliverance, the moon of the Forge World Kiavahr, is the RG's homeworld, they are basically good to go and very well supplied...

And that same latest background for them has them, even in the midst of a surgical attack and things snowballing like WHOA, the RG didn't deploy Terminators on Kastorel-Novem

Well... each company is supposedly highly autonomous and really don't like working with each other, which was the weird thing with Korvydae's forces....

Uh, first off...
The 10th Company, being the Scout Company, is very likely an exception to the normal rule of "Independent Companies" and interaction with other companies in the Raven Guard. It makes more sense to dole out the Scouts piecemeal when they're needed rather than committing them all at once as a Company under Korvydae/Master of Recruits.
And it furthermore makes sense when persecuting a guerilla warfare operation to have someone who's renowned for that kind of warfare to be put in charge rather than someone else.

It's quite likely also that if the Raven Guard were to field Terminator equipped Battle-Brothers, they'd actually have the veteran members of the normal Companies suit up in Terminator Armor for the operations.

Alpharius wrote:
Basically, that Kan's way of saying I'm right and he's not wrong.

So lovable!

Sorry?

That was my way of saying "even if they are well-equipped, they didn't field them even when it hit the fan on Kastorel-Novem, instead relying upon Thunderhawks and rapid reinsertion/mobilization of Scout/Tactical Squads when a few well-placed Terminator teleport assaults would have broken the Ork's backs". Which kind of went along with my whole point of "People don't think of Terminators when they think Raven Guard", which is probably why we're not seeing Terminator pads for the Raven Guard.

**Absolutionis**

Necros wrote:This is the first time I don't like the looks of an eldar model. that hornet just doesn't look right. I think it's the big empty space between the back of the bottom armor and the rear tail piece.. it's like something is missing...

That's where it combines Voltron-style to the Phantom Titan.

**Kirbinator**

Absolutionis wrote:
Necros wrote:This is the first time I don't like the looks of an eldar model. that hornet just doesn't look right. I think it's the big empty space between the back of the bottom armor and the rear tail piece.. it's like something is missing...
That's where it combines Voltron-style to the Phantom Titan.

That would be awesome.

I agree, though. I don't like that it looks like they took the standard Eldar chassis and just hacked at it, rather than making a "new" skimmer. I particularly don't like the little stabilizer flaps on the rear end of the front arcs. They look like they're just begging to snap off when caught on something.

**Kurgash**

I do like the hornet, gives the image of a fast little bugger zipping up the enemy lines to get a good look and buzzing away at first contact. Agreed it looks like something is missing as there looks like gaps in the design. As Kirbinator said, yeah the flaps just don't do anything for it, would look better without them probably.

**H.B.M.C.**

Now if only they'd do a set of etched brass with none of those Iron Hands symbols, but more AdMech symbols!

And the Hornet is great. The rules are actually good, but then again the law of averages has to give FW one good ruleset every now and again.

Also, having 'Lexandro' as one of the names on the Imperial Fist etched brass is a nice touch.