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Zoeys are Ld10, so he must be really unlucky to keep failing psychic tests. Its their BS of 3 that makes them miss usually :(

Hive Guard are v. good at opening Rhinos/Razors/Trukks/Raiders etc to for the other gribblies get at the juicy contents!

Well, Thing 2 and I formed our painting "battle plan" this morning. In the following order...

- 2 brood lords
- 3 hive guard
- carnifex
- trygon prime

Any suggestions as to how best equip the carnifex??

And yes, he's been very unlucky with his rolls. I have to get him some really lousy dice for his psychic tests.

Are you using it as a gun platform to menace people while on the move or as a close combat juggernaut of pain?

Knowing the munchkin', the juggernaut of pain sounds more his style.

Yakface has a Carnifex tactica.

I think this might help with deciding how best to arm it and use it.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/yakface%27s_Tactica_Carnifex

Thats for 4th ed.

Back in the glory days when Carnifexes were awesome.

Well guys, the Trygon is done! I've got the basing grit drying as I type. I'll wash the base tomorrow morning and add the grass & other foliage tomorrow evening. So I should have a pic then. Turned out pretty nice for a reconstituted used model (though the original paint job wasn't bad to begin with).

I'm going to need an addition just to store all these painted models! Oh for the days when everything was nice, tidy little infantry that fit neatly into little storage boxes that slid under the bed.


So... does anyone have suggestions for a 5th edition carnifex? I do have a tervigon conversion kit, but then I'd have to paint a zillion gaunts which I'm just not up to at the moment. I can tackle that project later. Are fex's best run in groups or can one be useful? Should it be shooty or assaulty? While my young'un is kind of an assaulty kid, he's actually pretty flexible and wouldn't be adverse to a shooty monster if that was the best configuration.

Thoughts??

Nice one Gits!
pics please still shocked you can even manage to look at a mini yet, let alone paint!
thankfully my armies arent so big, so a couple of shelves above my desk and its all good, i dread to think how much space 6 (at least right?) armies take up...

Yeah... 6. *sigh*

Doom Eagles
Mantis Warriors (Badab War)
Craftworld Eldar
Bad Moon Orks
Necrons
Tyranids

and eventually...

Mantis Warriors (post-crusade)


Pic's tomorrow when it's finished. If I show you tonight it'll just spoinl the debut of the finished figure. It's not fancy save for a little bit of airbrushing on the big talons... just a nice tabletop standard for a young boy to play with and enjoy.

Gitsplitta wrote:Yeah... 6. *sigh*

Doom Eagles
Mantis Warriors (Badab War)
Craftworld Eldar
Bad Moon Orks
Necrons
Tyranids

and eventually...

Mantis Warriors (post-crusade)


Pic's tomorrow when it's finished. If I show you tonight it'll just spoinl the debut of the finished figure. It's not fancy save for a little bit of airbrushing on the big talons... just a nice tabletop standard for a young boy to play with and enjoy.

quite the collection! and it does seem that between the 3 of you, you've managed to cover pretty much the whole spectrum of 40k
really looking forward to the post-crusade MW's, willing to wait for it though (just ) until you get your steam back. Must be nice to not have to look at SM's?
i can wait till 2moro, ill be waiting with baited breath and dont put urself down!ive seen how your painting has progressed remember so i know the high standard you are at now
(also, loving 'spoinl' )

Well, too much coffee last night so I spent a good portion of it sleepless. What better thing to do then advance the trygon project by a day??

So, here 'tis... hope you like it!

Wow, I really like that model. You and thing 2 did a great job.The colour scheme of the claws seem to harken back to the days of very first carnifex and their colours

Plus I like the "rattlesnake" like tail & those menacing beady yellow eyes..... I wouldnt want to meet that in a dark alley, or anywhere to be honest. I pity the poor non-nid that runs into that!!

Looks awesome. Love the blending on the scything talons.

Also, for the Carnifex, I find two sets of devourers with brainleech worms to be really effective, otherwise the carnie is really just an inferior Trygon.

But with the 12 S6 shots, the carnie can be a real beast!

Very nice Gits and Thing 2, loos great!

Agree with Gutrip, the dual tl brainleech devourers can do well, best run in pairs i find but will do fairly well on its own.

If hes against that then simply a base carnifex with adrenal glands (for furious charge) and frag spines (for assault grenades, a must on a fighty fex). 5 S10 attacks on the charge, at I4, rerolling hits. Fairly cheap as well. Will not go well if he gets charged though, as then will only be I1.

Perhaps proxy for a game or two to see which he prefers? Or leave the arms pinned/magnetised.

Nice one! great looking Trygon!
really like the claws, and the eyes..*shudders*...they are creepy

I got the ideas for the eyes from actual snakes. I forget which species has the yellow iris with the + sign pupils, but I thought it was appropriately alien looking.

I like the idea of the proxy to see what he prefers. It's also possible I could magnetize & pin some options... guess I'll have to take a close look at the figure and see how it's put together.

Nice bug! How does it feel to paint without all the pressure?

Was that an airbrush or blending on the red claws and tail?

IceAngel wrote:Nice bug! How does it feel to paint without all the pressure?

Oh Ice you have no idea... well, I suppose you do! It's wonderful. And I'm really more productive now because the joy is back in the painting rather than doggedly having to paint one thing after the other. My next project (which I'll start tonight) is a Mantis Warrior believe it or not. Then some ork stuff for Arakasi, start one of my GMS builds & then go back to the next round of things for the boys! I'm just lovin' it!

Foxtale wrote:Was that an airbrush or blending on the red claws and tail?

Yes, makes things very, very easy.

Gitsplitta wrote: So... does anyone have suggestions for a 5th edition carnifex? I do have a tervigon conversion kit, but then I'd have to paint a zillion gaunts which I'm just not up to at the moment. I can tackle that project later. Are fex's best run in groups or can one be useful? Should it be shooty or assaulty? While my young'un is kind of an assaulty kid, he's actually pretty flexible and wouldn't be adverse to a shooty monster if that was the best configuration.

Thoughts??

carnifex in myectic spoor with 2 sets of scything talons, bioplasma and adrenal glands. altogether costs about 230 points. but has 5 attacks on the charge that reroll misses, at strenth 10 and I 4 as the it has the "living battering ram"rule and furios charge. that and used with a myetic spoor deepstrikes it into the middle of the enemy force, best used as a big distraction for the enemy as the rest of the swarm advances.
oh and bioplasma gives it a 12" strenth 7 ap2 small blast shot to weaken anytroops when it arrives.
it cant be ignored and its a pain in the arss to kill, if you place it stagically. hope this helps.

Gitsplitta wrote:
Yes, makes things very, very easy.

It looks flawless. I gotta get me one of those.

I would try shooty carnifexes. Take a brood of 2 carnifexes with 1 pair of Scything Talons and Heavy Venom Cannon. The small blast template str 9, ap 4 can do some damage to anything it lands on. If you give them a hive tyrant to follow behind, you've got potentially a 3rd blast coming in, and giving them Synapse is not too shabby considering they've got a leadership of 7. So A small brood of fexes and a tyrant with Scything Talons and Heavy Venom Cannons is 565 points. Thats 3 small blasts at str 9 ap 4 assault 1. So you're already doubling out most armies, Turn them to a vehicle and they're still not bad (thought you're getting a minus 1 on the vehicle damage chart, so the best you can do is wrecked).

If you want, thing 2 can take a tyrant guard with a lashhip. Taking the guard will give the hive tyrant a cover save if you stick the guard in cover. OR you could just have the Carnifexes walk a little in front of the tyrant to give him cover.

I've never found the cc fex to be nothing more than a giant point sink, considering it is a giant walking mass of wounds.

I ripped apart my 3 fexes and made them green-stuff tails.

Trygons are the better choice 95% of the time. That 5% mostly includes 2500+ point games.

That looks great! I love the eyes and talons. On the carapace, have you thought of doing the little flecks of colour along the edges of each plate, I know it's quite fiddley but it does make the carapace look ten times better...

Gitsplitta wrote:Well, too much coffee last night so I spent a good portion of it sleepless. What better thing to do then advance the trygon project by a day??

So, here 'tis... hope you like it!

Very nice. Liking the snake style eyes!

Imperial Monkey wrote:That looks great! I love the eyes and talons. On the carapace, have you thought of doing the little flecks of colour along the edges of each plate, I know it's quite fiddley but it does make the carapace look ten times better...

I'm not sure I know what you mean. Can you link me to an example (or post it would be fine). I did think about edge highlighting the plates, it's just a lot of work and something that I can come back to later. I even thought about using my air brush to highlight the plate edges... again, a lot of work involved there. Not saying I won't do it... just not something I wanted to take on immediately. BUT... I'm always open to suggestion, so please clarify what you mean and I'll consider it.

Regnak wrote:Very nice. Liking the snake style eyes!

Thanks Regnak!

Gitsplitta wrote:

Imperial Monkey wrote:That looks great! I love the eyes and talons. On the carapace, have you thought of doing the little flecks of colour along the edges of each plate, I know it's quite fiddley but it does make the carapace look ten times better...

I'm not sure I know what you mean. Can you link me to an example (or post it would be fine). I did think about edge highlighting the plates, it's just a lot of work and something that I can come back to later. I even thought about using my air brush to highlight the plate edges... again, a lot of work involved there. Not saying I won't do it... just not something I wanted to take on immediately. BUT... I'm always open to suggestion, so please clarify what you mean and I'll consider it.

Regnak wrote:Very nice. Liking the snake style eyes!

Thanks Regnak!

I guess he's talking about the lighter colour effects on edges of plates? Like the edges on the GW pic:

Uugh.

Yeah, I can look at that for a future upgrade. I do like the looks of it, just daunted by the time it'll take.

That's a very nice Trygon you've got there. I particularly like the eyes.

Thanks samwellfrm, I feel a bit guilty about not detailing him more but at this stage I want to keep them simple so that A) the painting goes quickly so my 7-year old gets more painted models on the table and B) so that I don't cover up all of HIS work on the figures with my extras.

Once we get his models (or most of them) painted up to this basic standard, we can come back together and decide how to detail them... but there won't be a big time pressure then as they'll all be painted, it'll just be a matter of how fancy we want them to look.