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I don't think horns would suit th face, probably add the princess style dreadlocks.

Yet more progress:

Okay the face/head is much further along now. I'm still resolving the features such as the eyes, nose, and mouth. At this point I'm switching using solely a generic skull for reference and I'm working toward a specific person's face as reference.







The size of the head looks to be correct now, as you can see I had to add material to fill out the back of the skull. Its a common error most people make when either drawing or sculpting the head.







In case anyone wondering the duct tape is holding the legs together while the putty sets.


More soon!

Dude awesome putty work!

The overall of this is creepy and to me thats awsome. I love the origonality of it all honestly. Truthfully the more I watch the more im just speachless of words. One big question though is where did you get all your stuff to make the resin molds, and on average starting that venture how much does it run?

Its sick and offensive. I like it! *thumbs up*

Creepy and beautiful, it's art!

I remember seeing this thread a while ago... never thought it would be this epic

Good to see the idea i gave ya comin to life man, sersi=pro modeler.

I ahve been looking at this thread for a while. I think it is incredible what Sersi is doing. I am hoping to do something similar myself, but until then, I worship this person. I cannot wait for everything to be done.

So I've been thinking...


So I was looking through my bits boxes today for some inspiration; and a piece of corrugated hose inspired this. Now the Idea here is in a manner similar to Alien Queen in Aliens, the daemon has a hose attached to her naughty bits that deposits her children/spawn behind the walker as it moves on blasting stuff.



My only fear is that the hose passing through her throne makes is look like a giant toilet! The hose would be attached to her lower body with metal hooks of course, to keep it real. The spawn would be a several of my converted grave ghouls....er...excuse me Painlings!

Too much?


A couple of other ideas:

1. How about making the fingers holding the belly longer and digging bloody rents into the flesh.
2. Someone suggested having engorged veins along the sides of the belly.


Thoughts?

Actually I go with both 1 and 2 make it look more pregnant.. <_<;;
Apparently the miracle of giving birth is a wondrous thing to behold.. Either kill that right then and there with this model or enforce it either way it's all good.

Yeah, definately add the last two things.

Maybe instead of having the mechanical ovipositer (egg laying thingy) come from the front and hang to one side or divide and hang over both sides. Or could reach over the shoulder and drop down? This is all coming from an amateur, but it does not look like a toilet by the way. The other two ideas are fantastic as well, the more disgusting the better. Also who cares if it does look like a toilet, though it would be nurgly to poop the painlings out, it could be a demonstration of feco-fetish (which is absolutely revolting in my opinion) which is definitely Slaanesh. But maybe you want to keep somewhat family friendly... wait what am I saying, Slaanesh is like a watchful parents nightmare. Go ahead traumatize your opponents.

I honestly feel the hose may be too much, Though definetly an interesting concept, I almost feel that it would be near impossible to not look at it as some sort of toilet, and in that sense feels very nurgly!! I also concour with the two ideas you gave about the digging fingers and veins, which would also push more focus to the belly cannon which is the focal point of the piece.

Think of it like this: " The Cadian gaurdsman had been holding the garrison now for 3 days, with no end to the battle in sight. That is practically normality on Cadia; being the first bastion outside the great eye has its downsides. But, at the dawn of the next day something hit us we had never seen before. A faint ethereal 'sigh' that could be heard by all proceeded what many of my fellow gaurdsman thought to be angels, angels coming to save us once and for all. But these were no angels... The deception had worked, half of the front line was whipped out by lightning fast talons before we even knew what was happening. Our commisar executed a fleeing coward nearby to rally us for a counter attack, but then, just as we had rallied and began our assault, a monstrous form flashed into view. Through the smoke all we could see was some sort of enemy walker, but what we heard... It sounded like a pregnant woman being ripped apart by her unborn, and enjoying it at the same time! Horrified by what we had heard, half the platoon was annihilated in an instant by what I can only describe as a contraction from the horrid mechanation, and then it came into view. My emporer, we can't fight this..." Last words written by the coward traitor Valerez before summary execution by his commanding commisar.

The fingers clawing into the skin sounds good. Clawing at oneself in pain and ecstasy is probable and fitting.

The veins? Eh, not so much. I'm not sure they would add anything to the model, just distract from the interesting parts. Going by your other figures, there will be more than enough detail as it is, a smooth expanse of belly flesh would compliment the more intricate sections.

Oh this thread... I love it! And I love your creativity adn skills Sersi.

Don't fear the vagina, revel in the act of creation. Have the motherfigure lying back in pleasure on a dias to give birth to her young ones right into the face of her enemies. Let her vulva tell them "Chaos is constantly reborn, behold my act of creation that is at the same time the source of your destruction".

In our western society there is very often a deep gulf between the two female archetypes "the mother" and "the whore". I think that this model has the potential to bridge that gap/break that (miss)conception, and by that cause huge amounts of discord on a very personal level among lots of gamers by forcing them to remember that they once had a vulva around their throats. All in all, a very slaneesh thing to do.

This new "tube" idea seems as though it might steal focus from the front of the creature to its back.

The idea of a daemon engine birthing daemons (as cool and twisted as it sounds) doesn't really fit the concept of Soul Grinder, it seems to me.

Since it's a Grinder, it seems to me the thing needs to convey the idea of a maw cannon -- something I thought your original design concept got across really effectively. (I'm thinking here of the drawing depitcting the creature cradling her belly; that belly protruding a stubby, mechanical-looking aperture that suggested either a cannon barrel or a door-lock or a weird portal of some kind.)

Just my two bitz. Whatever direction you decide to take, I know we're in good hands (and by that, I mean the hands of an utterly demented genius surgeon.)

My only fear is that the hose passing through her throne makes is look like a giant toilet!

Now that you've said that I can't help but see a toilet...

Well the consensus is that the toilet demon laying chair was too much and in the wrong direction. After reading all the reasons why I can only agree. So I'm moving away from the birthing chair idea and going with something more along the lines of Slaaneshi-stylized Buddha.

It seems that most everyone liked the hands digging into the belly and to some degree the incorporation of pulsing veins on the belly. To a certain extent I think that and the fact that "OMG its a pregnant daemon!" factor might be enough to carry the model. I'm also thinking about returning her to the original reclining position, as well.



As a side note I found this on Deviantart today:



Damn...that would have been a easy conversion to do. Although it seems more C:CSM than C:CD. I probably will do a version of it when I get back to my EC army.

I like the idea of veins, but I wouldn't sculpt them, they'd look better painted on in my opinion.

Yeah, the defiler below is too noticable for a daemon army.

Head update:

Well I'd say another half hour or so and this will be done. I still need to fatten up the lower lip, enlarge the nostrils, apply a slight bit of rhinoplasty, a little general sanding and done.























Remaining decisions:

1. what to do about the tongue: in, sticking out, long or normal?
2. sculpted eyebrows or painted?
3. full lip or thin lips.
4. here's the current idea for the horns.







So, opinions, etc?


More to come!

Not too sure about the horns...

That head is hideous (in a good way) .

I'd say give her a really long tongue so that it looks like she might be able to lick herself in... places, maybe have it with a row of studs all the way down or something. Those horns look cool. For lips, whichever is easiest really - the sculpt looks great, and if I were you I'd be worried about lips messing it up. As for the eyebrows, I think painting them on would probably be the best idea.

I think the horns should not be so "straight" out , it would definitly look much better if they where bended back a bit ...

Gameandwatch:

" The Cadian gaurdsman had been holding the garrison now for 3 days, with no end to the battle in sight. That is practically normality on Cadia; being the first bastion outside the great eye has its downsides. But, at the dawn of the next day something hit us we had never seen before. A faint ethereal 'sigh' that could be heard by all proceeded what many of my fellow gaurdsman thought to be angels, angels coming to save us once and for all. But these were no angels... The deception had worked, half of the front line was whipped out by lightning fast talons before we even knew what was happening. Our commisar executed a fleeing coward nearby to rally us for a counter attack, but then, just as we had rallied and began our assault, a monstrous form flashed into view. Through the smoke all we could see was some sort of enemy walker, but what we heard... It sounded like a pregnant woman being ripped apart by her unborn, and enjoying it at the same time! Horrified by what we had heard, half the platoon was annihilated in an instant by what I can only describe as a contraction from the horrid mechanation, and then it came into view. My emporer, we can't fight this..." Last words written by the coward traitor Valerez before summary execution by his commanding commisar.

I'm soooo, stealing this for my army fluff. Thank you kind sir!

Mellon:

I don't know what to say to all that, but some small dark voice in my mind seems to like where your going. How about a nice painful looking chastity belt as a compromise?

Tinfoil:

Since it's a Grinder, it seems to me the thing needs to convey the idea of a maw cannon -- something I thought your original design concept got across really effectively. (I'm thinking here of the drawing depitcting the creature cradling her belly; that belly protruding a stubby, mechanical-looking aperture that suggested either a cannon barrel or a door-lock or a weird portal of some kind.)

I have to agree with you the original idea was simple and to the point.

Sol Invictus:

See that what broke the concept for me. Having mad that linkage in my mind it was always going to be her taking a dump. Not the image I'm going for at all.

Sidstyler:

Oh, I plan to keep the veining very subtle if I sculpt them at all. Painting them on seems the way to go.

Tim the Biovore:

Yeah, but I still want one. It's a great concept. I might just order a defiler to make one. I bet it would do well as a coversion kit with Slaaneshi armies...hmmm...

CadianXV:

I'm not really in love with them either. What would you do instead? Maybe a crown like in my Avatar?

get to the chopper!

Best screen name ever! But shouldn't be "get to the choppa!"? A studded tounge, hmmm...we'll see about that.

gretar:

I agree with you but when I pushed them back the looked like dinner rolls stuck to the sides of her head.

Nice, are there any particuler Matierials and techniques that are good? have done somthing along these lines but not this advanced......

Her lower jaw might be jutting out a bit, but you totally nailed the facial expression dude.
I am really impressed with your work here!

I think leaving the lower jaw is fine. The transition from lower lip to jaw seems a touch off. If you go the tongue route, I'd make it forked, leave one side of the mouth and maybe curve around the cheekbone and around the eyebrow.

If you do create the 'spawning pipe' soulgrinder, perhaps consider counting it as a Slaaneshi version of Ku'gath! Instead of nurglings, it spawn sick and perverted utherworldly horrors! Awesome.