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I don't like them at all. Not only can you not prop them up and use the lip of the lid, but it seems like they're caking even more than the old style pots! I've got this permanent layer of paint around the bottom lip, that just refuses to dry (something about trapped air, I think).

I wish they would've stuck with the old ones. They were much more elegant, and they had more functional use. I'm mad because I'm getting a mega paint set filled with these pieces of crap

Alright, here's my opinion, but keep in mind I got into the hobby recently (relatively speaking), so this is only from my experience:

I like the "bolter-shell" pots. From what I understand, these are the new ones that everyone seems to hate. The tapered "cone-like" pots (aka the "old" ones I guess), tend to get a bunch of paint on the seal between the lid and pot, so when I'm trying to thumb it open, I always get paint on my fingers, which annoys me a lot (especially since the paint is about room temperature, so I don't always feel it, and I get paint-prints on my models). I've also had several of the tapered pots "leak" paint out the back of the lid-hinge while it was open, causing me to both lose a lot of paint, and get a bunch of paint on my hand when I tried to lift the pot.

I also like the inner-rim to the new pots, since it's black and smooth, I can use it to remove excess paint in preparation for drybrushing.

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents. I apologize if I've got these backwards.

I honestly can't tell the difference, it's all just paint in a container to me

They all taste the same to me.

Xca|iber wrote:Alright, here's my opinion, but keep in mind I got into the hobby recently (relatively speaking), so this is only from my experience:

I like the "bolter-shell" pots. From what I understand, these are the new ones that everyone seems to hate. The tapered "cone-like" pots (aka the "old" ones I guess), tend to get a bunch of paint on the seal between the lid and pot, so when I'm trying to thumb it open, I always get paint on my fingers, which annoys me a lot (especially since the paint is about room temperature, so I don't always feel it, and I get paint-prints on my models). I've also had several of the tapered pots "leak" paint out the back of the lid-hinge while it was open, causing me to both lose a lot of paint, and get a bunch of paint on my hand when I tried to lift the pot.

I also like the inner-rim to the new pots, since it's black and smooth, I can use it to remove excess paint in preparation for drybrushing.

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents. I apologize if I've got these backwards.

It sounds like you have them mixed up; these are the out-going style (Mk IV, from what I can tell):

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=&pIndex=2&aId=2500005a&multiPageMode=true&start=3

And these are the latest style (Mk IV?):

http://bayhammer.blogspot.com/2010/06/new-citadel-paint-pots-confirmed.html

Me personally? It doesn't make a whole lot of difference to me. The only real problem I have with the new pots is that the lids don't "lock" open, so re-loading my brush often becomes a 2-handed operation unless I transfer paint to a pallet.

I like being able to see the color through the top of the lid. So I have no quarrel with the new design.

Ruckdog wrote:The only real problem I have with the new pots is that the lids don't "lock" open, so re-loading my brush often becomes a 2-handed operation unless I transfer paint to a pallet.

GW already thought of that problem and found you a solution.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Ruckdog wrote:The only real problem I have with the new pots is that the lids don't "lock" open, so re-loading my brush often becomes a 2-handed operation unless I transfer paint to a pallet.

GW already thought of that problem and found you a solution.

And for only $5! Why would you even consider anything cheaper?

In all honesty though, these pots are a lot more meh. I like the "current" standard pots, and will be loathe to see them go.

However, these new pots aren't bad, just... meh.

Conspiracy with this design, dries out the paint too quickly, therefore forcing us to buy more paint, that much quicker. Sorry for wasting anyone's time with my drivel.

I hate the new ones. They look like paint pots 4 five year olds.

I hate the new paint pots because the paint dries around the edges which makes it quite annoying. But you can see the paint through the lid which is good. They are alright. I guess.
I wonder what the next paint pot will look like?

Why use GW paint when you could go Vallejo?

I'd consider it.

What are the benefits of Vallejo?

Much wider colour selection, much better bottles (eyedropper for the win!), they almost never dry inside the bottle, and volume to volume, they're much cheaper.

The only advantages GW paint ever used to have on Vallejo is that you don't have to shake GW bottles (minor inconvenience at best) and that their metallics used to be better (but with the release of Vallejo Air, the opposite is now true).

Eye dropper style bottles.

Eye dropper style bottles are the one, true path towards painting enlightenment. Do not be misled by the temptation to use paint pots, for that road leads only to ruin. The ruin of painting directly from the pot, the ruin of not mixing your own colors, and the ruin of not thinning your paints.

Convert and be saved, brothers and sisters! Convert and be saved!

solkan wrote:Eye dropper style bottles.

Eye dropper style bottles are the one, true path towards painting enlightenment. Do not be misled by the temptation to use paint pots, for that road leads only to ruin. The ruin of painting directly from the pot, the ruin of not mixing your own colors, and the ruin of not thinning your paints.

Convert and be saved, brothers and sisters! Convert and be saved!

And if you don't convert, we'll blow you the feth up!

My main problems with swapping paints now Is I'm concerned I'd not be able to match the base colours I use closely enough for my liking. Won't be an issue when I move on to my self-promised IG army but for my marines it's a concern.

That being said I'm not sure there is a perfect paint pot. The new ones don't lock open, the old ones caked up, the ones before that (twist top) always seamed to caked the lids so firm that I couldn't get them off, the ones before that the hinge on the lid used to fatigue off after a while.

I have to agree that the new paint pots tend to dry out faster. I have some of the Citadel paints from the 90s still ready to go, in fact I have more than 10 of them that are still sealed and the paint is not caked up inside!

Right now I'm transferring all my current GW paints to eye-dropper bottles until I can finally switch everything out to Vallejo. I do like GW paints but their tendency now to dry out quickly, along with the hassle of the pot design is leading me elsewhere.

You use....NON-GAMES-WORKSHOP PAINTS!?!?


HERESY!!!


The only non-Games-Workshop paints I use are the spray paints for undercoating models, and even that might change some day...

I got my first of the newest-style paint pots a couple weeks ago. It's the white translucent plastic ones that GW initially used for the Foundation paints and washes, I believe.

Overall, not impressed. The first time I used it the seal for the lid (the lid that is used to fill the pot, presumably, not the little lid you open to use it) seems to have popped a bit, so I'm worried about orange paint spilling all over the place. The plastic for the little lid seems to be such that they don't stay open well at all, which makes things a bit fiddly.

As the local hobby shop is pretty much done carrying GW paints anyway, and I haven't been in the mood for Dream Wizards in forever, I may switch to Vallejo paints because I can jsut order them from The War Store or other vendors and save a trip downtown I don't seem to have time for these days.

I dont really care for the new style. Paint has a bad habit of pooling around the hinge area and squirting out when i close the pot. My kitchen table does have some nice new colors now though.

What I find amusing is that the 'new' style paint pots look exactly like the very old paint pots that we had in the early 90s... Only they are half the size and 5 times the price.

I can't really complain about paint pots today (Other than the depressingly mean amount of paint they give you)... Nothing can compare to the MKIII citidel paint pots, with a skrew top lid, which were impossible to close. I think anyone who remembers those will (like me) be giving a big thumbs up to anything that is not them.

Regarding Vallego... I have actually had some trouble with stripping Vallejo Air, which might be worth mentioning. It just turned into a very sticky tar-like substance which could not be brushed off. I did eventually discover that brushing with white spirit would remove most of it, but it had me quite worried.

EDIT:

I found this interesting web page with pictures of all the old pots:

http://www.stephane.info/show.php?code=citadel_paint

Like SmackCakes I can't really see too much differance from the really old or the new ones.

They are all too bloody difficult for me to get into with my femininely soft hands and require the use of my teeth to open up. I feel that I have been able to taste very little except GW paint since the late 1980's.

As for Vallejo I have found that their paints seperate a little too easily (minor inconveinience) but then you will get the clear liquid suspension first out of the dropper even after a shake. They do of course sell their paint droppers seperately so am thinking of getting a few dozen and transfering my GW paint despite my perceived problems with them.

Store the Vallejo bottles upside down. This solves the seperation problem where you get the suspension first.

I do prefer Vallejo as well, but I buy my paints from my FLGS and sometimes I have to get a color that is not available at that time in Vallejo. The main concern I always have with GW lids is that they dry WAY too fast on the inside. So Sometimes I will either out a lil layer of water on top if I know I wotn be using a color or put a drop of drying retardant on top this helps me a ton!

Edit: Also it does annoy me as well how they won't stay open to a desired position. Not the end of the world but hey come on lets get these things right for once

Also, the Vallejo Game Colors match up with Citadel paint colors. Really nice when you want to switch over. I do highly recommend making yourself a cheap wet palette to use for them, though.

The hexagonal flip-lids seem to allow paint to dry out far more rapidly than any of the others.

The original (pre-screwlid) are by far the best.

After running out of a couple of colors & washes and not wanting to drive across town I broke down and bought some of the new pots. My thoughts:

Pros:
GW is the closest store to my house.


Cons:
Lids won't fully open
Pots won't balance upside down (storing pots upside down is a habit I can't seem to kick)

I don't have much of a drying out problem, but I add water to my paints every time I open a pot, and then again once every few months for the colors I don't use that often. While people go on about the price, I'm just beyond caring at this point. I've spent enough cash on this hobby to drop a five on anything and just not care. Once paint hits the $5 mark I might change my mind (but probably won't).
In the end GW paint is what it is. I use it as well as Reaper and P3 as my main batch of paints. I don't think I'm at the level where I can honestly care or have an enlightened opinion about how there is one brand of paint (or style of container) to rule them all.

I like 'em just fine - the tops don't seem to break off like the old, old style pots, they don't get paint in the threads and dry so I can't properly open or close them like the "bolter shell" pots, and the clear tops are very nice and means I don't have to paint circles on the top of all my pots.

I do think a pallette is a critical thing to have while painting. Dipping a portion of paint onto it allows you to mix it easily with water for a better consistency and keeps your paint from drying out in the pot. You don't need the GW one though - a simple white 4" tile will do dandy.

Hmmmm, I have the mega paint set and so far the paint pots seem to be fine... hope that holds up.

I have no idea how I'd transfer them to eye droppers... seems to be more trouble than it's worth!

Also, the caps do lock open... you just have to push them far enough (at least the wash bottle I'm using now does).