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Through my own genius and creativity I have created an army that is clearly unstoppable. Putting 10 Tanks into a 2k List is Clearly Hard and only people of my Caliber and grasp of Warhammer 40k 5th Edition can make Lists like this. Not only is this List Incredibly Challenging to play, but is a marvel of my own Creativty, and does not reflect at all me using my checkbook to make Warhammer 40k Not Fun for others that dont have the same check book as me.

Have Fun Reading the List, and Yes I am this Creative and Smart to make a list like as truly revolutionary as this.


HQ- 100
Autarch
Mandiblasters
Power Weapon
Fusion Gun

Troops- 968

Warlock-Destructor
10 Storm Guardians- 2 Flamers
Wave Serpent - TL Scatter Lazerz.

Warlock-Destructor
10 Storm Guardians- 2 Flamers
Wave Serpent - TL Scatter Lazerz.

Warlock-Destructor
10 Storm Guardians- 2 Flamers
Wave Serpent - TL Scatter Lazerz.

Warlock-Destructor
10 Storm Guardians- 2 Flamers
Wave Serpent - TL Scatter Lazerz.

Elite- 585
5 Fire Dragons
Wave Serpent - TL Scatter Laser.

5 Fire Dragons
Wave Serpent - TL Scatter Laser.

5 Fire Dragons
Wave Serpent - TL Scatter Laser.

Heavy Support- 345
Fire Prism
Fire Prism
Fire Prism

Total- 1998 Points.



Basically If I dont go first, Im going to Reserve my entire Army. My Entire Army will then Come in Turn 2 Thanks to Captain Autarch. My 3 Squads of Fire Dragons will Destroy any Tank in the entire Game X3. My 4 Squads of Storm Guardians will Kill any Squad on any Objective in Cover with 3 Flamer Templaces. Then Of Corse Every Turn I will Roll my 28 Str 6 Shots killing whatever Tank I want or Infantry I want. Then of Course the 3 Fire Prisms will make short work of tanks or any infantry regardless of Toughness or Armor.

If you ever see this list or me, I would probably just move your army off the back of the Board and keep your models to fight another day, because this list will not loose, and yes, putting thought into a list like this is hard and clearly shows my superior thinking and understanding of 5th edition warhammer 40k.

I would actually love to see this played out. I think it would fair well against Guard, BA, possible Wolves. might be rough vs vanilla tho. should eat DE alive, as well as Nids, and any food slogging army.

this is assuming you go first, or hold in reserve of course.

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:I would actually love to see this played out. I think it would fair well against Guard, BA, possible Wolves. might be rough vs vanilla tho. should eat DE alive, as well as Nids, and any food slogging army.

this is assuming you go first, or hold in reserve of course.

O, Its been played out in my mind, where its unstoppable.

It's pretty much a cookie cutter mechdar list. I get the point you are trying to make considering this thread quite literally screams sarcasm in a thousand lamenting voices, but it's clearly not invincible. There are many many lists out there that would have a field day here. Necrons with 3x Monoliths and a pile of Destroyers/Warriors, Space Wolves ML Spam, Imperial Guard with 3x Hydra Flak Batteries and a bunch of Vendettas and Melta Vets, or just about anything that could stun your vehicles since you completely lack Spirit Stones across the board.

Have fun dealing with 36 TL Autocannon shots per turn that ignore cover and a pile of Lascannons, or Manticores that roll S10 and ordnance armor pen.

Tempest's Wrath would also give you problems with all of those flat-out moves. Roll a 1 on your movement within 24" of a Rune Priest and your vehicle crashes and everyone inside dies horribly.

Aldarionn wrote:It's pretty much a cookie cutter mechdar list. I get the point you are trying to make considering this thread quite literally screams sarcasm in a thousand lamenting voices, but it's clearly not invincible. There are many many lists out there that would have a field day here. Necrons with 3x Monoliths and a pile of Destroyers/Warriors, Space Wolves ML Spam, Imperial Guard with 3x Hydra Flak Batteries and a bunch of Vendettas and Melta Vets, or just about anything that could stun your vehicles since you completely lack Spirit Stones across the board.

Have fun dealing with 36 TL Autocannon shots per turn that ignore cover and a pile of Lascannons, or Manticores that roll S10 and ordnance armor pen.

Tempest's Wrath would also give you problems with all of those flat-out moves. Roll a 1 on your movement within 24" of a Rune Priest and your vehicle crashes and everyone inside dies horribly.

By All means come up with a list that counters 36 TL Autocannon shots per turn that ignore cover and a pile of Lascannons, or Manticores that roll S10 and ordnance armor pen.

5 words. Blood Angels Land Raider Spam

You are a 40k god. I worship you for this list.

I haven't lost a game against Eldar w/SW with my Lord/ThunderCav spam w/Long Fangs.

Cjc1223 wrote:5 words. Blood Angels Land Raider Spam

Fire Dragons - Strength 8 Melta Weapons. You tried, feel free to try again.


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mrblacksunshine_1978 wrote:I haven't lost a game against Eldar w/SW with my Lord/ThunderCav spam w/Long Fangs.

Well I havent Lost a game, Ever.

Looks okay.

Is there a particular purpose to posting it? Do you want some kind of feedback?

Smitty0305 wrote:

Cjc1223 wrote:5 words. Blood Angels Land Raider Spam

Fire Dragons - Strength 8 Melta Weapons. You tried, feel free to try again.


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mrblacksunshine_1978 wrote:I haven't lost a game against Eldar w/SW with my Lord/ThunderCav spam w/Long Fangs.

Well I havent Lost a game, Ever.

can you say 2/3 save with three wounds apiece 3/3 two apiece and a true toughness of five

mrblacksunshine_1978 wrote:

Smitty0305 wrote:

Cjc1223 wrote:5 words. Blood Angels Land Raider Spam

Fire Dragons - Strength 8 Melta Weapons. You tried, feel free to try again.


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mrblacksunshine_1978 wrote:I haven't lost a game against Eldar w/SW with my Lord/ThunderCav spam w/Long Fangs.

Well I havent Lost a game, Ever.

can you say 2/3 save with three wounds apiece 3/3 two apiece and a true toughness of five

72 str 6 shots per turn. But yea ur footsloggers seem cute.

A guard army can take out all transport on turn 1 or 2 and as you walk across the field pick you off slowly

cgage00 wrote:A guard army can take out all transport on turn 1 or 2 and as you walk across the field pick you off slowly

7 transports with12 armor and more than half will ve behind or giving cover. I clearly said i would be reserving the entire list.

So you think you can destroy 7 wave serpents in a turn? Well lets look at the math on what is required to crack one wave serpent.

Lets talk about ladcannon percents for fun because the percent for autocannons is so low its a joke.

You have a. 50 chance to hit.
You havr a .50 chance to glace and a. .33 chance to penetrate.
I then have a. 50 chance to roll my cover save that i will have.
You then have a. .33 chance to destroy the transport.

50 shots.
25 will hit.
14 will. Do sonething.
7 will hit cover 7 will hit.
2.2 shots will destroy the transport.
2.2/50 is what 4.8 percent chance to destroy a transport.

.04X equals 7.

Based on common math you need 175 lascannon shots to destroy my transports in one turn. Your assuming that I wont destroy atleast half of ur lascannons mt first turn of shooting.

Congrats on proving that you cant do simple math.

lol, have you ever seen a sisters of battle army? Everything is meched up, so your forces do nothing until you break open the metal bawkses. Easy, you think? Just wait until you face down 3D6 S8 AP1 shots per turn, and a horde of tanks that can scoot 12" and fire multimeltas.

Then, once the vehicular phase is over, they flame you, and your storm guardians die, or they use faith points to make their weapons AP3 and the dragons die, or use faith points to make their S high enough to take down war walkers or make their armor save invulnerable, or, or, or.

A good SoB player would eat this for breakfast. Honestly, so would a power blob guard list as your non-fearless do-nothing troops choices get swarmed by power weapons.

A good eldar list? Yes. An unbeatable one? Hardly.

Bear in mind that infantry lascannons can get an order to either re-roll misses or force you to re-roll successful cover saves. That alters the math significantly.

While you're doing math, you might want to note that a single Autarch means 2/3 of your army comes in on turn 2 when you Reserve, not all of it. This helps your opponent a bit.

Smitty0305 wrote:

cgage00 wrote:A guard army can take out all transport on turn 1 or 2 and as you walk across the field pick you off slowly

7 transports with12 armor and more than half will ve behind or giving cover. I clearly said i would be reserving the entire list.

So you think you can destroy 7 wave serpents in a turn? Well lets look at the math on what is required to crack one wave serpent.

Lets talk about ladcannon percents for fun because the percent for autocannons is so low its a joke.

You have a. 50 chance to hit.
You havr a .50 chance to glace and a. .33 chance to penetrate.
I then have a. 50 chance to roll my cover save that i will have.
You then have a. .33 chance to destroy the transport.

50 shots.
25 will hit.
14 will. Do sonething.
7 will hit cover 7 will hit.
2.2 shots will destroy the transport.
2.2/50 is what 4.8 percent chance to destroy a transport.

.04X equals 7.

Based on common math you need 175 lascannon shots to destroy my transports in one turn. Your assuming that I wont destroy atleast half of ur lascannons mt first turn of shooting.

Congrats on proving that you cant do simple math.

well based on your math(i suck at math btw) you really only covered one entire situation and that is based on the fact that you plan on moving flat out for the cover or duck behind cover...but there will be times where you want to unload and then chances can be good that the serpent will get destroyed. now i can see you doing that most of the time with your guardians, but your dragons are a different story

also id suggest you play against the chicago ard boyz champ as his list maxed out at 1900. but i honestly dont have a problem with this list. yes it has some good elements but relies to much on keeping mobile which can easily be dealt with...i see a seer council on bikes doing alot, thunder ham termies, nobz...just pretty much any hard hitting combat unit. and yes i know they would need a 6 to hit but with 15+ attacks comming at you its kinda easy to take down transports and deal with the squishy insides

Your Wave Serpents will do what again? All you need to do is immobilize/destroy the 3 Waveserpents that carry your firedragons and your S6 does basically nothing against anything on the field AV 12 or up. My manticore and 4-hydra list would beat the crap out of you. Oh, you are in reserve? I guess I'll just wait until you bring in your Firedragon Waveserpents. Either you sit in cover and get shot by Strength 10 ordnance which denies your cover, or you go flat out and get shot by hydras which, again, ignores cover. Honestly, if your firedragons go, you have ZERO ability to kill anything heavy, which will suck. Nobody cares about your waveserpents if all they can do is ram landraiders... Anyway, don't get me wrong, it's a really good list (albeit it seems a little boring...), but it's not unbeatable!

This is hilarious whoop up on your local competition

Ailaros wrote:lol, have you ever seen a sisters of battle army? Everything is meched up, so your forces do nothing until you break open the metal bawkses. Easy, you think? Just wait until you face down 3D6 S8 AP1 shots per turn, and a horde of tanks that can scoot 12" and fire multimeltas.

Then, once the vehicular phase is over, they flame you, and your storm guardians die, or they use faith points to make their weapons AP3 and the dragons die, or use faith points to make their S high enough to take down war walkers or make their armor save invulnerable, or, or, or.

A good SoB player would eat this for breakfast. Honestly, so would a power blob guard list as your non-fearless do-nothing troops choices get swarmed by power weapons.

A good eldar list? Yes. An unbeatable one? Hardly.

You made me laugh when you assumed there were good sob players.

18 str 8 shots still doesnt mean anything.

Wave serpents shields negate melta weapons.

Nice try tho the list is still unbeatable.


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Mannahnin wrote:Bear in mind that infantry lascannons can get an order to either re-roll misses or force you to re-roll successful cover saves. That alters the math significantly.

While you're doing math, you might want to note that a single Autarch means 2/3 of your army comes in on turn 2 when you Reserve, not all of it. This helps your opponent a bit.

8 percent is still 140 shots assuming the order goes off.


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augfubuoy wrote:Your Wave Serpents will do what again? All you need to do is immobilize/destroy the 3 Waveserpents that carry your firedragons and your S6 does basically nothing against anything on the field AV 12 or up. My manticore and 4-hydra list would beat the crap out of you. Oh, you are in reserve? I guess I'll just wait until you bring in your Firedragon Waveserpents. Either you sit in cover and get shot by Strength 10 ordnance which denies your cover, or you go flat out and get shot by hydras which, again, ignores cover. Honestly, if your firedragons go, you have ZERO ability to kill anything heavy, which will suck. Nobody cares about your waveserpents if all they can do is ram landraiders... Anyway, don't get me wrong, it's a really good list (albeit it seems a little boring...), but it's not unbeatable!

You have rear armor that str6 will destroy.
My firegradons will make it and they will destroy ur heavy mech.

List is still unbeatable.

Look, it's not unbeatable. I mean, to continue with the firedragon example because I've already talked about it, since you need your guys in close to do damage, all that needs to happen is that your 3 waveserpents are stunned, immobilized, or worse. After that, since you can't deal with heavy armor, your list gets destroyed. If you're trying to be sarcastic, then stop debating and just come out and say that this was all a joke, but if you're serious, put up some battle reports with this list against very good lists (since this is an unbeatable list that shouldn't be a problem, right?) and we'll see how good it is in-game instead of just mathhammering everything. I mean, I LOVE me some mathhammer, but that usually only separates decent from horrible lists. If the list is REALLY good, you have (or, in my opinion, SHOULD) try it out for a couple of games.

I dunno if your serious or just kidding... either way, this thread gives me a laugh

Smitty0305 wrote:18 str 8 shots still doesnt mean anything.

Wave serpents shields negate melta weapons.

exorcists aren't melta weapons. You're talking at D6 BS4 S8 AP1 shots on a vehicle which has a front armor of AV13, which nothing but your dragons can even scratch.

exorcists > wave serpents. So much so, that I'd go so far as to say they were DESIGNED to kill wave serpents.

And, as mentioned, the anti-tank loadout is pathetic. Your armored foe needs to take down just a couple serpents to end your ability to hurt AV13+, and your infantry is still small squads of Sv5+ dudes with no source of stubborn. Any time anything is forced out of a transport, they die. Given that your army is woefully inadequate against AV 13/14 at this points level, and that there is a lot of stuff that is AV13/14 that can take down serpents and feast on the goo inside, this list has at least one serious liability. Add in the fact that there isn't a lot that will stop a mass horde with S8 weapons like a guard horde or a green tide loaded up with rokkits, and now you've got at least two serious liabilities.

Thus is definitely beatable.

this list would get raped by a tri-lith cron player. you would have no anti tank ability, and we would destroy all your gak turn 1 or 2. plus you sound like an arrogant douche bag throughout this entire thread so congrats on that [see forum posting rules]

Congrats on fielding Eldar without a Farseer!

This list is a serious hard counter to my Kan list - very nasty.

The list is unbeatable and thus far nothing has proved otherwise.

Vehicles have side and rear armors that I will be able to crack.

If a necron army brings 3 monoliths the phase out number will be so low that I could probably achiev it with 2 turns of shooting and 1 assult.


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kaiservonhugal wrote:Congrats on fielding Eldar without a Farseer!

This list is a serious hard counter to my Kan list - very nasty.

What would a farseer do? Doom isnt needed because everything wounds on 2s. Nice try tho.

And yea ur kan wall wouldnt stand a chance. The only thing there good at is cc which wouldnt happen. And of couse all ur orcs would die in a turn.

No list is unbeatable. And all you gotta do is load up on warriors and destroyers. add in a few necron lords with some immortals. your list is toast. at 2000 points, necrons are crazy hard to phase out

Necronicus wrote:No list is unbeatable. And all you gotta do is load up on warriors and destroyers. add in a few necron lords with some immortals. your list is toast. at 2000 points, necrons are crazy hard to phase out

this list is unbeatable especiallu against necrons who are un playable.

Didnt say you needed one - stop for a breath man - I know youre excited but really, my post was a compliment. Its rare to see an Eldar list without a Farseer.

Post some batreps with pics - Im sure theres lots of players that cant wait to play you in your area.

necrons beat eldar 9 times out of ten. period. you sound like every other eldar player ive ever met, cocky until their beloved list just get smashed by more competitive armies. Necrons could beat you with a 9 year old codex. That is sad