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That's a really unfortunate skirt on the Shivver, and the painted on tiger stripes don't really help.

I think if you ditch the veil and clean up the folds downstairs, it's going to be a nice looking model.

I like the Chemyst - simple design effectively executed.

Chemyst is cool.

Don’t like the Shivver. Not up on the lore there, but not a fan of the look.

Removed - rule #1

I’m digging the new models, not sure about the paintjobs, but that’s an issue I have with most FW Necromunda models.

Jes Goodwin's original Escher are still the best.

JSG wrote:
Jes Goodwin's original Escher are still the best.

Probably some of his finest work as a sculptor. I think the new Eschers do a pretty good job of capturing the same feel though.

Not bad.

It would be great to get some of these, instead of just looking at them as pretty pictures.

Dropped around $200.00 on some trucks, then there was the Heresy stuff that sucking my soul.

My little guys live in the truck, and I'm working on a towed excavation platform with a crane and digging rig. Their home base is a cave system with IG crates and a fort with the shipping containers.

For a modeling tip- the spray foam in a can does wonders!

Ooooh. Interesting.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/05/the-great-rift-hits-necromunda-and-stokes-the-flames-of-rebellion-in-a-new-narrative-expansion/

Proper “this is happening” narrative campaign.

I’m a bit conflicted. Necromunda has always been a “your dudes” game and I’m dubious about a ”controlled” campaign. Still, the article does reference new Escher vehicles, so there’s that

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Ooooh. Interesting.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/05/the-great-rift-hits-necromunda-and-stokes-the-flames-of-rebellion-in-a-new-narrative-expansion/

Proper “this is happening” narrative campaign.

Looking forward to the new stuff. Less so the implications to the lore; I kind of like that Necromunda as a setting tends to be its own thing and generally just cheerfully ignore events in the wider 40k world.

Something something campaign book, whatever, but...



...why aren't we getting figurines of fancy females favoring fashionable fur hats?

It's just neat. It's also the Vostroyan situation all over again. You'd think there was a market for elaborately dressed people in 40k or its side games. But no, not a single similar plastic kit in sight. Shame.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Ooooh. Interesting.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/05/the-great-rift-hits-necromunda-and-stokes-the-flames-of-rebellion-in-a-new-narrative-expansion/

Proper “this is happening” narrative campaign.

Looking forward to the new stuff. Less so the implications to the lore; I kind of like that Necromunda as a setting tends to be its own thing and generally just cheerfully ignore events in the wider 40k world.

It can be both

Like 40K campaign books, they’re more a Serving Suggestion. If it keeps content coming and the game on the shelves, I’m happy enough.

Hopefully we do, I think the Vostroyans are some of my favourite miniatures that GW have ever produced.

It's interesting certainly, I like the idea of the narrative campaign. I agree that part of the interest of Necromunda is that it is outside the bounds of 40k. This allows for all of the whackier tech that's abound and the great aesthetics. Although it is technically part of 40k, I see it really as a separate thing.

Time will tell what this will bring, but I'm certainly interested in how the Escher vehicles will look.

This expansion is the first chapter in The Aranthian Succession, a planet-spanning story that will change the face of Necromunda forever – assuming it survives…

Am I the only one who did a double-take at this? Not saying they're ending Necromunda, but if they were, I feel that's exactly how GW would have done it ...

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Ooooh. Interesting.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/05/the-great-rift-hits-necromunda-and-stokes-the-flames-of-rebellion-in-a-new-narrative-expansion/

Proper “this is happening” narrative campaign.

Looking forward to the new stuff. Less so the implications to the lore; I kind of like that Necromunda as a setting tends to be its own thing and generally just cheerfully ignore events in the wider 40k world.

It can be both

Like 40K campaign books, they’re more a Serving Suggestion. If it keeps content coming and the game on the shelves, I’m happy enough.

Absolutely; I've no problem with more content. I just think with 'Munda I'd have a preference for the setting to be broadened (Ash Wastes is a great example; they've previously mentioned the Eye of Selene and some of the other 'lost' Hives, nevermind whatever the Delaque have buried in their weird little Eldritch murk) rather than a continuous need to nudge the narrative 'forward' or dramatically 'change the face of Necromunda forever' as that article suggests (appreciate this is likely just their usual WH:Comms spiel rather than us getting another Cadia situation).

I’m in two minds on the advancing narrative.

On one hand, it might help the overall setting, and to chart the possible transfer of power on a Hive World seems pretty interesting.

On the other hand? Proof is in the pudding. If the new background is poor, it could harm the game’s reputation.

I see potential in building some formal stories into the campaigns themselves. One issue GW has always had is that not everyone actually reads outside of the codex+rulebook. Broadly speaking a lot of gamers never touch Black Library.

Plus the story for the game will be optional; at its core you'll still have the same kind of missions and objectives and structures that you can put into your own campaigns and missions. Same as how narrative campaign books for 40K and AoS are basically a series of themed missions and objectives that you can easily adapt outside of those settings.

Really weird choice.

A) it seems really irrelevant to Ash Wastes. You know, the new expansion of the game that they... just started. Yeah sure, gangs A and B get some tonka trucks in the new book, but that was a given anyway.

B) it seems utterly detached from what Necromunda is all about- scum & criminals fighting in the Underhive. Not high level spire politics. Why in the world would it matter which NPC rules the planet?

Voss wrote:
Really weird choice.

A) it seems really irrelevant to Ash Wastes. You know, the new expansion of the game that they... just started. Yeah sure, gangs A and B get some tonka trucks in the new book, but that was a given anyway.

B) it seems utterly detached from what Necromunda is all about- scum & criminals fighting in the Underhive. Not high level spire politics. Why in the world would it matter which NPC rules the planet?

I think the relevance is that the Ash Waste Nomads are the descendants of the pre-Imperial ruling class of Necromunda, and have been running an insurgency in the ten millenia since.

I'm guessing they will see this as an opportunity to rise up (hence Aranthian Succession- the world was known as Araneus Prime before compliance). Having Ash Waste Nomads attacking en masse is both relevant to the Ash wastes and those poor buggers living and fighting out there.

Oh, and the gangs are the proxy forces of the Houses, who are all affiliated with Noble Houses that will be leveraging the Houses to improve their own positions in the Succession. So increased House-sponsored gang activity and outright gang wars is a given.

I don't think Gerontius Helmawr had a clearly established line of succession, so all the self-declared heirs are coming out of the woodwork claiming the throne. This may even put the throne of House Helmawr in jeopardy. Maybe one of the other noble houses sees its chance to take control and become the new ruling house. Clan Houses could see an opportunity to rise to become a noble house. Anyone that helps an heir or a new house take the throne could expect rich rewards.

Even for small time gangs, the effects can ripple out in the form of new contracts and jobs as the houses try to better their position. All the various rebellious elements on Necromunda can also see their chance as the authorities are distracted.

I hope there is some outcome other than "Gerontius Helmawr wakes up from his medical stasis coma all healed. Status quo restored"

I think it's a nice contrast to have some of the noble houses in the spotlight. The lower gangs are scum and criminals, true, but who are the real villains?

 Olthannon wrote:
I think it's a nice contrast to have some of the noble houses in the spotlight. The lower gangs are scum and criminals, true, but who are the real villains?

Everyone?
It's not really a setting that needs 'real villains'

Iracundus wrote:
I don't think Gerontius Helmawr had a clearly established line of succession, so all the self-declared heirs are coming out of the woodwork claiming the throne. This may even put the throne of House Helmawr in jeopardy. Maybe one of the other noble houses sees its chance to take control and become the new ruling house. Clan Houses could see an opportunity to rise to become a noble house. Anyone that helps an heir or a new house take the throne could expect rich rewards.

Even for small time gangs, the effects can ripple out in the form of new contracts and jobs as the houses try to better their position. All the various rebellious elements on Necromunda can also see their chance as the authorities are distracted.

I hope there is some outcome other than "Gerontius Helmawr wakes up from his medical stasis coma all healed. Status quo restored"

There’s even the chance for a Clan House to climb the ladder to Noble House. Which could be interesting.

Iracundus wrote:
I hope there is some outcome other than "Gerontius Helmawr wakes up from his medical stasis coma all healed. Status quo restored"

The whole thing is a ruse to get his enemies to show their hand. It'll end with a Godfatheresque montage of the would be usurpers being dealt with.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Iracundus wrote:
I don't think Gerontius Helmawr had a clearly established line of succession, so all the self-declared heirs are coming out of the woodwork claiming the throne. This may even put the throne of House Helmawr in jeopardy. Maybe one of the other noble houses sees its chance to take control and become the new ruling house. Clan Houses could see an opportunity to rise to become a noble house. Anyone that helps an heir or a new house take the throne could expect rich rewards.

Even for small time gangs, the effects can ripple out in the form of new contracts and jobs as the houses try to better their position. All the various rebellious elements on Necromunda can also see their chance as the authorities are distracted.

I hope there is some outcome other than "Gerontius Helmawr wakes up from his medical stasis coma all healed. Status quo restored"

There’s even the chance for a Clan House to climb the ladder to Noble House. Which could be interesting.

I doubt that would happen because it might invalidate gangs for players, but at least in terms of background, there is the potential. After all, the noble houses themselves are of varying ages, with for example House Ty with its creepy Japanese masks is said in House of Shadow to be one of the youngest noble houses and looked down upon as "new nobility" by older houses like the Ulanti. That must mean they must have come from somewhere else.


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JSG wrote:

Iracundus wrote:
I hope there is some outcome other than "Gerontius Helmawr wakes up from his medical stasis coma all healed. Status quo restored"

The whole thing is a ruse to get his enemies to show their hand. It'll end with a Godfatheresque montage of the would be usurpers being dealt with.

We already had that with Vect in Commorragh. I'd rather not have a recycled plot.

If Gerontius has to survive, I'd rather he come back a shattered wreck and effectively a puppet of whoever the winner of the succession struggle is.

They can't do "House Goliath Again... now with Vehicles!", so are trying something different, and putting in the new rules via campaign supplements.

I don't have a problem with that. Makes for something new, rather than going over the same ground again. Again.

Iracundus wrote:
I hope there is some outcome other than "Gerontius Helmawr wakes up from his medical stasis coma all healed. Status quo restored"

The final book in the series starts with him walking out of the shower and saying he had the strangest dream.

Would be interesting if he "survived" as a servitor or servo skull.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They can't do "House Goliath Again... now with Vehicles!", so are trying something different, and putting in the new rules via campaign supplements.

I don't have a problem with that. Makes for something new, rather than going over the same ground again. Again.

Iracundus wrote:
I hope there is some outcome other than "Gerontius Helmawr wakes up from his medical stasis coma all healed. Status quo restored"

The final book in the series starts with him walking out of the shower and saying he had the strangest dream.

Walking out the shower as Suzzlebutt’s leg?

 Haighus wrote:
Would be interesting if he "survived" as a servitor or servo skull.

Or as a Helmawr Jar. Because that worked out so well for House Mung…

Voss wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
I think it's a nice contrast to have some of the noble houses in the spotlight. The lower gangs are scum and criminals, true, but who are the real villains?

Everyone?
It's not really a setting that needs 'real villains'

Incorrect Voss, it is always them rich basstahds up in the roof.