Opinions on the 'new-style' paint pots?

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**Necros**

They're OK, but I preferred the previous kind, the black flip tops. I liked how it had that flat part inside the lid so you could dab paint onto it when there's too much on your brush or even do some light & quick mixing. The foundation paints at least had a little snappy thing in the hinge that would let the jar stay open so you could dab on the inside of the lid, but the new regular paints I've gotten so far don't stay open as well.

I like Vallejo's droppers the best, but vallejo seems more watery which is fine for regular painting and great for mixing colors, but I like to do a lot of drybrushing and it's a little harder to do when the paint is so runny.

**Redbeard**

Using paint in my airbrush, as well as with a brush, I like pots that can be unscrewed for easier pouring (and back into the paint pot). I also like pots with a flat top, so they can be stacked.

Medicine-dropper bottles fail in both regards for me. These new pots seem to seal okay, but you cannot stack them.

**Mad4Minis**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ruckdog wrote:The only real problem I have with the new pots is that the lids don't "lock" open, so re-loading my brush often becomes a 2-handed operation unless I transfer paint to a pallet.

GW already thought of that problem and found you a solution.

Clever engineering there. They make a pot design that forces you to use a palette, which retains some of you paint, thus causing you to use more paint...meaning you have to buy more paint sooner.

Gotta love GW, doing anything they can to sneak another $$ out of the customer.

**SmackCakes**

RiTides wrote:Also, the caps do lock open... you just have to push them far enough (at least the wash bottle I'm using now does).

I thought so too. I noticed on my foundation paints that the lids have a clever little contraption built into the hinge design that locks them open, though you have to open the lid further than I would normally open it to engage the lock. I only noticed it because it is the same contraption that closes the lid against your wishes, if you only open the lid as far as a normal person would normally open a lid.

But I wasn't sure if this was present on the new see though lid pots, as I don't have any of those yet.

**theHandofGork**

It's not.

**Dexterium**

Mad4Minis wrote:
Clever engineering there. They make a pot design that forces you to use a palette, which retains some of you paint, thus causing you to use more paint...meaning you have to buy more paint sooner.

Gotta love GW, doing anything they can to sneak another $$ out of the customer.

Give me a break, this is no conspiracy behind this to make you buy more paint. You should be using a palette to begin with, and if 5$ is too much for you, use something else, personally I just use the plastic that larger metal models come in (and a white sheet of paper underneath).

**Augustus**

Mad4Minis wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ruckdog wrote:The only real problem I have with the new pots is that the lids don't "lock" open, so re-loading my brush often becomes a 2-handed operation unless I transfer paint to a pallet.

GW already thought of that problem and found you a solution.

Clever engineering there. They make a pot design that forces you to use a palette, which retains some of you paint, thus causing you to use more paint...meaning you have to buy more paint sooner.

Gotta love GW, doing anything they can to sneak another $$ out of the customer.

Come on now painting off a palate was not invented by GW. Shenanigans I say!

I like the compression fit pots, I think they lst longer, they are like the oldest bottles from the 90s, threaded bottles get dried paintin there and then do not seal properly, compression fit caps are much better at that!

I like them!

My favorite part, the tops are CLEAR so the color can be seen through them when you have a bunch in a tray/box/whatever from the top, genius new never before seen feature! Woo!

**Ruckdog**

Dexterium wrote:
Mad4Minis wrote:
Clever engineering there. They make a pot design that forces you to use a palette, which retains some of you paint, thus causing you to use more paint...meaning you have to buy more paint sooner.

Gotta love GW, doing anything they can to sneak another $$ out of the customer.

Give me a break, this is no conspiracy behind this to make you buy more paint. You should be using a palette to begin with, and if 5$ is too much for you, use something else, personally I just use the plastic that larger metal models come in (and a white sheet of paper underneath).

That's just it...my usual philistine painting style (when using GW paints) involves taking paint directly out of the pot with a brush and putting it on the model. Yeah, I know I'm doing it "wrong," but it works for me, so meh.

**loranafaeriequeen**

as far as using a dropper to mix with i use one from a bottle of baby tylenol that i cleaned up. no need to mod the paint pots.

**AesSedai**

I remember when I first got into the hobby, the paints from the GW paint set were amazing. I still have a few, which are still usable 17 YEARS later!

When they switched to the various inferior pot designs that followed, I still bought them because I didn't have a choice. If you think GW isn't designing their pots with an eye toward maximizing profit (this means pots which allow paint to dry at an accelerated rate) you are being naieve. Conspiracy, hardly. It's so painfully obvious that even a child could see it.

I now use Vallejo. Never had a problem. As mentioned above with the release of vallejo air, vallejo's metallics are at least as good as GW's and in my opinion somewhat better. I picked up that tip thanks to Les Bursely and his awesome painting tutorials.

**sonofhan**

I like being able to see the color before I pick up the paint pot. so I aprove.

**Brother Heinrich**

loranafaeriequeen wrote:I like being able to see the color through the top of the lid. So I have no quarrel with the new design.

ditto, though I wish they had that tab that kept the lid open like the ink washes.

**agnosto**

Here's what I use. Endless colors and cheap, cheap, cheap.

**Saintspirit**

SmackCakes wrote:
RiTides wrote:Also, the caps do lock open... you just have to push them far enough (at least the wash bottle I'm using now does).

I thought so too. I noticed on my foundation paints that the lids have a clever little contraption built into the hinge design that locks them open, though you have to open the lid further than I would normally open it to engage the lock. I only noticed it because it is the same contraption that closes the lid against your wishes, if you only open the lid as far as a normal person would normally open a lid.

But I wasn't sure if this was present on the new see though lid pots, as I don't have any of those yet.

This is exactly why I don't ike the new ones. If the new were built like the wash and foundation pots, I would be completely fine. But now they refuse to stand open.

**Element206**

I agree Samus, its like GW tries to develop a paint pot that is most effective at waisting mass amounts of paint, so you have to run back to GW and buy another pot every month! The new style are complete BS. I have painted off/on since 1999 and with each new generation of containers, they progressively get worse and less efficient. God help you if you shake the paint right before you open it, then you have to deal with an accumulation of paint on the bottom of that palette inside the lid that is likely to unexpectedly leak out onto the backside of the jar. Of course this is only realized once you close the pot and your hand is covered in wet paint! I hate the new ones, to the point that if Vallejo was sold in my area, I would switch without question!

**Samus_aran115**

I wish they would've kept the old ones...But put transparent lids on them

So far, that's the only thing I like about them!

Also, the old black-lid ones leaked in all the right places (lol), as opposed to these, which leak out of the back (aka, the place you always touch). The old ones didn't leak...They just caked up, which was less embarrasing, and easier to remove.

Don't even get me started on the price hike...$3.75 is outrageous when you can buy like 5 bottles of hobby paint for the same price (and get x10 the amount of paint).

**MajorTom11**

I switches to Vallejo last year, won't be going back... Eye-dropper + Wet-Pallete FTW!

I do however still use GW washes in addition Vallejo inks, and use their foundation paints in many instances as a base coat, or other situations where I want to guarantee coverage on notoriously translucent colors like red and yellow.

The paint pots drive me nuts for the exact problems many mentioned, drying crust preventing good seal, dripping down the back etc. It didn't happen often, but when it did it usually sucked. A lot.

**spireland**

Not as good as the 10 year ago version, that held paint in great shape for 10+ years, but much better then the screw cap variety. Paint tops should not screw on!

**SagesStone**

Samus_aran115 wrote:Don't even get me started on the price hike...$3.75 is outrageous when you can buy like 5 bottles of hobby paint for the same price (and get x10 the amount of paint).

I wish they were only $3.75.

$6 here, with what I'm hearing about these new pots I think I'm going to switch over to Vallejo.

**jp400**

Yup. I was really not impressed with the new paint containers.

Looks like Vallejo for me!

Cheaper and better is the way to go.

**kenshin620**

Vallejo ftw

Only had a green out of 12 bottles dried out when it came to me (oh well) Everything else was perfect

**jdjamesdean@mail.com**

I absolutely despise how it doesnt stay open ... in fact I havnt painted a model since I ran out of the old style ...I tried got frustrated ...

**loranafaeriequeen**

The only reason I might switch is because there are a lot of colors I want that GW doesn't offer. I tend to gravitate towards a slightly girlier palette than most.

**Smitty0305**

Xca|iber wrote:Alright, here's my opinion, but keep in mind I got into the hobby recently (relatively speaking), so this is only from my experience:

I like the "bolter-shell" pots. From what I understand, these are the new ones that everyone seems to hate. The tapered "cone-like" pots (aka the "old" ones I guess), tend to get a bunch of paint on the seal between the lid and pot, so when I'm trying to thumb it open, I always get paint on my fingers, which annoys me a lot (especially since the paint is about room temperature, so I don't always feel it, and I get paint-prints on my models). I've also had several of the tapered pots "leak" paint out the back of the lid-hinge while it was open, causing me to both lose a lot of paint, and get a bunch of paint on my hand when I tried to lift the pot.

I also like the inner-rim to the new pots, since it's black and smooth, I can use it to remove excess paint in preparation for drybrushing.

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents. I apologize if I've got these backwards.

You mixed them up, the cone one is the new one.

I hate the new ones. They trap air, and they dont stay open to get paint easily.

**Earthbeard**

Don't like them as much as it's harder to stack them now, but other than that, they don't really go either way for me.

**filbert**

I don't have a massive problem with paints drying out apart from one or two particular colours; skull white and bleached bone being the two most prominent. They always seem to dry up quicker than the others. Funnily enough, it seems to be a historical thing too; I remember them being quick to dry up back in the days of the screw top too.

**Ratius**

The hinge on the lids is woeful, they dont open fully which makes it a two hand job to redip your brush every time.
Havent noticed any more wastage then the old pots in terms of paint drying/rimming but still not a good release imo.

**Phototoxin**

I agree with my fellow Irelander but the only good thing is the transparent lid

**Goliath**

Ratius wrote:The hinge on the lids is woeful, they dont open fully which makes it a two hand job to redip your brush every time.
Havent noticed any more wastage then the old pots in terms of paint drying/rimming but still not a good release imo.

The thing is, when they did have a clip that holds the lid open, people complained about the paint running off of the lid, so they removed the clip, and now people complain about not being able to open the lid...

**jetjetex**

i dont like the new ones,i like the last ones,i liked how they could stack up.